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15. We still need a promise that the chained CPI is off the table.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 05:13 PM
Aug 2012

The despicable chained CPI lowers projected benefits by changing the formula used to calculate SS benefits. It does not change the SS program itself, but it is viciously harmful to seniors, because it cuts projected benefits increasingly severely over time and is BUILT on the assumption that money can be saved by forcing seniors to accept lower quality substitutes on their grocery lists.

Defenders of the chained CPI have often defended it by using a word game....arguing that it is not a change to Social Security. But it is an indirect assault on BENEFITS.

Obama proposed the chained CPI last year and has defended it strongly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1136433

Promising that the Social Security program itself will not be changed, as Biden did today, is not enough. We also need assurances that indirect assaults on SS benefits, like the chained CPI, are off the table.

I got a crush on Joe Biden ;-) TDale313 Aug 2012 #1
for all the talk of presidential candidates getting flipped DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #2
That sucks, I was hoping they would drop the B Calm Aug 2012 #3
But will there be a chained CPI? woo me with science Aug 2012 #4
Biden is clearly part of Obama's conspiracy. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #5
Best guess, don't believe ANY of them. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2012 #7
Really - it's the Congress that sends these bills to the President, it's "advise and consent". xtraxritical Aug 2012 #9
The President either signs them or does not. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #11
2011 Flashback: Obama Pushes for Modifications to Medicare & Social Security (Including Chained CPI) stockholmer Aug 2012 #8
Important links with his own words. Thank you. woo me with science Aug 2012 #12
He hasn't mentioned that rhetoric in almost a year. joshcryer Aug 2012 #19
Thank you for bringing up the facts and adding the links to the supporting information. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #22
I like this one Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #6
But, but, but Simpson! Bowles!... SidDithers Aug 2012 #10
How is it going up in Canada? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #23
... SidDithers Aug 2012 #47
And thank you to Manny and woo me with science and all the other great DUers and sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #13
Thank you for staying on this, Sabrina. woo me with science Aug 2012 #16
Chained CPI needs to be addressed, there's no question about that. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #17
It sounds like Biden has addressed it. joshcryer Aug 2012 #27
Yes, because if Joe Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #21
Yes, they deserve all the credit in the world for making sure this happens. joshcryer Aug 2012 #28
And what could be harder work Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #35
Oh it's worse than that. joshcryer Aug 2012 #36
I must correct you on the repeal of DADT Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #38
Oh yes. joshcryer Aug 2012 #39
Why do you read FR then? You wouldn't have to see nonsense like that if you simply sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #43
I saw that on DU. joshcryer Aug 2012 #44
Joe is hearing plenty from all of us, including sending articles like those published by sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #41
Am I opposed to Democratic programs? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #42
+ 1,000 Sabrina suffragette Aug 2012 #40
It's well past time stupidicus Aug 2012 #14
We still need a promise that the chained CPI is off the table. woo me with science Aug 2012 #15
I completely agree stupidicus Aug 2012 #18
What " 'purists' have been too shortsighted" Were these people other than the Blue-Dog Democrats AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #25
none of the above stupidicus Aug 2012 #50
*ALL* reforms to SS can be considered cuts. joshcryer Aug 2012 #20
Raising the cap is fine by most, very few are crying about the top 20% paying a little extra here. TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #37
That, and another trick needs to be taken off the table. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #24
President Obama rejected his commision's call for military cuts MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #26
His 2013 budget freezes military spending and doesn't cut a dime from SS. joshcryer Aug 2012 #29
And he's rejected the 22% cut for the average recipient? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #30
Yes. joshcryer Aug 2012 #31
Please link to a quote MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #32
I don't do quotes, rhetoric is cheap, here is his actual proposal: joshcryer Aug 2012 #33
They proposed raising the cap, and cutting average benefit by 22% MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #45
Not "and" but "or." joshcryer Aug 2012 #46
They voted for specific recommendations, no? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #48
Spam deleted by DURHAM D (MIR Team) numnumnum Aug 2012 #34
That's the way to win an election--Biden for President! Demeter Aug 2012 #49
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