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jazzcat23

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96. YES

Reply to Shoonra (Reply #92)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:36 PM

Sep 2018

We really need to get him back, he rarely backed down from the goopers. (GOP'ers) and we need that now!

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Al Franken was forced out of the Senate [View all] madaboutharry Sep 2018 OP

We can thank our own side for what happened to Al. FiveGoodMen Sep 2018 #1

+1000 OnDoutside Sep 2018 #12

Yes. It's especially galling right now when we need every powerful voice on Kavanaugh. NT enough Sep 2018 #15

Would love to have Al question Kavanagh (wouldn't we all?)! maddiemom Sep 2018 #87

**cough** **cough* UpInArms Sep 2018 #173

+ 1 ChiTownDenny Sep 2018 #39

yep samnsara Sep 2018 #64

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #102

The right wing set up a trap dflprincess Sep 2018 #174

He was forced out by Democrats Cartoonist Sep 2018 #2

taking the high road always leads to political hell elmac Sep 2018 #18

Actually it was Women's groups Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #119

Uh oh. SergeStorms Sep 2018 #148

It was? That's news I haven't heard before. Can you elaborate? KPN Sep 2018 #178

Not really Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #180

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #166

Hard to say Cartoonist Sep 2018 #171

The World Is Exactly The Way They Want It LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #3

Good analogy. maddiemom Sep 2018 #89

Kavanaugh AND Thomas! manor321 Sep 2018 #4

Sadly, it looks like Kavanaugh will be joining "long dong silver" G_j Sep 2018 #19

Still angry about it. badhair77 Sep 2018 #5

Me too eom MoonRiver Sep 2018 #6

Not to mention SHITLER the serial predator squatting in the White House. UTUSN Sep 2018 #7

Point of clarification BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #8

No, Franken CHOSE to quit dawg day Sep 2018 #9

He chose to quit AFTER his Democratic co workers went after him. Autumn Sep 2018 #11

Exactly, 38 of his Senate colleagues led by a NY Senator, demanded he resign. He was left with OnDoutside Sep 2018 #13

Resigning was the only option they left him. Autumn Sep 2018 #14

Yes they went to his office and held a gun to his head Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #112

Maybe in your world. Fact is that members of his "team" left him no choice but to resign. Autumn Sep 2018 #114

How? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #116

Working with people who are insisting you resign is so the thing to do. Autumn Sep 2018 #118

People can insist that you to do anything Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #120

He probably decided he could no longer be effective. femmedem Sep 2018 #129

Most can. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #132

Kirstin Gillibrand thought she was launching a presidential bid by leading the charge Still In Wisconsin Sep 2018 #17

On what basis do you say that a prospective Gillibrand Presidential bid is thwarted? brooklynite Sep 2018 #43

I'm not saying she can't or won't run because of this. My point was that I think Still In Wisconsin Sep 2018 #78

Add my 2cents to yours. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #93

Again what proof do you have for that? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #115

Did you not read this part of what I wrote? Still In Wisconsin Sep 2018 #126

Opinions are usually based on facts Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #128

My magic 8-ball and my Ouija board. Still In Wisconsin Sep 2018 #141

LOL!!! nt Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #150

Posted without comment: #146 hlthe2b Sep 2018 #149

Read your own post Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #151

Stop the strawmen arguments. I said nothing of the kind. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #156

Not a strawman argument Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #164

Kirsten Gillibrand Pays The Price For Speaking Out Against Al Franken: 08/03/18 HuffPo hlthe2b Sep 2018 #146

That's exactly what she zentrum Sep 2018 #71

How do you know that? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #121

What proof do you have of that? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #113

Indeed, "Why do we eat our own?" I'm with you & the OP on this, Still in Wisconsin Hekate Sep 2018 #123

Please list the 27 other dems. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #27

More than half of all Democratic Senators called for him to step down. But only one will MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #31

Corey Booker for one, Chuck Schumer for another LakeArenal Sep 2018 #33

Booker is already getting on my nerves. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #40

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2018 #56

Bookmarketing. maddiemom Sep 2018 #88

Also, atlas disndat Sep 2018 #105

Well, he's not a Democratic Senator ... Bernie Sanders called for him to resign SFnomad Sep 2018 #49

It's in the public record Hekate Sep 2018 #125

By NY Senator I assume Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #110

You are so right, Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #36

Keep saying it. I for one will NEVER buy it. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #30

It's a rare day when Republicans gang up on one of their own. VOX Sep 2018 #75

Don't even try that tired argument. He was forced out by a Gillibrand-led pack. brush Sep 2018 #83

No just a tired argument Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #122

Wrong! Gillebrand was the first one to come out against Franken. I heard her interviewed on radio... brush Sep 2018 #133

No that is wrong Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #136

I know what I heard. Both Franken and Clinton were part of the interview. brush Sep 2018 #139

Then you imagined it Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #142

You have no idea what you're talking about. Gillibrand even doubled down on it on "The View"... brush Sep 2018 #152

Sorry Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #162

Is there a language problem? You have no idea of what radio interview I heard. You may have heard... brush Sep 2018 #168

So which one were you referring to. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #172

True too. mahina Sep 2018 #107

Well said!!! nt Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #108

Always remember. The Republicans will put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court Autumn Sep 2018 #10

It's very hard to forget that some formerly great Dems cut out Al's heart . lark Sep 2018 #20

Or they did it because they thought it was the right thing to do at the time. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #32

How could they think it was right? lark Sep 2018 #95

They were looking at eight separate allegations. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #103

What really happened Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #127

Including my favorite, by a woman who wanted a photo with him calimary Sep 2018 #155

How do you define effective? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #124

This is pay back for Bush vs. Gore Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #38

IOKIYAAR* Still In Wisconsin Sep 2018 #16

Dems Were Conned dlk Sep 2018 #21

No, Al Franken quit Progressive dog Sep 2018 #22

He was facing a shunning. madaboutharry Sep 2018 #23

That's how see it, too. zeusdogmom Sep 2018 #24

There was no "Shunning", the Senate is not a cult. Progressive dog Sep 2018 #26

Hahaha. Funny. Not a cult. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #37

Franken was elected to the seat Progressive dog Sep 2018 #45

You can keep saying that if you like. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #54

You can blame anyone you like Progressive dog Sep 2018 #57

This is no attack and you know it. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #68

Using a resigned Democrat Progressive dog Sep 2018 #70

Then alert on me. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #72

Not worth the effort Progressive dog Sep 2018 #77

Spent an hour disparaging my opinion LakeArenal Sep 2018 #79

Nope, don't care enough Progressive dog Sep 2018 #80

Potato patato. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #85

Opinion is not fact. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #137

I don't have to validate to you an opinion supported by over 100 people on this thread LakeArenal Sep 2018 #153

Once millions of people thought the Earth was flat. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #163

We'll continue to target the ringleader, Gillibrand. That kind of gullible naivete in falling... brush Sep 2018 #86

Thanks. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #154

So now Democratic Senators are a "ring" Progressive dog Sep 2018 #184

The only ignorance evident is yours of what happened. brush Sep 2018 #185

Guess facts don't matter to some Progressive dog Sep 2018 #186

Still not getting it. He apologized for taking a gag photo, not for groping her. brush Sep 2018 #187

You are still having trouble understanding Progressive dog Sep 2018 #188

Ok, keep thinking that. Gillibrand still won't get close to the nomination... brush Sep 2018 #189

Just so I understand you dflprincess Sep 2018 #175

Exactly correct Progressive dog Sep 2018 #183

Belief is not fact. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #135

Okay then. I take it all back. Not. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #157

That's mature. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #165

He lost the confidence and support of his coalition. murielm99 Sep 2018 #28

Shunning? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #131

that's not the way politics really works. unblock Sep 2018 #41

That is way over the top. Progressive dog Sep 2018 #50

my point is that a lot of the power of a senator comes from the respect and cooperation of others unblock Sep 2018 #60

Senators earn respect, it's not given to them Progressive dog Sep 2018 #65

actually, he did try to recover that respect unblock Sep 2018 #66

I missed the part where Franken tried to recover Progressive dog Sep 2018 #69

i get that you think he didn't fight for his job well, but what do you think he *should* have done? unblock Sep 2018 #73

The problem is not Fanken's resignation Progressive dog Sep 2018 #76

+1000 Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #25

Al Franken admitted culpability and, rightfully, resigned Tarc Sep 2018 #29

I just don't see how people could rationalize things any other way. Blue_true Sep 2018 #42

It's easy. You mischaracterize the allegations down to nothing and dismiss those mythology Sep 2018 #46

Yep. I regularly see that. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #59

I'm so.pissed.off!!!!!!!!!!!!! workinclasszero Sep 2018 #34

We are not a democracy anymore or a nation of laws. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #35

Franken: "I apologize"...Kavanaugh: "I deny it" brooklynite Sep 2018 #44

Also the number of accusers mythology Sep 2018 #47

But some of the accusations were downright ludicrous. My favorite was that Al Vinca Sep 2018 #48

Sad but true thegoose Sep 2018 #51

He was schumered mikeysnot Sep 2018 #52

I thought his book came out way before this whole stupid tragic series of non-events. mahina Sep 2018 #109

Read it mikeysnot Sep 2018 #134

Roger. That's a damn shame. mahina Sep 2018 #169

Just to save a minute if you were checking, the book was published in May 2017 and the BS storm mahina Sep 2018 #111

Of course he was ailsagirl Sep 2018 #53

I've said it many times... Al was forced out because he didn't defend himself Azathoth Sep 2018 #55

Yeah, sort of. Clearly leanne is a liar, works with and for rightwing filth Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #62

I think Al did asked for a hearing. disndat Sep 2018 #117

An ethics hearing is not due process Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #140

Franken took one for the team Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #138

We expect more from Democrats. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #58

And Clinton's nominees forced to drop out for failing to report undocumented employees ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2018 #61

Kavanaugh is bought and paid for by Trump and the GOP. Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #63

Ha! I was waiting for the predictable on this thread, and was not disappointed DFW Sep 2018 #67

Some wanted to burnish The Wizard Sep 2018 #74

What proof do you have Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #143

Don't forget it started with Roger Stone ratf*cking (via Leann Tweeden) cp Sep 2018 #81

AND...jim jordan still sits in congress spanone Sep 2018 #82

People need to quit bitching about Franken and move on pintobean Sep 2018 #84

No. We need to continue to speak up about the hypocrisy. Remember, it was the Dems who took YOHABLO Sep 2018 #90

No. We need to continue to speak up about the hypocrisy. Remember, it was the Dems who took YOHABLO Sep 2018 #91

Because that will really be helpful pintobean Sep 2018 #94

Time to forgive Al ..... Shoonra Sep 2018 #92

YES jazzcat23 Sep 2018 #96

Unfortunately, this is NOT what was discussed back then between ranking D members. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #98

Good post! Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #145

I remember who the leaders of the pack were proglib217 Sep 2018 #97

I will never forget. Nor will I ever forgive. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #100

You got that right. It wasn't about those allegations at all. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #101

What proof do you have of any of that? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #147

This. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #161

And none of that proves your allegations Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #167

Sure it is. It's basic deduction. Starting with...there was no sexual harassment. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #176

Not deduction, assumption. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #179

+1000! Excellent post, thank you! scarletwoman Sep 2018 #170

republican hypocrisy liberal N proud Sep 2018 #104

Very true and deeply regretted right here. mahina Sep 2018 #106

I see more people on DU jumping to Kavanaugh's defense RandySF Sep 2018 #130

Nobody's defending Kavanaugh... brooklynite Sep 2018 #158

defense? qazplm135 Sep 2018 #177

You'll get no argument from me on that. SergeStorms Sep 2018 #144

And Jim Jordan hits the campaign trail in his bid for Speaker of the House and Autumn Sep 2018 #159

This what you get when there is no democratic government . Only Charles and David geretogo Sep 2018 #160

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #181

It was because of our own female Senators who called him out onetexan Sep 2018 #182