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brooklynite

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117. Yes I would...

Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:55 PM

Nov 2018

Obama won PA, OH, WI, FL and WI. Clinton did not.

I’ve spoke to several Party Chairs and they tell me the same story of flawed electorate assumption, and corresponding poor tactical decisions, which make sense in light of my campaign work in Cleveland.

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So Hillary cant even CONSIDER running again? [View all] Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 OP

I don't want her to run Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #1

BULLSHIT!!!! bluestarone Nov 2018 #4

And people are entitled to their opinions. babylonsister Nov 2018 #52

I agree with you. metroins Nov 2018 #85

Another no Auggie Nov 2018 #101

Mine too... big time NO WAY!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #176

The poster is in no way Mariana Nov 2018 #89

TRUE and my post WAS NOT responding to the original poster? bluestarone Nov 2018 #91

Yes. Mariana Nov 2018 #95

Your right and i bluestarone Nov 2018 #100

I don't either, but she can consider it if she wants. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #5

That's up to her, don't you think? lunamagica Nov 2018 #36

Jimmy Carter can't run again SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #83

I think the OP is silly but your answer is wrong Jim Lane Nov 2018 #189

The OP said SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #202

OK, I didn't distinguish it the way you did Jim Lane Nov 2018 #212

Your not wanting her to run.. NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #126

Hillary Won the Election Last Time - What's Wrong with a Proven Winner? dlk Nov 2018 #208

I think she's probably... Mike Nelson Nov 2018 #2

I cant think of any who are ruled out, even the much older ones. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #3

Even on DU, many have been unwitting victims Jakes Progress Nov 2018 #113

Or Sanders, or Biden. And neither of them ran a primary basically unchallenged, and a 3 million win. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #7

She's run for President and lost twice. Do we have any male candidates wanting to run who have the jalan48 Nov 2018 #6

Lost twice, plus she's getting older Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #9

The four top names usually mentioned here are all nearing 80. Bfd Nov 2018 #50

She's only 71. That's at least five years younger than two of the Democratic.... George II Nov 2018 #109

Thanks George. See! Hillary doesn't fit that "she's too old" bs afterall. Bfd Nov 2018 #154

Absolutely, lost not just twice, but twice in a row...her decision not to run again is a wise one. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #182

Biden violetpastille Nov 2018 #14

Thanks for this info. I forgot he ran in 1987 jalan48 Nov 2018 #18

Biden Renew Deal Nov 2018 #16

Is twice needed? Bernie ran and lost even the primary treestar Nov 2018 #53

Hillary twice for President in eight years. Biden also. Kerry once and Bernie once I believe. jalan48 Nov 2018 #65

Many of those mentioned here (Biden, Sanders, Kerry, and Clinton).... George II Nov 2018 #111

I think every candidate deserves a second chance, like Hillary had. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #183

If the thread was a former Kerry aide saying he was in, you would get the same negatives karynnj Nov 2018 #195

No, she lost once. You are counting her primary run. Uder that criteria, IIRC, Nixon lost lunamagica Nov 2018 #70

Biden ran in 1988 and 2008. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #86

She lost because of a very flawed system and Bob factors liberal N proud Nov 2018 #132

Shouldn't have been close against a candidate like Trump and California was the main reason for jalan48 Nov 2018 #136

Did you forget, trump had a little help? liberal N proud Nov 2018 #144

If we're going to win in 2020 we will need a very dynamic candidate. Not fair, but it's reality. jalan48 Nov 2018 #153

Very true... we need to pick a candidate who can inspire voters to overwhelmingly defeat InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #177

Biden EffieBlack Nov 2018 #171

Sounds like you just want to stir it up today Pisces Nov 2018 #8

I am sorry if openly supporting Hilary Clinton on Democratic Underground bugs you... Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #12

If Hillary were to run again I'd be behind her GWC58 Nov 2018 #39

Right elleng Nov 2018 #28

I see OPs here all the time mcar Nov 2018 #43

Good question. Somehow suggesting Hillary is stirring things up?? Bfd Nov 2018 #48

It's not really Newland56 Nov 2018 #125

Stir what up? The question is pretty simple Bfd Nov 2018 #46

You want a name? Here's one: Bernie 'Get off my lawn you damned kids' Sanders. elocs Nov 2018 #10

I would hope he wouldn't run again too. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #13

Yeah and he's not a Democrat, he's an GWC58 Nov 2018 #41

She can consider it if she wants Lotusflower70 Nov 2018 #11

No. It's over for her Renew Deal Nov 2018 #15

Its over for bernie too. We have some amazing people to choose from Bfd Nov 2018 #71

+1 BootinUp Nov 2018 #80

I hope so Renew Deal Nov 2018 #108

I think so too... Hillary made a wise choice to bow out of politics gracefully. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #180

I think it would be a stroke of genius for HRC to announce a bid for the Presidency. Aristus Nov 2018 #17

Except she doesn't deserve any more babylonsister Nov 2018 #88

I'll answer: Al Gore, John Kerry and Mike Dukakis... brooklynite Nov 2018 #19

Please point out the stories, talking heads saying they cant run or the Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #21

Hello Eliot Rosewater.... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #31

umm brer cat Nov 2018 #140

The point---if it wasn't obvious enough--was that HHH never ran for president again... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #163

So are you saying that IF any of those male individuals did run again LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #96

Not just tried twice and lost... twice in a row. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #185

She didn't fucking lose 2016 and everyone saying so in this thread knows it. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #197

It will be a short thread TheFarseer Nov 2018 #146

I disagree that Kerry lost because of badly run campaign. It was a tough year for us karynnj Nov 2018 #44

I worked on his campaign and I couldn't tell you what his message was... brooklynite Nov 2018 #115

I was blown away by one speech where he connected working to fight climate change karynnj Nov 2018 #128

You shut him good and proper. Thanks. John Fante Nov 2018 #139

Thanks to you and I agree he is very underrated karynnj Nov 2018 #147

Were they told to go away? mcar Nov 2018 #45

Poorly Managed?? That's the reason you give why the EC didn't vote her way? Bfd Nov 2018 #56

Yes I would... brooklynite Nov 2018 #117

What lost the election wasn't mismanagement, it was the unbalanced electoral college. George II Nov 2018 #131

See: Obama 2008, Obama 2012 brooklynite Nov 2018 #135

That's just silly FBaggins Nov 2018 #206

Beto and Stacy ran amazing campaigns .... so did Andrew down in Florida. LenaBaby61 Nov 2018 #124

I'd love to see Gore run again lunamagica Nov 2018 #72

Gore lost nine States won by Clinton; winning any one would have made FL irrelevant brooklynite Nov 2018 #123

I would love her to run again, and win, to stick it to the Republicans. The problem is if she runs OnDoutside Nov 2018 #20

I like the SoS idea. Put the fear of God in Putin. brush Nov 2018 #34

That would be revenge served nice and hot ! Putin would be crapping himself, 4 years of a world of OnDoutside Nov 2018 #47

YES! Hillary would be "great again" as S.O.S. maddiemom Nov 2018 #110

I doubt she would accept the nomination again karynnj Nov 2018 #129

who said she can't consider? qazplm135 Nov 2018 #22

Practically everyone says she cant, and almost NONE of them say that about the other person Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #23

She can consider all she wants qazplm135 Nov 2018 #152

Good question Takket Nov 2018 #24

Exactly, you notice her name isnt even brought up as possible candidates. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #26

I'd love it if Bernie would not consider running again. NightWatcher Nov 2018 #25

+10000 ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #54

"Lets play a game, which men CANT even consider running again? Either party. " Jarqui Nov 2018 #27

Of course she can run again. It is just that Hillary has said she wouldn't. Does that mean she still_one Nov 2018 #29

I'm in: Biden, Sanders and trump. brush Nov 2018 #30

They're almost 80. If HRC is "too old" what are these guys. Bfd Nov 2018 #61

That's what I'm saying. We Dems have done well with candidates... brush Nov 2018 #74

Exactly. So bye to Biden, Bernie, Warren, Clinton ...etc Bfd Nov 2018 #81

Bernie and Joe's ages are frequently brought up, and not John Fante Nov 2018 #141

And the fact of the matter is that with age comes mental and physical decline. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #148

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say she can't run. Of course she can. dameatball Nov 2018 #32

You haven't heard anyone say it. Mariana Nov 2018 #92

I see your point. ananda Nov 2018 #33

Interesting ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #59

So if a candidate has run & lost the they are off the 2020 list?? Bfd Nov 2018 #66

I think she is phenomenal ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #73

Lol..damn the hypocrisy is waist deep out there ..wtf Bfd Nov 2018 #76

You're catching on! ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #79

Its exhausting to witness day after day. Bfd Nov 2018 #82

I see a lot of people saying Beto shouldn't run for President..including Beto. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #116

Sometimes our losers turn out to be winners! ananda Nov 2018 #209

Kerry & Romney can't run again. KWR65 Nov 2018 #35

They can, but likely won't. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #160

Here is a lady who would win against Trump..Michelle Obama.. Stuart G Nov 2018 #37

I would be very happy to vote for her. In_The_Wind Nov 2018 #38

No question there... Michelle is an inspirational leader & would make a great 1st female President. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #178

name for me please lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #40

And I'm convinced that Nixon would have lost for a second time to a man named Kennedy... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #64

Had Johnson succeeded in ending the war, even Humphrey would have won lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #67

very true borgesian Nov 2018 #78

true... but most were discouraged by their party from running again lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #87

Yup. That was my understanding as well. borgesian Nov 2018 #97

Right? mcar Nov 2018 #42

name the one who lost, ran again, and then won. lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #60

But that's not the issue, is it? mcar Nov 2018 #63

The facts are that the electorate doesn't like a "loser" lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #69

Who said she can't consider it? TCJ70 Nov 2018 #49

anyone who suggest Bernie, even older than Hillary treestar Nov 2018 #51

+1,000 NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #127

Hillary Clinton is five years younger than Sanders, and women live five years longer than men... George II Nov 2018 #137

Love it treestar Nov 2018 #145

Not so FBaggins Nov 2018 #207

She'd get nowhere. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #55

The decision not to run again has already been made. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #187

I hope she does not Marrah_Goodman Nov 2018 #57

Of course she can consider running. Progressive dog Nov 2018 #58

She has already considered it. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #62

I do and admire her bowing out gracefully. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #186

I think she just didn't want to put herself through that again. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #190

Yes, Hillary gave it her all the last two times she ran and lost to political newcomers. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #193

If Hillary announces, she immediately gets $500 from me. All other Dems oasis Nov 2018 #68

Mee too! Bfd Nov 2018 #75

Of course she can, if she wishes. I doubt she will, though. MineralMan Nov 2018 #77

There's a difference between can and should Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #84

Depends on who you ask right? People have certainly said Sanders "wouldn't be allowed...." JCanete Nov 2018 #90

Harold Stassen Nasruddin Nov 2018 #93

Hillary can do whatever she wants to do but the truth is that it would give Trump the foil that r/o BlueInRedHell Nov 2018 #94

I don't want her to run for President. She should be appointed to SCOTUS. bitterross Nov 2018 #98

Hope she won't. zentrum Nov 2018 #99

It's not just her. Biden and Sanders need to forget about it too. BlueStater Nov 2018 #102

Biden was on a winning ticket twice as VP. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #114

We can do a lot better than a nearly 80 year old man. BlueStater Nov 2018 #121

Bad thinking on your part, methinks... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #156

Him dying in office isn't exactly a great selling point. BlueStater Nov 2018 #158

Bye now. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #159

You didn't like my answer, so now you're going to be rude and dismissive. BlueStater Nov 2018 #161

No are think you are being rude and dismissive and are absolutely dead wrong... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #162

You initiated this conversation and don't like that your opinion isn't shared. BlueStater Nov 2018 #165

Saying that "dying in office isn't a selling point" on JFK's death anniversary... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #166

Whatever, Mr. Been-here-for-a-month. BlueStater Nov 2018 #169

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #170

I hope you do figure it out. BlueStater Nov 2018 #172

Yes, Biden is a proven two-time winner and, for that, definitely deserves another InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #194

People don't vote for VP. Obama won those contests. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #201

Except that Bernie has more energy and vitality than most 50-year-olds. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #213

"which men CANT even consider running again?" Tarc Nov 2018 #103

None of the following redixdoragon Nov 2018 #104

Oh. murielm99 Nov 2018 #142

Of course she can consider it, but she shouldn't run. SMC22307 Nov 2018 #105

Her trustworthiness ratings were absolutely abysmal GitRDun Nov 2018 #106

Bernie Could Have Won ConnorMarc Nov 2018 #215

Thanks. Your perspective isn't popular here, but LibDemAlways Nov 2018 #218

Of course Hillary can run again ... but jb5150 Nov 2018 #107

Gore went through this in 2004 zaj Nov 2018 #112

A lot of people have said Bernie and Biden shouldn't run. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #118

Anyone can run Andy823 Nov 2018 #119

Question To The OP ConnorMarc Nov 2018 #120

Good question melman Nov 2018 #134

Says who? DFW Nov 2018 #122

Ageism. Joe941 Nov 2018 #130

With age comes mental and physical decline. That's just a fact of life. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #149

It is what it is - Baby Boomers are no longer the biggest voting bloc. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #175

She can do anything she wants to Bettie Nov 2018 #133

Here are a few Separation Nov 2018 #138

Mike Dukakis Al Gore John Kerry. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #143

The correct answer... clementine613 Nov 2018 #150

Anyone over 70 whistler162 Nov 2018 #151

Pretty much this Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #174

Obama krawhitham Nov 2018 #155

Hillary has been running for president since 2000 Azathoth Nov 2018 #157

Michelle would represent women well... don't see how she would lose. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #181

She would "lose" if she were elected Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #196

I'm assuming you meant to say 2008. She didn't run in 2000 or 2004. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #188

No, she's been running since 2000 Azathoth Nov 2018 #211

Your description of her fine Senate career is incorrect. She ran for Senate to serve in the Senate. StevieM Nov 2018 #216

Do we really want to go through the whole Hillary / Bernie shit again? Initech Nov 2018 #164

She can run, but I doubt I will support her in the primary Marrah_Goodman Nov 2018 #167

She can, but probably should not, and probably won't. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #168

Precisely!! Why Bernie deserves another chance, should he decide InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #184

Anyone can consider running. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #173

Agreed. See post #148. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #179

Although I can understand someone wanting a new face, Hortensis Nov 2018 #191

I agree that Hillary Clinton is an excellent candidate Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #198

:) Well, here's a counterargument to your counter. Hortensis Nov 2018 #210

I don't think this has anything to do with gender. Vinca Nov 2018 #192

SIGH. OK, if you insist - when T Barrett made noise about possibly running for a third time against Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2018 #199

Hillary Clinton has every right to consider running again Gothmog Nov 2018 #200

If anybody watched Murhpy Brown last night then realized this did NOT have to happen Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #204

again, vagina. n/t librechik Nov 2018 #203

She won the first time. I want her to run again sellitman Nov 2018 #205

Any American, male or female over the age of 35 can run for president and there is no Autumn Nov 2018 #214

I voted for her, I'd vote for her again. But I worry about the people that would vote against her. LakeSuperiorView Nov 2018 #217