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ZombieHorde

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16. When you say "everyone," do you really mean everyone?

Reply to Voice for Peace (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:17 AM

Aug 2012

All people, of all ages, everywhere in the world?

Or do you mean just some people should be allowed to vote?

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Opinions of the mentally disabled/ill voting [View all] DisabledDem Aug 2012 OP

If you're equating "mentally ill" with "mentally incompetent" your argument is already broken. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #1

Well, both groups have been discriminated by many states of this country. DisabledDem Aug 2012 #2

The Tea Party can vote. Downwinder Aug 2012 #3

And you're equating "mentally ill" with "conservative" so your argument's broken too. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #9

No. I'm equating Tea Party with mentally ill. Downwinder Aug 2012 #10

So you're making a slightly different stupid, stigmatizing argument. Nice. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #12

I suspect that you have never had the experience of dealing with a truly mentally ill person slackmaster Aug 2012 #46

Tea Party = mentally ill by definition. Zalatix Aug 2012 #18

Whose definition? Which specific disorder? Posteritatis Aug 2012 #25

I'll let the "idiots" at UC Berkeley and Stanford answer that. Zalatix Aug 2012 #28

That's a set of personality traits, not diagnostic of any recognized mental illness slackmaster Aug 2012 #54

Wrong. Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #47

I would say that pipi_k Aug 2012 #63

Hell, just look at people in this thread treating "mentally ill" as one uniform group. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #69

What a disgusting and bigoted post. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #14

Not at all. Zalatix Aug 2012 #20

By that reasoning 95% of everyone is insane. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #22

Which is why, as I said above, it isn't reason to deny someone voting rights. Zalatix Aug 2012 #23

actually, that's called opinion, not fact. cali Aug 2012 #27

Perhaps you'll want to read a few more uneducated opinions about this... Zalatix Aug 2012 #30

Nothing there about illness muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #40

The use of said opinion in this thread suggests it's uneducated, too. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #60

everyone should be allowed to vote. Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #4

When you say "everyone," do you really mean everyone? ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #16

lol Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #41

Mentally ill and mentally disabled are two different things. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #5

I'm well aware of the two differences. DisabledDem Aug 2012 #6

That they did Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #8

The mentally disabled vote in Georgia unapatriciated Aug 2012 #82

my wife works with people with various degrees of mental disabilities madrchsod Aug 2012 #7

I have a neighbor who is very high functioning. Lugnut Aug 2012 #13

The state I live in does not allow anyone who is under guardianship to vote. Thus one has to be jwirr Aug 2012 #11

I'd be really curious to see how that would stand up in court OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #34

I have thought about that but have never pursued it because I think what you would see is a lot of jwirr Aug 2012 #42

Varies by state susanr516 Aug 2012 #70

I know a young woman with Downs Syndrome who votes. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #15

I agree that guardianship should not automatically disenfranchise someone susanr516 Aug 2012 #72

I think "we" should clearly state why we think some people can, but not other people. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #17

10 year olds can't vote because there is an age mandate in the Constitution. (nt) OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #35

We have lifted other voting mandates in the Constitution. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #53

The Twenty-Sixth Amendment guarentees the minimum age cannot be lower than 18 NoPasaran Aug 2012 #55

Not allowing prisoners to vote is wrong. Zalatix Aug 2012 #36

Well in the case of my daughter - she is severely disabled and would be considered about 6 months jwirr Aug 2012 #43

I think the question is whether they can do it on their own davidpdx Aug 2012 #19

Like such as this? DisabledDem Aug 2012 #24

That's an interesting article davidpdx Aug 2012 #29

I felt those Republicans pushing Dubya brother should never be allowed to help the mentally disabled DisabledDem Aug 2012 #59

If they can buy a gun they should be able to vote. DonRedwood Aug 2012 #21

Why open the can at all? The franchise is the franchise. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #26

I agree the physical disabilities really are not an issue davidpdx Aug 2012 #31

If you are 18 and not a felon - you can vote. OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #32

I would love that but what would you do with my daughter who is totally incapable of making life jwirr Aug 2012 #49

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney and one should get qualified legal advice pertaining to their state OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #58

Are you researching new ways to purge voters? thecrow Aug 2012 #33

I'm not the GOP, so my answer to that question is no. DisabledDem Aug 2012 #37

Good question. It is why I haven't recced this thread. Zalatix Aug 2012 #38

Large swathes of this site treat the mentally ill as a hated monolith, so wouldn't surprise me. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #62

there are millions of people in all walks of life and from political persuasion who suffer some Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #39

Personally... 99Forever Aug 2012 #44

There's a monolithic "they" there, now? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #61

Yes there is. 99Forever Aug 2012 #66

And one more person on the "no clue what they're talking about" list. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #68

Ahh gee... 99Forever Aug 2012 #76

Tough question. slackmaster Aug 2012 #45

Really? hedgehog Aug 2012 #48

Watch out, everybody! I'm bipolar, and I vote!! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #50

Unfortunately in at least one small county in Iowa my brother and sister-in-law do not vote due to jwirr Aug 2012 #51

That would be a good way around dealing with the people running the show. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #52

DANGER, DANGER!!! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #73

Tee hee! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #74

Haha DisabledDem Aug 2012 #75

Who gets to decide who's incompetent? Progressive dog Aug 2012 #56

Only a court of law can do that slackmaster Aug 2012 #57

Then they can stil vote nt Progressive dog Aug 2012 #64

Yes they can. In my experience, getting someone declared incompetent is a very high legal hurdle. slackmaster Aug 2012 #65

A democracy is supposed to represent ALL the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #67

If they are able to vote, yes they should...AFTERALL it is the programs that jillan Aug 2012 #71

No, they shouldn't vote? WTF are you asking? Quantess Aug 2012 #77

A lot of people think "mentally ill" and "conservative" or "evil" or whatnot are synonymous Posteritatis Aug 2012 #78

Good grief, of course I think that is wrong! Quantess Aug 2012 #79

Yep. Should be going in that direction, instead of further restricting the franchise Posteritatis Aug 2012 #80

Agreed. Now, where is the OP? Quantess Aug 2012 #81