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BadGimp

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42. [shakes head]

Reply to Vinnie From Indy (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:14 PM

Sep 2018

imo, most people have no frickin idea what's coming in the way of jobs eliminated by software and machines driven by software...

I've read credible articles that estimate 25-35% of all jobs we see today will be eliminated in 10 years.

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Stopped in a local McDonalds today for coffee, an employee was miffed I didn't use their new kiosk [View all] Vinnie From Indy Sep 2018 OP

Like bank tellers pushing online banking, workers are required to promote corporate initiatives. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #1

I went to LabCorp, and they were doing the same thing. While faster, it will eliminate a job or two. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #111

Like CVS Pharmacy DownriverDem Sep 2018 #173

I take my grandson to a McDonald's with automated system and always order at the counter. dem4decades Sep 2018 #2

because the workers are being forced to "encourage" you trixie2 Sep 2018 #174

If I wanted to press buttons to get my coffee Farmer-Rick Sep 2018 #186

As much as I am not a fan of McDonald's, I still love a large coffee for a buck. dem4decades Sep 2018 #187

And they have pretty good coffee, if they make it fresh Farmer-Rick Sep 2018 #191

My usual grocery store went completely to self checkout. cashiers were there to help you figure out wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #3

are the prices any lower? flygal Sep 2018 #8

Well I know at the local Bi-Los that it has not resulted in lower prices cstanleytech Sep 2018 #22

Bi-Lo has gotten ridiculous since they were bought by Southeastern Grocers. GoCubsGo Sep 2018 #100

Yup. The problem that Bi-Lo as well as Food Lion and a number of other grocery store cstanleytech Sep 2018 #101

Our grocery store put the automated kiosks in about 5 years ago. Ace Rothstein Sep 2018 #10

I don't know about thelft. Blue_true Sep 2018 #52

Walmart is slowly phasing out the self check-outs... Callmecrazy Sep 2018 #131

That would be my ex-grocery store. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #13

Change? alphafemale Sep 2018 #94

I prefer cash. Too each his(or her) own I guess GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #95

my problem with check out at grocery stores is that they want you to use plastic bags scarytomcat Sep 2018 #122

Plastic bags are banned some places BBG Sep 2018 #136

I think Kroger is phasing out plastic bags, too. Hoorah for them. Something that made me japple Sep 2018 #178

Fresh & Easy LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #40

If we all started stealing as much as possible with this, maybe they'd change their ways gilpo Sep 2018 #48

In the future there will be a huge computer, a man and a vicious dog onit2day Sep 2018 #175

This hasn't happened in my local chain in the Midwest. cab67 Sep 2018 #134

I'm so old that I remember when they'd unload your grocery cart for you OMGWTF Sep 2018 #169

My eldest son recently moved to Florida and he opened up his bank account, all online. He never had monmouth4 Sep 2018 #4

Yeah, and like my son I bet he's scared to talk to strangers DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #44

No, not at all. n/t monmouth4 Sep 2018 #99

A couple of years ago someone drove from NY to LA and never talked to a single person as a trial grantcart Sep 2018 #57

I like my ability to deposit checks by taking a picture of them crazycatlady Sep 2018 #123

I've used USAA as my bank for 25 years. Never been in a branch JDC Sep 2018 #154

I never ever use self checkout in the Grocery Store or the Big Box stores. sellitman Sep 2018 #5

Ditto. I refuse. sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #49

There's a manager/supervisor type that tries to get me to use the self checkout and each time I say TeamPooka Sep 2018 #85

Right? I don't get why people want to do all of that stuff for themselves, ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #102

Wa Wa's is the worse for that I almost had a stroke in that store. Oppaloopa Sep 2018 #143

I Was In A Grocery Store RobinA Sep 2018 #146

Excellent reply! sellitman Sep 2018 #184

You can't check out liquor at the self serves wryter2000 Sep 2018 #89

Lowes did that to me. I had a mixed bunch of crap, was tired, asked for a register, they refused. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #112

Reminds me of going to one of my bank's branches area51 Sep 2018 #6

Who would have thought that people have aesthetic value?! DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #45

I always skip past The automation to talk to flesh and blood people when I can MrScorpio Sep 2018 #7

The Mickey D's here in LittleGirl Sep 2018 #9

When I visit France and anywhere in Europe for that matter. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #15

I agree, GulfCoast66. Grammy23 Sep 2018 #26

We are off to Venice and Germany next month. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #34

We went to Italy in 2002 and loved it. Grammy23 Sep 2018 #39

Y'all have fun. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #43

Cool, I hear Viking LittleGirl Sep 2018 #72

my aunt and uncle did that river cruise thing OriginalGeek Sep 2018 #125

Yep. You're in another country, eat their normal food. Blue_true Sep 2018 #54

Yep, I agree LittleGirl Sep 2018 #74

Absolutely. In the 80s, I was on a tour through Europe MineralMan Sep 2018 #115

Damn you!! Now I want a croque madame for lunch!! GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #119

That sounds good, too. MineralMan Sep 2018 #120

Yes, bit for those of American ex-pats SoCalNative Sep 2018 #133

Same in Amsterdam SoCalNative Sep 2018 #132

Tell them you are dyslexic. safeinOhio Sep 2018 #11

I figure for each cashier they lose Gore1FL Sep 2018 #12

They'll all be replaced by robots in short order as well. JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #16

Exactly. The gains are shorterm. Blue_true Sep 2018 #58

Nope Midnightwalk Sep 2018 #23

What is gained in cost savings is lost in shopping quality DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #46

You are wrong. I have actual experience. Blue_true Sep 2018 #63

Are you agreeing? Midnightwalk Sep 2018 #87

Sorry, I may have replied to the wrong post. Blue_true Sep 2018 #155

Agree Midnightwalk Sep 2018 #168

Excellent points. Blue_true Sep 2018 #181

Again: DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #152

Read below Midnightwalk Sep 2018 #165

I am betting on a train wreck. Blue_true Sep 2018 #182

IT officer here. They still have to pay programmers whether cashiers or bank tellers are used. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #114

back end question Midnightwalk Sep 2018 #118

She never thought about losing her own job? Amazing. brush Sep 2018 #14

Awwww LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #38

They are sold amazing bullshit about how much easier it will make their job. Blue_true Sep 2018 #60

I worked for a company that was briefly responsible for installing the kiosks. From what initially seaglass Sep 2018 #129

Me too Freddie Sep 2018 #144

Intelligent robots will reduce employment to 5-15%. Blue_true Sep 2018 #17

Did you insist she calculate your total by hand? DrDan Sep 2018 #18

Automation was supposed to free us up from work elmac Sep 2018 #19

Ah! I agree! DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #47

Automation owners won't share the financial gain, they will get people to vote for a Trump. Blue_true Sep 2018 #66

Thank you! You are, sadly, quite correct! DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #153

Once, we needed technology to survive. But now? VOX Sep 2018 #116

No different than when I worked shortly at a bank... Xolodno Sep 2018 #20

Many years ago one of the tellers at my bank instructed me to use the machine for my transaction Hekate Sep 2018 #21

I walked into a local credit union to JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #25

wrecked her day KayF Sep 2018 #167

If you want to see bjvom Sep 2018 #24

The Automation Song JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #27

The great Phil Ochs, may he rest in peace DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #51

Vinnie From Indy is so serious about automation True Dough Sep 2018 #28

Airports are now doing this too. Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #29

The one that drives me up the wall . . . Roadside Attraction Sep 2018 #41

I hate those, too csziggy Sep 2018 #62

You mean the Freestyle machine? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #84

is that the one that does like 5000 types of soda flavors? TeamPooka Sep 2018 #157

I'm more shocked that the employee didn't realise she was hastening her own procon Sep 2018 #30

Well said! And which Democratic politicians are addressing this? DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #53

I worked for a tax preparers office apkhgp Sep 2018 #31

You have my sympathy, but... Adrahil Sep 2018 #55

Me too. But I was phased out years ago (bookkeeping). I Luz Sep 2018 #97

You went from bookkeeping to janitorial? DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #156

I have worked for ICE, DOD, Homeland security and now for Luz Sep 2018 #170

We stopped at one today, too. woodsprite Sep 2018 #32

The Airport RobinA Sep 2018 #151

The automation was supposed to be good. There used to be articles in Popular Science and brewens Sep 2018 #33

It's good for the bottom line. Kablooie Sep 2018 #35

Plenty Of Stupid & Ignorant Americans LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #36

Recent WashPost article Roadside Attraction Sep 2018 #37

[shakes head] BadGimp Sep 2018 #42

The Giant Eagle automated checkout voice is RUDE and PUSHY! raging moderate Sep 2018 #50

I had that exact same conversation FoxNewsSucks Sep 2018 #56

Automation may cost jobs but LostinRed Sep 2018 #59

If you don't mind me asking JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #67

Yes I work LostinRed Sep 2018 #138

I assume you don't use automatic tellers either??? USALiberal Sep 2018 #61

I'm sure the buggy whip industry raised a similar stink in 1890 or so as well. Tarc Sep 2018 #64

Thanks for this, people don't understand how technology works. Nt USALiberal Sep 2018 #104

That's The Damn Truth RobinA Sep 2018 #149

Yep. progressoid Sep 2018 #137

We are becoming alienated... DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #65

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on William Morris and cottage industry DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #70

UBI is part of our future. Adrahil Sep 2018 #77

Ironically, I think automation will help get us there unblock Sep 2018 #80

Taking orders at McDonalds isn't exactly "creative work". meadowlander Sep 2018 #86

So legislate the f'k out of the chain stores. DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #159

We've been automating and improving productivity for ages yet there are still jobs unblock Sep 2018 #68

See above directly above DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #71

I wonder how many on this thread filled their DrDan Sep 2018 #69

See my comments about Marx and Wm. Morris above DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #73

Let me explain: I made a statement about alienation.... DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #75

... and because you don't.... DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #79

There's a popular graphic knocking the $15 minimum showing those kiosks Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #76

I had the opposite reaction from a chase banker recently Tiggeroshii Sep 2018 #78

OK, I'm quitting Facebook and DU. DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #81

Wait... spoke too soon... one person did respond way above. DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #82

My neice is a shift manager at McDonalds. She says they are always short on staff doc03 Sep 2018 #83

They drug test at McDonalds! fescuerescue Sep 2018 #166

They do here nt doc03 Sep 2018 #179

Maybe she wasn't planning to spend the rest of her life working at McDonalds meadowlander Sep 2018 #88

I'm more annoyed that now I have to wait for my coffee order Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #90

I worked at a place where the employees were required to train some folks from India workinclasszero Sep 2018 #91

It's a mixed bag and when I don't have many items I will use automation. TexasTowelie Sep 2018 #92

In a supermarket in England iwillalwayswonderwhy Sep 2018 #93

I went through the same thing with a girl at walmart blueinredohio Sep 2018 #96

"Anyone who pays for more than half of their stuff in self checkout is a total moron" dalton99a Sep 2018 #126

I don't understand how people can live their lives with their heads in the sand (Trump voter). Vinca Sep 2018 #98

I mean, it's unfortunate for the people losing jobs, but automation isn't going to stop. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #103

Like the Borg..... Self-respecting towns BLOCK chain stores from their downtowns. DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #161

Do you use ATMs? Nt USALiberal Sep 2018 #105

I have never used an ATM in my life... louis c Sep 2018 #108

Interesting. Well, technology will always change the workforce. No stopping it. Nt USALiberal Sep 2018 #109

We all use ATMs and pump our own gas JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #110

I don't louis c Sep 2018 #113

That's nice but JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #117

You cannot stop progress.... USALiberal Sep 2018 #121

No you can't. But JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #141

I do, but I haven't noticed any decrease in the number of tellers working in the bank. Vinca Sep 2018 #142

It took 2 people to run the kiosk at the McD's in Augusta Maine jpak Sep 2018 #106

I try to never, ever use automated services. louis c Sep 2018 #107

Those kiosks are a pain in the ass to use. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #124

At the McDonald's near me BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #127

I never use the automated checkouts because I strongly believe Golden Raisin Sep 2018 #128

There are some days I *really* appreciate self-check out. forgotmylogin Sep 2018 #130

If automation ultimately improves her situation, then it is a positive. Jim__ Sep 2018 #135

I used to love to watch the show "How It's Made" on TLC, Qutzupalotl Sep 2018 #139

I always use the drive thru at those places... Adrahil Sep 2018 #140

My daughter's Safeway has had 4 self check out stands for several years. Old Crank Sep 2018 #145

Perhaps not everyone working at McDonalds is looking to Jose Garcia Sep 2018 #147

I don't work there, so I'm not going to process their order for them.nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2018 #148

I refuse to use them, i go to person everytime, everyone should. sunonmars Sep 2018 #150

I refuse to use those kiosks, or self-checkout at stores, or anything that replaces a human Rabrrrrrr Sep 2018 #158

There used to be a bank in my grocery store. panader0 Sep 2018 #160

Do you avoid wheat threshed by those satanic automated threshers? Recursion Sep 2018 #162

Yes, and I only wear clothes made from hand-picked, hand-spun cotton knitted by an actual person meadowlander Sep 2018 #177

People should not fight to keep jobs alive that are no longer relevant ThirdEye Sep 2018 #163

For me, it's often about speed. I do enjoy using the kiosks. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #164

I hate the kiosks.. cannabis_flower Sep 2018 #171

That's pretty funny/sad matt819 Sep 2018 #172

I'm terms of payroll, it adds up quick. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #192

Tax and robot bill Bear Creek Sep 2018 #176

At my local McD's you have to wade past a pack of teenage girls... Iggo Sep 2018 #180

Progress is inevitable. Remember all those buggy makers that are out of work? Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #183

AI, from what I read is more threatening. bitterross Sep 2018 #185

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To be honest, my response was more of a reflex rather than an agenda. Vinnie From Indy Sep 2018 #189

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