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riderinthestorm

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102. If that's what this was really about, I'd 100% agree.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 04:00 PM
Aug 2012

If Sweden would agree to NOT extradite Assange to the US, I would also agree that Assange should go back immediately and answer those questions.

Sweden could stop this cold by agreeing to NOT extradite Assange. Countries do that all the time too.

Just to clear it up a little more Marrah_G Aug 2012 #1
So?...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #8
That doesn't make it less of a rape. She didn't consent, pnwmom Aug 2012 #18
I didn't say it made it any less rape Marrah_G Aug 2012 #26
I don't remember if I've ever seen her statement, but both things could be true. pnwmom Aug 2012 #69
and every word they say are true...I think at least one of them already changed movonne Aug 2012 #59
How do you know one of them wasn't intimidated by outsiders to change her story? n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #71
Why does that have to be so? treestar Aug 2012 #119
Except that Assange's extradition isn't really about "rape" at all. ananda Aug 2012 #2
If it was not 'really about "rape" at all', something would have happened before the rape allegation muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #3
since when did the us/uk extradite & storm embassies over rape charges. it's just laughable. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #4
it's worse than that. there are no charges, just allegations. cali Aug 2012 #7
Valid warrant, and I've listed the four charges below. He should msanthrope Aug 2012 #13
But cop-killers get a walk... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #121
He refused to be interviewed, which they needed to do before they charged him. pnwmom Aug 2012 #23
Theres no reason he cant be interviewed in the embassy. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #31
Yes--there is a reason. msanthrope Aug 2012 #44
You don't give a reason why he can't be interviewed where he's at uponit7771 Aug 2012 #50
Because there is no reason. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #58
Let me try again--fugitives are returned to the relevant jurisdiction msanthrope Aug 2012 #65
Oh yeah, the UK has a long history of returning fugitives to their relevant jurisdiction... riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #72
Hey..I agree Pinochet should have been returned. But letting Pinochet go doesn't msanthrope Aug 2012 #78
But the UK can and does. Murderers, spies, arms dealers and other international "criminals" riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #92
Well, I kinda like a rape allegation being pursued. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #96
If that's what this was really about, I'd 100% agree. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #102
The warrant is for questioning, I understand? HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #93
No. Apparently the British court thinks it's for prosecution. msanthrope Aug 2012 #95
Then if he steps outside the embassy, onto British soil, HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #107
Actually, I don't think the Swedes should do anything. msanthrope Aug 2012 #108
Typically, that is what happens. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #110
Boom SnohoDem Aug 2012 #115
Especially since ovatures to answer the charges have been rejected. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #116
Who thinks that? It's British exceptionalism, pure and simple.... msanthrope Aug 2012 #11
2 years in British courts? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #25
Extradition over rape charges? Frequently muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #15
yeah, for people like roman polanski. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #32
Poor Roman Polanski....raped a 13 year-old, still is 'persecuted.' msanthrope Aug 2012 #45
So the problem there is a program that detains people indefinitely muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #62
Pentagon Plans Indefinite Detention of Bradley Manning (Video & Transcript) HiPointDem Aug 2012 #64
Um...dude. You realize that Manning isn't at Quantico? He was moved over a year ago msanthrope Aug 2012 #76
ignoring that member for good reason i'm sure HiPointDem Aug 2012 #87
Are you ignoring me again? Still doesn't change the fact that msanthrope Aug 2012 #97
That's the problem right there Aerows Aug 2012 #122
No one "knows" that, including you. You weren't there. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #19
At best a flawed hero. Robb Aug 2012 #5
I'm going to say something that will surely be unpopular cali Aug 2012 #6
Yeah. Why did Anita Hill continue to work with Clarence Thomas? Why didn't she just..... msanthrope Aug 2012 #10
that's different. cali Aug 2012 #22
Right. Because Assange is a 'lefty' and Clarence Thomas is not. msanthrope Aug 2012 #28
Reasonable doubt exist for a .....reason uponit7771 Aug 2012 #53
Which is why he should go to Sweden, face the charges, and plead his case. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #55
Here's the problem Aerows Aug 2012 #117
Maybe it was a set up Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #16
Would your opinion differ if you had told him when you picked him up to use a condom for safety? Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #17
Some people are very heavy sleepers even without alcohol (which could have been involved). pnwmom Aug 2012 #27
are you effing kidding? Rape is rape. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #39
happened to me... Londoncalling Aug 2012 #86
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #120
happened to me too and more than once TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #128
No shit. Another thing, the woman cited in the OP refused to sign the statement as written by the Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #98
Wait... Aerows Aug 2012 #124
It's not up to her to drop "charges" that she never made. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #125
I'm confused Aerows Aug 2012 #127
Here's all four charges Muriel.... msanthrope Aug 2012 #9
But one of the women recanted her "rape" allegation Generic Other Aug 2012 #12
No. She didn't 'recant.' If she had, don't you think Assange's lawyers might have msanthrope Aug 2012 #20
She was quoted at the time by the Guardian Generic Other Aug 2012 #33
The Guardian? Did they interview her??? msanthrope Aug 2012 #35
But if the victim has previously been quoted denying she was a victim Generic Other Aug 2012 #60
That is important to Assange's defense. The one he mounts in Sweden. msanthrope Aug 2012 #66
Why would Sweden guarantee the safety of someone who is not their citizen? randome Aug 2012 #68
The crime is embarassing the US Generic Other Aug 2012 #80
That's nothing to the US treestar Aug 2012 #123
Well I am not a lawyer so I may get the language wrong... Generic Other Aug 2012 #43
Again, you got a court cite for that, or more British tabloid speculation? msanthrope Aug 2012 #46
I just took it from the link you gave me Generic Other Aug 2012 #61
Where??? And please, take the time to read and distinguish between msanthrope Aug 2012 #70
You asked if it was brought up in the court papers Generic Other Aug 2012 #83
Where in the court papers? Quote it. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #84
PAGE 24 Generic Other Aug 2012 #85
That's a defense allegation, unproven, as the judge notes on page 26. msanthrope Aug 2012 #91
I was asked if Assange's lawyers had brought it up in court Generic Other Aug 2012 #106
If this was a republican right winger of any sort everybody would be all over the rape charges- snooper2 Aug 2012 #14
Rape apologia for Assange, DSK, Polanski....apparently msanthrope Aug 2012 #24
How quickly we believe the powers that be... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #30
Why don't you, and show us what you mean? nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #36
ah discredit the victim. nice. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #42
No kidding... they'd be screaming for his head. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #41
And if it was Obama, everyone would be defending him. n/t girl gone mad Aug 2012 #63
Me too Londoncalling Aug 2012 #89
and then there is the reason all these countries are after him Enrique Aug 2012 #21
...right, that little tidbit thrown in puts reasonable doubt on the TIMING of the allegations uponit7771 Aug 2012 #56
Unrec...google the woman who is making the allegation.. joeybee12 Aug 2012 #29
That is what Hermain Cane said. n/t vaberella Aug 2012 #40
Because whenever a woman alleges rape, the first thing to do is to go after the woman. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #51
whenever a woman blogs about "7 Steps to Legal Revenge" against cheating lovers.. frylock Aug 2012 #104
so he has been found guilty? guilty on DU already without a trial. nice nt msongs Aug 2012 #34
Do you understand the meanign of 'allegation'? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #37
The court of public opinion doesn't.... NCTraveler Aug 2012 #38
Perhaps you misunderstood the OP? I don't see where he said that. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #47
He at the Ecuador embassy Aerows Aug 2012 #126
Has he been formally charged yet or was the red notice just for questioning? ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #48
The Swedish process is not directly comparable to the process in the UK: this was one of the struggle4progress Aug 2012 #111
Either (1) obvious pretext or (2) a bona fide rape prosecution unrelated to leaks re AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #49
Total Disinformation all the time! Bragi Aug 2012 #52
+1, I think bottom line this is what an objective observer would look at...MIC big time... uponit7771 Aug 2012 #54
This case is about "rape" just like Clinton's impeachment was about "perjury" riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #57
clinton dared to challenge the ptb? hardly. it's about one group of political/economic 1%-ers HiPointDem Aug 2012 #67
Fine, doesn't change it though. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #74
clinton joined their ranks before entering the WH. that's how he got into the WH. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #75
The supposed rape victims were CIA "honeytraps". FarCenter Aug 2012 #73
Sure they were. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #77
I doubt it LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #114
Thank You Londoncalling Aug 2012 #79
Julian Assange Asylum: Ecuador is Right to Stand Up to the US xchrom Aug 2012 #81
Problems with the EAW for Julian Assange xchrom Aug 2012 #82
Of course Assange's lawyers challenged every single aspect of the EAW. That's their job! randome Aug 2012 #88
They lost those arguments at every level struggle4progress Aug 2012 #112
ecuador says he has not been charged with a crime xchrom Aug 2012 #90
re Correa and media tama Aug 2012 #109
The Swedish process is not directly comparable to the UK process. The UK courts held struggle4progress Aug 2012 #113
from 2010: Q&A: Julian Assange allegations xchrom Aug 2012 #94
Here's the charges...and the determination that the warrant is for prosecution. msanthrope Aug 2012 #99
the country that wants him has not charged him with a crime. xchrom Aug 2012 #100
Julian Assange's right to asylum xchrom Aug 2012 #101
... xchrom Aug 2012 #103
Sex accusers boasted about their 'conquest' of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange frylock Aug 2012 #105
He should face up to that rather than hiding behind treestar Aug 2012 #118
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