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Face it, the Green Party took enough votes in the states that mattered that would have shraby Aug 2018 #1
Hell no JackInGreen Aug 2018 #3
Why are some people still trying to expel Democrats who voted "wrong" in the 2016 primary? lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #222
Yes. Every Democrat running in those critical swing states lost to the incumbent, establishment, still_one Aug 2018 #10
Yikes Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #2
First off, non voters handed the election to Trump Tom Rinaldo Aug 2018 #213
Two of my nieces are among that 12%. lamp_shade Aug 2018 #4
How do they feel about that? joshcryer Aug 2018 #8
Neither has brought it up since. lamp_shade Aug 2018 #21
Wow, lampshade. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #32
There's so much wrong with them that it's hard to know where to start. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #82
Good, they should not be voting RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #247
I think if people had taken the time to check out both candidates LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #142
Yeah, if you watched one single roundtable she did. joshcryer Aug 2018 #144
I couldn't get over that. I heard so many speeches and discussions. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #214
Let's remember the context. "Grab them by their pussies" grantcart Aug 2018 #178
What they said and did does not make any sense. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #24
See my post #21 lamp_shade Aug 2018 #26
That's some deep brainwashing.. they sucked in Cha Aug 2018 #53
with a garnish of misogyny nt spooky3 Aug 2018 #80
Oh yeah.. the fucking brainwashers went at Hillary Full Bore and Cha Aug 2018 #83
Had dinner w a coworker yesterday who was like that onetexan Aug 2018 #187
Yeah, it's sickening and disheartening. Cha Aug 2018 #190
Yup!! And if bernie doesn't stay away from the 2020 race... the dye may very well be cast Thekaspervote Aug 2018 #165
Totally get your point...but to Julius Caesar Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #254
Do they at least have any regrets?? InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #172
Thanks so much, we REALLY want and need to see more of this, elleng Aug 2018 #5
This has nothing to do with Bernie. Bernie endorsed the Democratic nominee. This has EVERYTHING to still_one Aug 2018 #12
You may be right, but the OP SAYS 'Bernie Sanders Helped Trump Win' elleng Aug 2018 #19
Actually it said "Bernie Sanders' voters", and no doubt that was used to create the typical sparing still_one Aug 2018 #25
DAMN quick! elleng Aug 2018 #28
+1 Agschmid Aug 2018 #61
That's the headline of the Newsweek story cited. N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #185
Another view justie18 Aug 2018 #35
This lunamagica Aug 2018 #45
Exactly. How Cha Aug 2018 #57
This sheshe2 Aug 2018 #58
Whoa! Cha Aug 2018 #69
Yup. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #88
That poster who's claiming "false narrative" Cha Aug 2018 #95
Fact, Cha. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #104
Body language is a funny thing.. JHan Aug 2018 #209
False narrative. Agschmid Aug 2018 #62
Actually it's exactly what happened. Cha Aug 2018 #66
No, it's someone adding their own spin on it. Agschmid Aug 2018 #67
I know exactly what the post stated and I agree wholeheartedly. Cha Aug 2018 #79
I have read the entire thread and the articles Gothmog Aug 2018 #155
That means a Lot, Goth.. and You were at the Convention! Cha Aug 2018 #159
The convention was not a fun experience Gothmog Aug 2018 #197
Nothing false about it. It is what happened, in a nutshell lunamagica Aug 2018 #113
+Millions! Cha Aug 2018 #160
I have my personal bias, and was and am a strong Hillary supporter, however since the midterms are still_one Aug 2018 #86
So there's a GOOD time to divide Democrats? lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #223
That isn't what I said, but thank you for distorting and misrepresenting what I said. Democrats still_one Aug 2018 #231
The OP claims that Bernie voters helped Trump. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #238
Yes, and there were some Sander's voters who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee. The still_one Aug 2018 #241
We definitely agree more than disagree. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #243
And has continued to act that way. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #193
I do believe this is the Moscow line.. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #198
I'd say it has everything to do with some of the voters that Bernie attracted and Hillary couldn't. shanny Aug 2018 #38
I Was One Of Those ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #195
I was too. shanny Aug 2018 #205
I honestly believe Hillary won Colorado mountain grammy Aug 2018 #199
I agree. shanny Aug 2018 #208
Thank you for pointing that out... not that Bernie will EVER get credit for ANYTHING from some here. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #230
This RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #248
More to the point, this is a year-old article, and got thoroughly debated back then... regnaD kciN Aug 2018 #161
I think the point is pretty clear. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #175
When you convince your followers that your opponent is not worthy Kahuna7 Aug 2018 #188
Someone here doesn't like Newsweek, albeit it's an old article. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #6
From Bernie to Dotard? mcar Aug 2018 #7
Of course it had something to do with sexism Rural_Progressive Aug 2018 #40
The voters decided they wanted Hillary as the Democratic candidate, and she won by MILLIONS lunamagica Aug 2018 #47
"The Next Time Someone Tries to Tell You That Hillary.. Cha Aug 2018 #183
That is a great meme Gothmog Aug 2018 #250
I don't think I need point out to you.. JHan Aug 2018 #76
Excellent. dawg day Aug 2018 #134
Beautifully said, JHan! lunamagica Aug 2018 #138
I love you JHan. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #156
Spot on apcalc Aug 2018 #179
Brilliantly stated, JHan! Cha Aug 2018 #182
The 1932 platform is equally interesting lapucelle Aug 2018 #186
Thank you for that.. JHan Aug 2018 #203
"You Erased Her" Me. Aug 2018 #227
The person you're responding to didn't say she didn't deserve it. meadowlander Aug 2018 #233
It was a gender based argument. JHan Aug 2018 #239
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. Aug 2018 #251
So We Should Just Nominate White Men Me. Aug 2018 #219
Was it racism when 28% of Clinton supporters voted for McCain? Major Nikon Aug 2018 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2018 #64
part of it, look at harriet christian. JI7 Aug 2018 #108
That rather important bit of context was oddly missing from the OP mythology Aug 2018 #141
Given recent history it's far less Major Nikon Aug 2018 #148
I don't think there's any proof that 28% radical noodle Aug 2018 #162
Neither is there any proof that 12% of Bernie supporters voted for Trump Major Nikon Aug 2018 #192
Perhaps not absolute proof but a good indication radical noodle Aug 2018 #211
There's also a good indication more Clinton supporters voted for McCain Major Nikon Aug 2018 #217
Oh, in many cases I think that was exactly the reason radical noodle Aug 2018 #255
That left a mark Omaha Steve Aug 2018 #244
I know.. that Racist Pervert!?? Cha Aug 2018 #103
My guess NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #220
That's a good theory mcar Aug 2018 #225
There you go. That's a bit tough to stomach, although it's more Hoyt Aug 2018 #9
Russia did interfere in certain ways, but there is no denying that this was a big factor still_one Aug 2018 #15
Yes, but don't believe they hacked votes. Further, anyone that believed Ruskie Hoyt Aug 2018 #16
They hacked into several state election systems, that's proven. I doubt they were... brush Aug 2018 #44
Didn't have to. 12%, or even 2%, discussed in OP accomplished Hoyt Aug 2018 #52
That makes no sense. brush Aug 2018 #72
Maybe you need to reread OP. Hoyt Aug 2018 #73
Maybe you need to explain your reasoning. brush Aug 2018 #89
If 2% of people who voted for Sanders voted for trump Hoyt Aug 2018 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Aug 2018 #77
Do you have evidence of hundreds of people being turned away from polls? Hoyt Aug 2018 #94
Here's the thing about "losing to trump" mountain grammy Aug 2018 #202
We know some Sanders people voted for trump or pouted and didn't vote in general election. We know Hoyt Aug 2018 #204
Yes, she was swiftboated for decades mountain grammy Aug 2018 #215
Well, numerous people here do know Sanders supporters who didn't vote for Clinton. And the OP says Hoyt Aug 2018 #216
and my argument back will always be mountain grammy Aug 2018 #221
There were some similarities between those two. Hard to deny. Hoyt Aug 2018 #226
I was part of a very active Bernie group mountain grammy Aug 2018 #240
Yes, the Russians Hacked the election systems and I don't Cha Aug 2018 #65
There's proof they got int registration systems. Maybe the reason Hoyt Aug 2018 #84
They were certainly up to something and most of it is still classified. See this link. LonePirate Aug 2018 #158
I agree it could have happened, but don't believe it is as easy as people think. Hoyt Aug 2018 #163
I believe they did hack votes Absolutely. apcalc Aug 2018 #180
Heck, I remember photos of stolen ballot boxes in the 1950s. Also remember claims of "I was robbed" Hoyt Aug 2018 #207
Not that unusual unc70 Aug 2018 #11
Bingo Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #13
It didn't cost Obama the election. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #14
Obama had positive approval ratings among registered voters. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #51
It doesn't State how many of the Clinton primary voters did not vote for Obama uponit7771 Aug 2018 #27
Actually it does. 25% Clinton primary voters for MCCain unc70 Aug 2018 #29
Well there's an inconvenient fact. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #43
No kiddin'... but, hey, why let that stop a good Bernie bashing. Awards night comin' up... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #232
You're right, I read the OP wrong ... yeah ... sounds like a shit kicking post uponit7771 Aug 2018 #48
Exactly ZeroSomeBrains Aug 2018 #34
The author is a complete moron Major Nikon Aug 2018 #39
"25 percent of those who voted for Clinton in the Democratic primary ended up voting for..... George II Aug 2018 #63
Boom! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #81
I've always ignored the Whataboutism about 2008... JHan Aug 2018 #147
Its not whataboutism. Its that there was nothing at all about Sanders impact on this race JCanete Aug 2018 #176
Since this is not the first time your recollection of History is different to what happened... JHan Aug 2018 #194
I don't believe I ignore points you make JHan. I do disagree with your points, but I'm not sure that JCanete Aug 2018 #218
I'm not sure all those 2008 Clinton voters were really Clinton voters. Pope George Ringo II Aug 2018 #97
From BS to the Racist Pervert?! You see the difference. Cha Aug 2018 #100
BS non-story posted by obsessives bitterly clinging to refighting a primary from 2 years ago! Bonheur Aug 2018 #181
"In 2008 25% of Clinton primary voters voted for McCain in the general election." pampango Aug 2018 #17
I bet most of that PUMA stuff was enemy driven as well. NightWatcher Aug 2018 #20
Some like to forget that shit Major Nikon Aug 2018 #41
I sure as hell don't. I vote for the Dem no matter what. Cha Aug 2018 #101
Which is why I despise them even more than I do Trump. They were supposedly smarter than him. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #18
Operative word "suppose" to be. Cha Aug 2018 #169
She makes my skin crawl. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #242
PUMAs? moondust Aug 2018 #22
So Clinton got twice as much as Obama, hmmmmm. More proof Russians might been involved uponit7771 Aug 2018 #23
How many Bernie voters would have voted for Hillary safeinOhio Aug 2018 #30
Why would Hillary have Ever done that? Cha Aug 2018 #56
Gee I don't know because he received a huge sum of primary votes? Agschmid Aug 2018 #71
Hillary knew who she wanted and it wasn't BS. Cha Aug 2018 #74
And she's entitled to make a pick. Agschmid Aug 2018 #78
And, you have to lob a personal insult to try and make your point. Cha Aug 2018 #85
It's not a personal attack, it's a fact. Agschmid Aug 2018 #131
Yeah, keep digging. Cha Aug 2018 #145
i notice that also Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #224
The fact that you need to answer with a personal attack shows you have no argument lunamagica Aug 2018 #120
Actually my argument is that people are being intellectually dishonest. Agschmid Aug 2018 #132
It is not a fact. It is only your opinion. An opinion I strongly disagree with lunamagica Aug 2018 #137
I didn't ever say he would be a good pick, I said saying there were zero reasons to pick him... Agschmid Aug 2018 #139
Having a "following" sheshe2 Aug 2018 #149
Important points on why BS would not have made a Cha Aug 2018 #167
Exactly, Cha. Pick him because he had "a following" (even though most couldn't bother to vote) lunamagica Aug 2018 #170
It would have been a disaster. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #166
Mahalo, she.. Cha Aug 2018 #168
Hillary would have been President had she picked VP Sanders... without a doubt. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #173
Probably not that many more tbh. Agschmid Aug 2018 #70
Can we get beyond this please xxqqqzme Aug 2018 #31
It will never end. A zombie apocalypse wouldn't end it n/t leftstreet Aug 2018 #60
I am not allowed to talk about 2016, therefore, buckle up, gonna happen again Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #102
This happens in every after primary GE vote elmac Aug 2018 #33
THIS... thank you! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #228
the ones booing at the convention voted for Trump JI7 Aug 2018 #36
... Major Nikon Aug 2018 #37
.... Sugar Smack Aug 2018 #68
...... peekaloo Aug 2018 #91
I know a lot of people who did so. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2018 #46
those people are ok with Trump's bigotry JI7 Aug 2018 #49
Indifferent to it at the very least. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2018 #140
Yet another red-herring article to deflect from the fact that the election was STOLEN diva77 Aug 2018 #50
says more about them than us... samnsara Aug 2018 #54
These were interesting statistics a year ago. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #55
Most Bernie supporters voted for Hillary. wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #59
So how do we get Bernie/or third party voters on our side? backtoblue Aug 2018 #75
Agreed n/t JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #106
Thanks Joe backtoblue Aug 2018 #109
Failure in Nov is not an option. We need every vote we can JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #114
Amen! backtoblue Aug 2018 #116
Here we go: JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #118
Fight! Speak! Love! backtoblue Aug 2018 #121
Thanks for fighting. It takes tons of energy and thought. But it is the only way to win! JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #124
She became my hero in 2000 backtoblue Aug 2018 #127
Thanks for the reminder about Gore. JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #129
I just got another vote since talking to ya!!! backtoblue Aug 2018 #135
Great! JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #136
K&R Gothmog Aug 2018 #87
They were BoBs liberal N proud Aug 2018 #90
yep - Bernie bots were a rabid bunch, a lot switched to Jill in spite I think Baclava Aug 2018 #189
It as if they wanted trump to win liberal N proud Aug 2018 #246
I don't care what anyone says, we're not as smart as we think, we're still a trial and error species Baclava Aug 2018 #252
KnR sheshe2 Aug 2018 #92
2016 is over TheRealNorth Aug 2018 #93
Why wouldn't Bernie voters staying home out of spite count in these numbers? mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #171
Time to put it to rest and move on beachbum bob Aug 2018 #96
Of that I have zero doubt. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #98
An ole friend was wild about Bernie voted for Trump and still thinks he did the right thing because JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #105
not by appealing to their sexist conspiracies. they are ok with bigotry JI7 Aug 2018 #111
I would take a Dem vote from a bigot before I want him voting for a Rethug. JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #117
not if you need to become a bigot for their vote JI7 Aug 2018 #143
At this point in history, I don't care what any bigot might "want". As long as they vote for Dems. JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #150
they want democratic bigots so it does matter . they want to get rid of civil rights JI7 Aug 2018 #152
My father-in-law did the same thing... couldn't talk him out of it no matter how hard I tried. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #234
Those voters didn't give a shite about SCOTUS, Cha Aug 2018 #107
Yup, anti-Democrats! R B Garr Aug 2018 #119
They're even further away from the dream of "free stuff". oasis Aug 2018 #126
Good Point, oasis!.. Cha Aug 2018 #154
Attention DUers! Circular Firing Squad this way!! klook Aug 2018 #110
ATTENTION! THIS is About the GE in 2016. Cha Aug 2018 #112
Relative to recent elections, your conclusion is flawed CentralMass Aug 2018 #115
And about a equal percentage of Hillary supporters voted for McCain in 2008. Remember PUMA? Kaleva Aug 2018 #122
Dontchaknow?! No whataboutism allowed!! hahaha... seriously, excellent point! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #229
For the most part I don't blame Sanders. I refuse to take the blame off Comey, where it belongs. StevieM Aug 2018 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author StevieM Aug 2018 #125
Those bastards! egduj Aug 2018 #128
K&R musette_sf Aug 2018 #130
Let's really tackle this.. JHan Aug 2018 #133
.... ehrnst Aug 2018 #196
Many Bernie supporters were not Democrats to begin with. earthshine Aug 2018 #146
past is prologue, idiots vote emotions Demonaut Aug 2018 #151
Here is some on this topic Gothmog Aug 2018 #153
Damn.. and throw in those who got Sucked in by stein's LIES Cha Aug 2018 #157
Agreed Gothmog Aug 2018 #200
Well. I posted the WAPO's article that stated similar figures in post 115.. CentralMass Aug 2018 #164
Cool....study only available to political wire members. Quote from the article.... JCanete Aug 2018 #174
Hes going to try MFM008 Aug 2018 #177
Unfortunate thread Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #184
Why is Hillary Clinton entitled to some other candidate's voters? TheFarseer Aug 2018 #191
I noted these were interesting stats. WhiteTara Aug 2018 #210
Stay in your hole... hahaha!! (Some good points.) InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #235
I think that is very possible. kentuck Aug 2018 #201
Lets worry about getting some of the 90+ million eligible voters who didn't bother to vote. jalan48 Aug 2018 #206
Ding! Ding! Ding!... We hava winner!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #236
Wow. Why has this never been posted before on DU?!? progressoid Aug 2018 #212
Gettin' old... specially when we need to be united goin' into the 2018 elections and beyond. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #237
See post 164. CentralMass Aug 2018 #253
So what? whopis01 Aug 2018 #245
The point is that many want to blame progressives for the loss ... earthshine Aug 2018 #249
Really, what we want is for this NOT to happen again. WhiteTara Aug 2018 #257
Blaming Bernie is blah, blah, blah. I said no such thing about democracy. earthshine Aug 2018 #258
Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns Gothmog Aug 2018 #256
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