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107. It may be the only investigator Trump

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Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:04 PM

Nov 2018

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Impeachment without a chance to win it is a fool's errand and BAD idea, period. [View all] LBM20 Nov 2018 OP

Yes, besides we should aim bigger, we should tear the executive branch down instead ck4829 Nov 2018 #1

Well, I am certainly glad someone put you in charge. rzemanfl Nov 2018 #2

Excuse the heck out of me for having an opinion. And if you want to chase losing pipe dreams LBM20 Nov 2018 #12

You saved me from a galactic mistake. I am in you debt. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #15

The original poster is correct however. Liberal Veteran Nov 2018 #18

I think the OP's points could all have been made from within the confines of rzemanfl Nov 2018 #21

You know this is a discussion board where people share their opinions, right? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #72

We can multitask manor321 Nov 2018 #3

If Republicans turn against Trump after the Mueller report, sure, lets impeach marylandblue Nov 2018 #5

It doesn't matter...without Senate participation , we can't remove Trump from office...and we Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #7

Did you read the OP? I said only IF there were clear crimes while in office. Absent that you don't LBM20 Nov 2018 #9

I agree, there should be no impeachment without Republicans on board marylandblue Nov 2018 #4

focusing on issues without a chance to win is a fool's errand and bad idea, period. unblock Nov 2018 #6

It works because if we pass say health care inititatives in the House...the GOP ignores it at their Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #10

you're way too optimistic about how that would play out. unblock Nov 2018 #13

We write health care improvements everyday make them own it. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #23

Impeachment won't help us unless we can get the GOP to convict. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #66

It would be such a colossal mistake eissa Nov 2018 #8

Persuade me it would backfire. maxsolomon Nov 2018 #32

It would energize the right like nothing else and divide us GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #40

Not persuaded. maxsolomon Nov 2018 #44

Luckily my opinion is not changed by public opinion GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #49

This Spring is not immediately maxsolomon Nov 2018 #58

Republicans have at least 51 Senators, probably 53 Bucky Nov 2018 #87

Fuck it! Impeach the Orange fascist ASAP! Vinnie From Indy Nov 2018 #11

Tell that to the Democrats who threatened to Impeach Nixon berni_mccoy Nov 2018 #14

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Trump lacks even the meager scruples of Nixon. Liberal Veteran Nov 2018 #22

I'm sorry, but your point is too fine Bucky Nov 2018 #90

Republican Senators made Nixon resign. Told him not enough votes in Senate to block conviction. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #38

Yes, but he wouldn't have resigned unless impeached. berni_mccoy Nov 2018 #48

Impeachment is necessary but not sufficient. The whole point of the whole thread. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #50

Respectfully, that is incorrect. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #41

He was impeached. He resigned before Senate held conviction hearing and pardoned after resignation berni_mccoy Nov 2018 #47

Wrong. Nixon was NEVER impeached. What was the vote count in the House? Never happened. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #51

A house committee voted bipartisan to recommend articles of impeachment Bucky Nov 2018 #88

Your message and title have it correct. +1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #114

Technically the house never voted on impeachment GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #54

Would republicans have done so if the articles of impeachment were not put on the house floor? berni_mccoy Nov 2018 #55

Not sure how much this would impact the outcome. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #79

The Democrats must do what is demanded of them to do under the Constitution dem4decades Nov 2018 #16

To write legislation that improves people's lives not to impeach with no way to win a conviction. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #25

they can and will write that legislation maxsolomon Nov 2018 #29

Gee, and then we get Pence dhol82 Nov 2018 #35

It would show that Dems are willing to protect the Constitution maxsolomon Nov 2018 #46

Thank you. Without upholding the Constitution all else is lost. dem4decades Nov 2018 #63

Agreed. 100 Bucky Nov 2018 #89

Anyone not wishing to uphold the US Constitution is a fool Iowa420 Nov 2018 #17

Those favoring impeachment are fools... GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #42

Not doing something that will surely fail is stronger than doing something that will surely fail. George II Nov 2018 #84

History will not forgive this Dem led House if they do not perform their jobs. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #19

This. It's not the expedient thing to do, but it's the right thing to do. Squinch Nov 2018 #77

Your banking your argument on Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham Bucky Nov 2018 #91

you are totallly wrong, the criminalty in trump's past and present is too great to ignore beachbum bob Nov 2018 #20

I disagree. If we're silent by our inaction, we're complicit. Vinca Nov 2018 #24

Nobody is talking about inaction, investigate & indict Trump should be our Mantra populistdriven Nov 2018 #56

A sitting president won't be indicted. He has to be removed from office. Vinca Nov 2018 #70

You can't get an indictment, so you go for impeachment? Bucky Nov 2018 #94

I agree, but we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Vinca Nov 2018 #99

Your concern is noted. maxsolomon Nov 2018 #26

Can you name me the 19 Republican Senators that might vote to remove? Bucky Nov 2018 #92

I agree Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #27

I'm beginning to think it will hurt more politically to not impeach him. kentuck Nov 2018 #28

I agree Rizen Nov 2018 #68

" Trump's case is entirely different than Clinton's. It's our duty to impeach him." mtnsnake Nov 2018 #75

I agree. Squinch Nov 2018 #78

Partially agree Midnightwalk Nov 2018 #30

It will hurt the Democratic Party more if they do NOT impeach him. scheming daemons Nov 2018 #31

Your comparison of Clinton's impeachment to what might happen if Trump is impeached is ridiculous mtnsnake Nov 2018 #33

everyone does not agree he deserves impeachment GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #43

Whatever. n/t mtnsnake Nov 2018 #45

You accuse a fellow Democrat of having zero spine Bucky Nov 2018 #96

You don't know what you're talking about mtnsnake Nov 2018 #104

You're describing a single step as the full Journey Bucky Nov 2018 #109

I think the Mueller report is going to be so damning Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #34

What would the republicans do if the tide was turned? They would impeach! pwb Nov 2018 #36

Dems in the House have no choice... albacore Nov 2018 #37

Unless one has 67 votes, impeachment is a vain act that will backfire Gothmog Nov 2018 #39

It's indisputable that impeachment is necessary to protect the country and constitution Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #52

I don't think you know what indisputable means Bucky Nov 2018 #93

Impeachment was designed by the founders as a Deus ex Machina for times like these Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #113

Agreed. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #53

remember post clinton's impeachment. we do not need the moron's approval above 50%. pansypoo53219 Nov 2018 #57

Agreed. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #59

hmmm elmac Nov 2018 #60

Allow me to add... OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #61

Rational analysis is so 1990s Bucky Nov 2018 #98

I've likened impeachment with zero chance of conviction in the Senate like elocs Nov 2018 #62

well, there's always cuddling Bucky Nov 2018 #100

I think it is a matter of what the crimes are and how strong the evidence Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #64

"Look what happened in WI. They tried to recall Walker. They lost and then lost again." elocs Nov 2018 #65

Agree..we have him checked. just think how much he will be hated come 2020 Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #67

Are you kidding? Rizen Nov 2018 #69

This isn't my top issue Politicub Nov 2018 #71

Not if its the only way to get the truth out there... JCMach1 Nov 2018 #73

Patience needs to prevail Generic Brad Nov 2018 #74

No, you don't want him gone more than the rest of us Bucky Nov 2018 #95

I agree. I prefer that we humiliate him by beating him in 2020 redstateblues Nov 2018 #76

When the evidence is presented MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #80

Yes, how can Republicans resist the call to impeachment... Bucky Nov 2018 #97

Failure to expose crimes and pursue justice is DERELICTION OF DUTY Martin Eden Nov 2018 #81

Look at Watergate. That was in investigation. They never even had to impeach and Nixon went down. McCamy Taylor Nov 2018 #82

He was just found to be personally involved in an illegal in kind contribution JonLP24 Nov 2018 #83

Is it possible? kentuck Nov 2018 #85

OP is right. Like the Republicans found out 20 years ago Bucky Nov 2018 #86

This isn't about theraby JonLP24 Nov 2018 #101

Look, in an ideal world he would be impeached and removed Bucky Nov 2018 #103

Use those Senators votes against them JonLP24 Nov 2018 #105

God, I wish it was that simple Bucky Nov 2018 #110

Identity politics? JonLP24 Nov 2018 #111

Do you understand what gets revealed in impeachment hearings? SHRED Nov 2018 #102

It may be the only investigator Trump Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #107

So impeachment is a good idea. Glad you agree. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #106

There IS very strong evidence of CRIMINAL WRONGDOING - HIGH TREASON!! ElementaryPenguin Nov 2018 #108

nope bigtree Nov 2018 #112