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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
121. No, you can have any opinion you want.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:52 PM
Aug 2012

As can we. Fair is fair, yes? But I do get a kick out of your fake umbrage.

du rec. nt xchrom Aug 2012 #1
... The co-ordinator of the WikiLeaks group in Stockholm, who is a close colleague of Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #2
You seem to be fixated on Assange for some reason. LAGC Aug 2012 #3
What 'whistle' did he blow? randome Aug 2012 #6
Those diplomatic cables were a very small part of the Wikileaks collection. LAGC Aug 2012 #12
And the 'collateral murder' video resulted in what? Who was damaged by it? randome Aug 2012 #48
Rove's involved 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #201
Lol, there you go again. He blew the whistle on the Iceland Bank leading to the arrest sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #97
There have been many, many revelations, and the diplomatic cables were only one of many releases. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #171
I am grown too weary of the endless dishonest shit Assange supporters spew, because struggle4progress Aug 2012 #15
The Swedes have already proven themselves an unfair partner in the allegations and charges riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #20
SAYS FUCKING YOU. you don't decide how the fucking rest of us get to see this. xchrom Aug 2012 #30
Assange didn't make any money - that's all been taken away from him. truedelphi Aug 2012 #33
So long as KKKarl Rove has ANY part in this, that's enough for me. BlueMTexpat Aug 2012 #49
There's not the slightest evidence Rove has anything to do with this matter struggle4progress Aug 2012 #53
These are the words of a man who has nothing to do with the matter? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #100
All claims reduce to Rove advising a candidate for the September 2010 election, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #101
Ahh.. those shifting goal posts. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #108
The Naomi Wolf article points to a Rove-role in the case against Assange. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #69
Hallucinating events, then asking if the hallucinations can be disproved, is not a reliable method struggle4progress Aug 2012 #94
Um, that is not the only Rove connection in Sweden btw. Wikileaks was promising to reveal sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #111
I am astounded at this really zeemike Aug 2012 #72
Why should we suspect these unpleasant things about dear! precious! Julian? Hmmm struggle4progress Aug 2012 #98
Do you know any of these things to be true yourself? zeemike Aug 2012 #139
When in doubt, see what conclusions are supported by multiple independent lines of evidence struggle4progress Aug 2012 #196
You mean like the conclusions of WMDs in Iraq? zeemike Aug 2012 #206
As noted elsewhere, the Ecuadorians offered to hifiguy Aug 2012 #75
The Swedish authorities prevailed in the UK courts on the warrant. Ecuador was no party to that suit struggle4progress Aug 2012 #87
And the UK courts were wrong. It happens, it certainly has happened in British courts sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #129
Here's the problem with your theory jeff47 Aug 2012 #125
There's a secret grand jury empaneled already on Assange riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #151
You don't have to cut-n-paste the same reply to all of my posts jeff47 Aug 2012 #160
Would be nice if you actually READ any of the replies then so nobody had to spam a thread riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #165
The grand jury is irrelevant. jeff47 Aug 2012 #177
It doesn't matter what law I think Assange has broken. I know he hasn't broken any riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #187
Are you not understanding this on purpose? The Doctor. Aug 2012 #220
No, I think you are. jeff47 Aug 2012 #227
One must be ignorant of the Human Rights Act of 1998 The Doctor. Aug 2012 #228
So now you're arguing that Sweden isn't a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights? jeff47 Aug 2012 #229
There is a growing movement against extradition to the US cprise Oct 2012 #230
That assumes that this country retains any respect whatsoever hifiguy Aug 2012 #158
No, Manning is on trial. jeff47 Aug 2012 #162
LOL!! If you really believe the US wouldn't break laws, even rendition a person, even now riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #168
You can't extradite someone "because I said so". jeff47 Aug 2012 #172
The US and the CIA have been doing that for DECADES!! riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #188
The CIA and military intelligence can do any fucking thing they want. hifiguy Aug 2012 #174
Then they'd do what they want from the UK jeff47 Aug 2012 #185
Sweden's a partner in their CIA renditions. Already a precedent there. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #189
If you don't want to see other people's views on the matter... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #89
I entered to this thread at post #2 with a quote from the Wikileaks Stockholm coordinator, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #104
Sorry so much fighting here today Marrah_G Aug 2012 #115
Way to impugn the motives of thousands of DUers. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #90
... and the horse you rode in on. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #102
Quelle horreur! How dare I have no opinion on the Swedish allegations! struggle4progress Aug 2012 #112
No, you can have any opinion you want. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #121
You post a great deal of unsupported opinion while the 'dishonest' Assange supporters The Doctor. Aug 2012 #219
The sexual allegations are best tried in Sweden, not by conspiracy theorists around the world: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #221
The opinions of the ignorant The Doctor. Aug 2012 #223
How's he going to get to Ecuador, in a diplomatic pouch? Just saying, nt. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #150
I think you missed the "Guardian's Posts" about the two women. KoKo Aug 2012 #96
If this is the only charges (rape) why should they give him movonne Aug 2012 #4
There are no rape charges. There are no charges whatsoever. tsuki Aug 2012 #54
Oh no, I've been assured that the Brits ALWAYS zealously honor extradition requests riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #66
Karl Rove?? panader0 Aug 2012 #5
Figures his slime trail would be discovered in the Assange persecution. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #92
Naomi Wolf has far more credibility with me hifiguy Aug 2012 #7
+ 1. n/t truedelphi Aug 2012 #29
Plus 1 ozsea1 Aug 2012 #35
You are tarnishing the reputation of the KKK by associating it with Karl. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #52
He ran away from the investigation and then lied about it being over CabCurious Aug 2012 #8
He did not "run away from the investigation." Hissyspit Aug 2012 #16
It's incoherent nonsense. And hes, he ran away before the investigation was finished. CabCurious Aug 2012 #22
um the interview was finished -- they reopened. xchrom Aug 2012 #31
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2012 #55
He was told he was going to be interviewed and possibly arrested - he skipped town that night hack89 Aug 2012 #138
There are no charges. He's offered to go to Sweden anyway and answer questions in Sweden riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #146
Once again - there can be no charges until after the interview hack89 Aug 2012 #156
An interview to which he's agreed. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #161
The interview is not voluntary. hack89 Aug 2012 #179
Because the US pressured them. No interpol warrant has EVER been issued for questioning solely riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #191
There are presently 160 Interpol Red Notices for "sex crimes" hack89 Aug 2012 #199
He's wanted for questioning. Period. He's not a criminal, he's not been charged nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #203
He cannot legally be charged until after the interview. You know this. hack89 Aug 2012 #204
Why not? I've done it myself, demanded a jury trial and they backed down alot. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #163
But you have to have a plan B when they call your bluff. hack89 Aug 2012 #182
Sweden's our ally in covert CIA rendition. They've got blood on their hands riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #37
Yes... because the USA is closer to Sweden than the UK (so laughable) CabCurious Aug 2012 #43
Its not a contest, nor is it "either or". Sweden, like the US and the UK, is culpable of war crimes riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #57
Welcome to DU unc70 Aug 2012 #83
Yeah, there's a minor problem with that theory jeff47 Aug 2012 #127
Don't forget Sweden assisted the US in CIA rendition flights riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #141
Ecuador can say whatever they like, but he still has to have broken US law. jeff47 Aug 2012 #145
Ecuador isn't participating in an international incident like this because there's no evidence riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #149
I'm not asking what Ecuador's crappy lawyers think. jeff47 Aug 2012 #153
Renditions ended? Hissyspit Aug 2012 #159
So you didn't read the second sentence in your own back-up material? jeff47 Aug 2012 #164
Yes, I did. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #176
My point is it's a lovely conspiracy theory jeff47 Aug 2012 #180
No. The US has proven they DON'T have to have anything real to charge him with riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #192
Um, there is apparently a grand jury indictment against him. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #147
And that would be an indictment under what law? jeff47 Aug 2012 #152
I too can't wait to see exactly what law the US is going to pull out its ass for this riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #157
He will be designated an "enemy combatant" or some other such happy horseshit hifiguy Aug 2012 #166
If that was true, we'd do that while he was in the UK. jeff47 Aug 2012 #169
Then Assange has nothing to fear from charges. jeff47 Aug 2012 #167
LOL!! He'll be charged as an enemy combatant or something ridiculous riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #170
Exactly which whistleblowers have been _not_ charged? (nt) jeff47 Aug 2012 #173
B.S. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #39
charges will need to be brought up in order for a trial to proceed.. frylock Aug 2012 #73
Julian Assange was interviewed by the Swedish police. He remained in Sweden sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #126
are you still around? librechik Aug 2012 #216
Nothing has been 'confirmed' about Rove's role. It is an insinuation. randome Aug 2012 #9
"PM's Biographer Sees Rove Influence In Swedish Politics" KoKo Aug 2012 #17
So... now Rove controls foreign CIA plants? Good grief... CabCurious Aug 2012 #27
is "good grief" the crux of your argument? frylock Aug 2012 #74
Thanks for this... ljm2002 Aug 2012 #10
the pretense that this is about rape is just hysterical. also hysterical the DU posters who HiPointDem Aug 2012 #11
He's a creep and I believe those two progressive women. CabCurious Aug 2012 #23
those "progressive women" -- with intelligence connections. shame on you back. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #41
Yes... keep bashing these women and pretending the UK isn't the USA's top ally CabCurious Aug 2012 #47
as i said in another post, it's really disgusting that those pursuing right-wing ends cynically HiPointDem Aug 2012 #61
Here's what one had to say: Nevernose Aug 2012 #56
How do you know they are progressives? Marrah_G Aug 2012 #91
23yrs of international reporting on rape laws and MIC involvement = I'll lean Assange uponit7771 Aug 2012 #13
Anna Ardin was a CIA "honeytrap" FarCenter Aug 2012 #14
If not, she has had one of the weirdest lives of anyone I've read about. nt Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #19
Because the USA needed that... and because Sweden is more aligned with USA than the UK? CabCurious Aug 2012 #24
Consider the timeline -- either it was preplanned or the women were later induced or coerced. FarCenter Aug 2012 #70
These arguments are so... incoherent. frylock Aug 2012 #77
Ding Ding Ding - we have a winner. truedelphi Aug 2012 #42
Officially, of course, they say that Operation Mockingbird has been discontinued. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #62
High octane rape apologia. Robb Aug 2012 #18
It's disgusting, isn't it? CabCurious Aug 2012 #25
This forum has a lot of people like me who are information-starved. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #82
Agree! Make up our "Own Minds" from the information we read from diverse KoKo Aug 2012 #113
"Good Read" ......"J.D".........need more! KoKo Aug 2012 #114
Replying to my own post #82, in the last sentence I meant to type "unarmed civilians." JDPriestly Aug 2012 #195
maybe you should be looking at actual facts and testimony from courts and stuff TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #205
Sorry. I've read a lot of legal documents in my life. That is legalese. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #218
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #32
Nonsense. You know damn well it's more complicated than that. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #65
I just hate when people spout crappola..... DeSwiss Aug 2012 #78
... The offences of which he is accused and in respect of which his surrender is sought are alleged struggle4progress Aug 2012 #99
you karl rove fanboys are every bit as amusing frylock Aug 2012 #81
Was someone raped? whatchamacallit Aug 2012 #118
Katrin Axelsson from the European organization Women Against Rape had this to say: Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #21
Sweden isn't pursuing the rape charges with much zeal at all. But his defenders sure are zealous... CabCurious Aug 2012 #26
Damn, Son, You A Busy Little Beaver, You Are.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #36
But whiffing on recommendations, Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #51
Sweden just has to agree to NOT extradite Assange to the US riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #44
Sweden's done playing his games. He skipped out of country while authorities struggle4progress Aug 2012 #64
Oh yes, because international diplomatic incidents in London are FAR more preferable riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #67
+1000 n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #207
Did you join DU just to talk about Wikileaks? Marrah_G Aug 2012 #93
It sure looks like it. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #107
only if... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #116
It's southern term for a type of corn bread. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #123
Ohhhhh Marrah_G Aug 2012 #124
why not? TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #202
I would hope Sweden pursues all rape cases with zeal treestar Aug 2012 #40
Me too. Contrary to "opinions" they've been rather apathetic on this CabCurious Aug 2012 #45
And it is interesting to note that the latest novel truedelphi Aug 2012 #50
THIS ENDS IT uponit7771 Aug 2012 #58
+1 GliderGuider Aug 2012 #105
Just figures KKKarl is in the thick of this. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2012 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #34
So get a Swedish lawyer and defend treestar Aug 2012 #38
Assange ran before the investigation was even complete... CabCurious Aug 2012 #46
They closed the investigations then reopened them uponit7771 Aug 2012 #59
Let's see 1) no, 2) no and 3) no truebrit71 Aug 2012 #84
Doesn't that add up to a "Hell, no"? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #109
Yeah the whole thing about how the evil Swedes will send him to the evil USA treestar Aug 2012 #117
I'm not sure that any of this matters. Daemonaquila Aug 2012 #60
Either that or he will be suicided. hifiguy Aug 2012 #79
Thanks nandru Aug 2012 #63
This board was infiltrated long ago. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #106
Wolf, not Klein. n/t DemocratsForProgress Aug 2012 #122
I would add to this point JDPriestly Aug 2012 #68
And then there's Karl ROVE in his new role: Link/Article KoKo Aug 2012 #95
and boom goes the dynamite frylock Aug 2012 #71
I don't understand why this obvious persecution is defended by so many here. K&R n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #76
I have been trying to understand that myself. hifiguy Aug 2012 #80
A very good question, indeed. 99Forever Aug 2012 #85
What's green and used as a substitute for grass on playing fields? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #86
It might be a lot of "New DU'ers" don't know the background & some Oldies...well..... KoKo Aug 2012 #88
Mark Twain said something about the source of a man's corn pone GliderGuider Aug 2012 #110
9) Sexual assault accusations (not charges even) never result in international arrest warrants. morningfog Aug 2012 #103
Good Point...International Powers don't go for the Sexual ... KoKo Aug 2012 #119
Takes damn near Weird Willard level lying or bordering on Gohmert level stupidity TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #135
The anti-Assange BS is sickening. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #120
Yes. djean111 Aug 2012 #128
What, exactly, would he be extradited for? jeff47 Aug 2012 #130
That's pretty much what he didn't want to wait around to find out. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #131
You're free to speculate. jeff47 Aug 2012 #134
You can't render someone "just because" either... GliderGuider Aug 2012 #200
If they were going to use rendition, they'd do it from the UK. jeff47 Aug 2012 #208
They don't want to use rendition in this case - the target is too much of a public figure.. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #213
Then they have to have a law broken for extradition jeff47 Aug 2012 #215
There was no way to fix him in place in the UK GliderGuider Aug 2012 #217
Presumably, violating the Espionage Act [18 U.S.C. 793(e)] Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #132
And this is exactly the statue that the SCOTUS says does not apply. jeff47 Aug 2012 #133
So, you going to provide a citation for that assertion or....(?) Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #136
New York Times Co. v. United States (1971) jeff47 Aug 2012 #142
Evidently Ecuador has sufficient information that leads them to believe the US is going to extradite riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #140
Ecuador can declare the moon landing a hoax. Doesn't mean it's true. jeff47 Aug 2012 #143
Oh, yes, Ecuador is participating in a major international scandal over a HOAX? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #144
Again, their claim requires breaking US law. You continue to fail jeff47 Aug 2012 #148
There's a secret grand jury empaneled already on Assange is exactly that, secret. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #154
I'll just cut-n-paste since you continue to fail jeff47 Aug 2012 #155
LOL!! He'll be charged as an enemy combatant or something ridiculous riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #175
Yeah, it's not worth the trouble. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #178
Yes, it's so bothersome when people ask questions. jeff47 Aug 2012 #184
No, it's bothersome when people ignore answers Hissyspit Aug 2012 #186
I'm off for the night. Good luck riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #194
So you're being bothersome? jeff47 Aug 2012 #210
You can't charge someone as an "enemy combatant" during an extradition. jeff47 Aug 2012 #183
Sweden HAS done this before, with the US. Renditioned someone without any charges riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #193
And you keep ignoring that there's no reason to wait for Sweden jeff47 Aug 2012 #211
He's far too much of a public figure for rendition to have been an option. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #214
By seeking extradition from Sweden? jeff47 Aug 2012 #225
Answered 10x. If the Brits wouldn't do it during Iraq and Afghanistan wars, they won't for Assange riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #222
If you believe they didn't do it then jeff47 Aug 2012 #224
If there was nothing to be extradited for, djean111 Aug 2012 #198
Because guaranteeing no extradition is the same as issuing a pardon jeff47 Aug 2012 #209
The whole situation stinks... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #137
Good post, Kalidurga! DemocratsForProgress Aug 2012 #197
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #181
"Prosecutors never let two alleged victims have the same lawyer"? unblock Aug 2012 #190
Great post! We need to keep this high profile and high pressure. nt Zorra Aug 2012 #212
Kkkarl is a war criminal , that figures orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #226
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