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113. After trump claimed he is such a good man

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:14 PM

Sep 2018

And then this comes out , he could have played a part in gang rapes of underage women they drugged up or illegally gave booze to , so they could gang rape them then . If he as was claimed played any part of this , he needs to be criminally charged and gone after now, and more reports of this kind of behavior will come out, some even worse maybe, and trump and the gop knew about all this and still wanted him on the court for them. Talk about a disaster for trump and the gop. This guy shouldn't even be on the bench , let alone the highest court in this country. trump and the gop have just completely screwed themselves over good this time. There goes the Senate, and all chances on keeping the House. Their credibility is around zero about now on anything they say or claim.

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BREAKING - Deposition of Julie Swetnick (Kavanaugh's new accuser) [View all] brooklynite Sep 2018 OP

Important. Must read. Achilleaze Sep 2018 #1

Good credentials major debacle Sep 2018 #2

Change the Headline DownriverDem Sep 2018 #147

+1. This is a "Declaration," not a "deposition." nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #186

Wow! manor321 Sep 2018 #3

K&R... spanone Sep 2018 #4

Is there more? Renew Deal Sep 2018 #5

There is one more page blaze Sep 2018 #15

Damn! triron Sep 2018 #18

Got it. here it is... Renew Deal Sep 2018 #19

Thank you!! nt blaze Sep 2018 #31

Drugged and gang raped. OMG. honest.abe Sep 2018 #33

An earlier woman, I think the fourth accuser mentioned gang rapes. Blue_true Sep 2018 #65

Yes, I think her name is Ramirez. honest.abe Sep 2018 #68

Caution. She saw this at "many of these parties"? Hortensis Sep 2018 #44

"Did no one ever call the police or tell parents or school authorities?" honest.abe Sep 2018 #60

Exactly MountCleaners Sep 2018 #63

As a girl I can say, gang rape "normal"? No. Hortensis Sep 2018 #75

Well maybe "normal" was probably bad choice of words. honest.abe Sep 2018 #83

Bingo. If that's what people in their groups did... Hortensis Sep 2018 #88

Agreed. Gang rape would never be "ok" with any female I've ever known. whathehell Sep 2018 #135

I used to go to a lot of college parties when I was barely in High School and we knew to watch out bettyellen Sep 2018 #174

It's no wonder Dr Ford didn't tell her parents! Cha Sep 2018 #198

And he WANTS to belong to a club like that? LisaM Sep 2018 #200

That bastard is shredded now. He is done. Blue_true Sep 2018 #62

O.M.G. calimary Sep 2018 #64

Well, that pretty much takes care of the "I was a virgin through high school and far beyond" shit. Frustratedlady Sep 2018 #79

As to "you're fired," Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #133

There has to be some method of removal. Frustratedlady Sep 2018 #152

Impeachment is the process. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #196

She's being very careful: she's saying they were at the party Recursion Sep 2018 #122

Left click DownriverDem Sep 2018 #162

OK, THIS will stick!! Avenatti is turning out to be our best friend mainer Sep 2018 #6

I know the doubting of him was getting irritating gabeana Sep 2018 #10

mmm, yes. At the same time, it is good to maintain some skepticism. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #30

The term "ambulance chaser" was coined watoos Sep 2018 #58

No, it was not. From Wiktionary: mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2018 #73

I think it was meant in reference to Rudy calling him an "ambulance chaser" ... winstars Sep 2018 #80

Thank you watoos Sep 2018 #121

Rudy might have called him that a bit earlier but its getting blurry... rollercoaster ride!!! winstars Sep 2018 #132

Charles Pierce used the phrase in his essay. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #157

I can't think of a single other lawyer who has championed women more than Avenatti lunatica Sep 2018 #102

Yes, he does treat women like human beings! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #204

Certainly it's good to try to remain objective. But THIS??? Jesus Mary and Joseph... calimary Sep 2018 #109

Sorry I didn't refer enough to that point. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #205

Exactly. calimary Sep 2018 #207

I *crave* seeing that. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #208

I agree. Duppers Sep 2018 #47

That's some strong optimism. Nothing will stick with Republicans. OliverQ Sep 2018 #49

Have to agree justie18 Sep 2018 #78

So glad that she came out when she did RockaFowler Sep 2018 #7

He was lying through his teeth! smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #28

This is powerful. honest.abe Sep 2018 #8

The KGOP republicans need to suspend the hearing and get FBI to investigate Achilleaze Sep 2018 #20

None of this was on Kavanaugh's calendar leftstreet Sep 2018 #9

I know this is a very serious story, but thanks for that laugh, I needed it :) nt jezebel321 Sep 2018 #27

"Beach Week" sure was Jersey Devil Sep 2018 #35

Yeah - his favorite time of year. Big deep sea fishing fan no doubt. klook Sep 2018 #130

Ah, but it was trc Sep 2018 #38

Kavanaugh wasn't at any of those parties. Check BootinUp Sep 2018 #11

He was with his parents, always in his choirboy suit. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #69

Once a Sexual Predator, ALWAYS a Sexual Predator..... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2018 #12

Julie Swetnick is the one Avenotti was talking about. Hortensis Sep 2018 #13

She is a HERO! nt reACTIONary Sep 2018 #89

Probably. As a security expert points out here, Hortensis Sep 2018 #111

Personally, I think we are way beyond the... reACTIONary Sep 2018 #137

We should be. Itm, the fourth estate is what we have, Hortensis Sep 2018 #141

Rut Rohh..........This lady has some strong creds........... Old Vet Sep 2018 #14

Whoa! Thank you! triron Sep 2018 #16

But is she a Democrat? durablend Sep 2018 #17

Here is the third page: demmiblue Sep 2018 #21

BOOM. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph... calimary Sep 2018 #101

These are very significant allegations DesertRat Sep 2018 #22

Third page.... ProudProgressiveNow Sep 2018 #23

Julie Swetnick mia Sep 2018 #24

Page 3 added brooklynite Sep 2018 #25

OMG. Page 3 is the worst. She states she was gang raped. PA Democrat Sep 2018 #29

It appears she was precise not to state that he raped her, he was "present" and helped drug them lostnfound Sep 2018 #84

She was incapacitated to the point that.... reACTIONary Sep 2018 #98

Right, she made the implication forgotmylogin Sep 2018 #178

I like judicial nominees who aren't alleged rapists.... reACTIONary Sep 2018 #179

More of the same. Kavanaugh is a serial sexual assaulter. democratisphere Sep 2018 #26

and LIAR vlyons Sep 2018 #66

ABSOLUTELY! democratisphere Sep 2018 #82

sounds like her story NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #32

+1, two different women with same story uponit7771 Sep 2018 #37

Not exactly corroborating specific accounts Hav Sep 2018 #45

No, it corroborate what Mark Judge's former girlfriend said. Blue_true Sep 2018 #76

These details sicken me. llmart Sep 2018 #34

Does he Plan a news conference along with submitting this document? FloridaBlues Sep 2018 #42

Avenatti was just on the phone on MSNBC with Craig Melvin going over the signed... brush Sep 2018 #87

Well if this doesn't kill Kavanaugh's appointment, we are totally doomed. KPN Sep 2018 #36

JFC! Kavanaugh and Judge are real pieces of shit, even if this is 10% true. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #39

Here's the Deposition in text form brooklynite Sep 2018 #40

Thanks, that is big help for this old gur who is not too computer literate. olegramps Sep 2018 #100

Major news outlets are slow to pick up this story major debacle Sep 2018 #41

I did find 4chan. They're outpacing us in # of posts, Hortensis Sep 2018 #50

Not any more. Your link show multiple news sources picking this up bigly. Why the doubt? Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #81

Evil Vile gordianot Sep 2018 #43

This is a Declaration....not a Deposition. AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #46

"begging for caution" WTF?? honest.abe Sep 2018 #53

LA times already has it. triron Sep 2018 #57

A lot of places have it...it's a tweet. AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #67

As does your previous allegation that all of Kavanuagh's information was available LanternWaste Sep 2018 #93

"..allegation that all of Kavanuagh's information was available" AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #105

she cites there are others who could corroborate nt Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #70

I read it before I made my 1st post....doesn't change my initial point. AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #86

I believe her BUT it opens up one major question grantcart Sep 2018 #112

Sworn decleration...the media will catch up...begging for caution is...strange. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #85

"sworn"..before whom? Avenatti? AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #96

Commissioner for Oaths? A notary? I imagine Aventti knows a few. I trust the lawyer to get Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #103

That's not shown on the Declaration though is it? AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #107

You discovered a top lawyer forgot to get an AFFADAVIT signed, witnessed and sworn? Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #115

What top lawyer? As i said above..I don't swallow Anenatti's tweets. AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #127

Under 28 USC Sec 1746 it is Equivalent to an Affidavit Stallion Sep 2018 #131

IF..making the Declaration is to, oh say.. Congress...yep AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #139

Not necessarily jberryhill Sep 2018 #154

What is the "status".....of the Declaration she gave Avenatti? AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #163

I dunno jberryhill Sep 2018 #167

Speaking as someone who was a notary for years - ET Awful Sep 2018 #126

Here in NY..I have to have my Notary stamp to the immediate right AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #128

You may do that, but the law does not require it. ET Awful Sep 2018 #143

The notarial thing is a red herring jberryhill Sep 2018 #153

I already stated that . . . maybe not as clearly. ET Awful Sep 2018 #160

I know. Not disputing it. AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #155

It doesn't matter who she made the declaration to. The fact that she signed it and stated that she ET Awful Sep 2018 #161

I refer you to jberryhill's post....re: you claim AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #166

That is irrelevant. ET Awful Sep 2018 #170

You're missing the point jberryhill Sep 2018 #176

Ummm. . . no. ET Awful Sep 2018 #182

" I'm going to presume you haven't handled many real legal proceedings. " jberryhill Sep 2018 #183

To be more specific..... jberryhill Sep 2018 #184

You are being intentionally obtuse and you know it. ET Awful Sep 2018 #185

No, I'm not jberryhill Sep 2018 #188

"This did NOT decrease the value or impact of the declaration." AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #189

It's being covered extensively on MSNBC right now. And the accuser signed the declaration... brush Sep 2018 #91

when a deposition is taken, who is the legal entity the deposed is under oath to? yodermon Sep 2018 #94

Nope-I'm a Federal Litigator and there is a Statute Authorizing Declarations Instead of Affidavit Stallion Sep 2018 #114

Having the fake issue now thoroughly debunked...will there be any mea culpas? Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #118

Just as a minor technical nit jberryhill Sep 2018 #140

"This is a statement that is not being made in any court proceeding or pursuant to any law,.." AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #148

Oh, I get your point jberryhill Sep 2018 #151

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2018 #48

JFC! fleur-de-lisa Sep 2018 #51

Ok. I will admit I was very skeptical of Avenetti on this Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #52

I wish her peace. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #54

Well he will put all those rejecting women and thier daughters in thier rightful place once he is on lunasun Sep 2018 #55

How devastating that she has to relive this. My heart goes out to her and other girls that were chowder66 Sep 2018 #56

holee shit NatBurner Sep 2018 #59

Exactly as I had hoped... KKKavanaugh is DONE!!! Feel so bad for these and ALL women InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #61

truth will be known RecoveringJournalist Sep 2018 #71

If this fucker don't go down... proglib217 Sep 2018 #72

calls out Kavanaugh on lie Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #74

Gang Raped! Brentar Sep 2018 #77

K&R burrowowl Sep 2018 #90

this is gut-wrenching NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #92

I hope she files charges against these assholes & puts them in jail where they belong FakeNoose Sep 2018 #95

Boys Being Boys, eh??? peggysue2 Sep 2018 #97

Thank you brooklyn, Ms. Swetnick and Mr. Avenatti saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #99

This is a declaration and not a depo Gothmog Sep 2018 #104

What is difference between a declaration and a deposition? honest.abe Sep 2018 #108

There is no functional difference Gothmog Sep 2018 #145

Great. Thanks for explanation! honest.abe Sep 2018 #146

Its the Equivalent of an Affidavit Filed in Federal Court Stallion Sep 2018 #117

The key is that the person making the declaration is subject to perjury Gothmog Sep 2018 #150

Horrific and stomach churning Pacifist Patriot Sep 2018 #106

How long before Kavanaugh withdraws from being a Supreme Court Nominee? Botany Sep 2018 #110

After trump claimed he is such a good man duforsure Sep 2018 #113

Wow! LAS14 Sep 2018 #116

Is a Declaration the same as a Deposition? Do they carry the same weight or import? NurseJackie Sep 2018 #119

None of this will matter. Kavanaugh will be voted in. Oneironaut Sep 2018 #120

Sending some positive vibes your way. watoos Sep 2018 #123

I used to be positive. Then I realized I was constantly wrong. Oneironaut Sep 2018 #125

I am sickened handmade34 Sep 2018 #124

I am floored that this creep doesn't have the decency to step aside. I has in HS at the exact same Pepsidog Sep 2018 #129

If you did observe people drugging and raping women multiple times would you have reported it ? MichMan Sep 2018 #134

I would have stopped it. Pepsidog Sep 2018 #173

Food for thought . . . . moreland01 Sep 2018 #136

I wondered that also MichMan Sep 2018 #142

This man is a creep and a criminal, along his sidekick Mark Judge. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #138

But it's OK, folks, cos Brett believes in Jesus ! OnDoutside Sep 2018 #144

K&R! Omaha Steve Sep 2018 #149

Kavanaugh is a monster... airmid Sep 2018 #156

This is so disturbing. Even if not a participant, what sort of monster stands by and does Glimmer of Hope Sep 2018 #158

That is a very valid point. llmart Sep 2018 #165

Ms. Swetnick for one jberryhill Sep 2018 #168

My question is not regarding Ms. Swetnick's behavior or any other women. It is the men Glimmer of Hope Sep 2018 #172

Oh okay, I misunderstood you jberryhill Sep 2018 #175

And did nothing....until this declaration to her attorney... AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #192

Did she do anything prior to a declaration to her Lawyer yeterday? AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #193

I think you need to take into account her experiences Glimmer of Hope Sep 2018 #194

No..I don't. Would you stand by and say nothing? AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #195

No one would have believed her back then treestar Sep 2018 #202

Then file charges in Maryland now...the metrics have changed with Me Too being a deal now AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #206

We need a male participant to come forward karin_sj Sep 2018 #159

I'd settle for "I was there and saw Ilsa Sep 2018 #169

Definitely! karin_sj Sep 2018 #171

Holy Mother of God. I hope this woman's career is not over by the end of the year. nt Hekate Sep 2018 #164

Deposition? You mean Declaration... Pachamama Sep 2018 #177

It does not say he raped anyone torius Sep 2018 #180

That's true...she says they spiked punch & such. And she saw them "in line" for the gang rapes. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #187

Be forewarned Laura in LA Sep 2018 #181

That's odd, I havent heard these anywhere but from you. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #190

Not sure my last post showed. They're the right-wing talking points on MSNBC. NFM Laura in LA Sep 2018 #191

Looks like they're trying to Cha Sep 2018 #199

GOP isnt the only one blaming her Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #201

I certainly haven't heard Dems blame Ms. Swetnick. And Avenatti directly Laura in LA Sep 2018 #203

Please see post #195. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2018 #197