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5. She's not quick on her feet. This is what WAPO has compiled

Sun Aug 12, 2018, 10:41 PM

Aug 2018

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210994189

You can't call someone who gets the facts wrong quick on their feet.

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Most voters stayed home for stunning Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez win [View all] sheshe2 Aug 2018 OP

So Crowley couldn't motivate his constituents leftstreet Aug 2018 #1

Well. I'm sure with all the support he will be giving her she shouldn't have any problem winning jalan48 Aug 2018 #2

Well, with her unfounded attacks AFTER she won.... George II Aug 2018 #165

Perhaps not for the few that bothered to vote. Very small turn out. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #3

Not me Glamrock Aug 2018 #29

Newsworthy does not make the congressional congressperson. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #51

No doubt. Glamrock Aug 2018 #53

... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #60

Really? xmas74 Aug 2018 #158

Unfortunately her message didn't reach the voters in the midwest.... George II Aug 2018 #213

I got that Deja Vu feeling all over again. nt fleabiscuit Aug 2018 #178

Hey flea. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #187

She may be reaching her own district through the national press DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 #4

She's not quick on her feet. This is what WAPO has compiled stevenleser Aug 2018 #5

She's pretty sharp and speaks to people directly, KPN Aug 2018 #19

She will win and it won't be close oberliner Aug 2018 #87

No. If you were familiar with NY primaries this year, MOST constituents were expecting to vote.... George II Aug 2018 #164

Thank you for the reminder, she.. That "earthquake" Cha Aug 2018 #6

They are the ones we have been waiting for Cha, sheshe2 Aug 2018 #62

No Doubt.. Team Playas! Cha Aug 2018 #68

Playas!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #71

If I lived an hour west of my current location xmas74 Aug 2018 #160

Close! Cha Aug 2018 #186

Close enough that I plan to hear her speak. xmas74 Aug 2018 #237

Oh I would love that.. good Cha Aug 2018 #239

Well, she's the Dem candidate now. We should be supporting her, not tearing her down. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #7

I do not see where I am tearing her down. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #11

'She has not been there since her election in a primary' melman Aug 2018 #13

Dated August 12th. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #20

⁦@AdyBarkan⁩ & I hosted a Labor Town Hall in a sweltering, packed church in the Bronx (Aug 7) oberliner Aug 2018 #86

Yeah. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #169

She barnstormed three zip codes in her district in four days. lapucelle Aug 2018 #162

And on the 7th week, she rested. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #173

... lapucelle Aug 2018 #174

;) sheshe2 Aug 2018 #192

That is a really good one. betsuni Aug 2018 #182

I couldn't help myself. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #184

Ah, Genesis 2:2 George II Aug 2018 #234

Exactly. I don't understand the hostility toward KPN Aug 2018 #21

I never understood the hostility to Hillary and Obama. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #37

Hmmm.. Cha Aug 2018 #56

Cha!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #64

Hmmm mcar Aug 2018 #95

I do, mcar. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #106

Hostility to Obama? Yeah, there's been plenty KPN Aug 2018 #107

Hill/Brick post. nt sheshe2 Aug 2018 #172

What- G_j Aug 2018 #206

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #108

I think that the hostility is overblown, but the reason is that AOC has spent much of her time... Caliman73 Aug 2018 #166

I guess I haven't heard her criticizing the Democratic Party KPN Aug 2018 #185

Tammy Duckworth sheshe2 Aug 2018 #197

Have you by chance heard Bernie Sanders criticize the Hortensis Aug 2018 #230

Again, it's about Bernie. The meme that we KPN Aug 2018 #231

No, it's about HER. I don't like what she's saying. Hortensis Aug 2018 #232

I don't think it's tearing her down to wonder at some of her behavior that is so untypical ... Hekate Aug 2018 #25

Blue is never true, Hekate. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #76

We lost our seat in 2010. xmas74 Aug 2018 #161

I understand your pain. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #193

Yes. With just a little care by the official, it can take Hortensis Aug 2018 #228

So it's just "wonder" then. Okay. Then why the statements KPN Aug 2018 #109

I have not participated that much in the discussions, one way or another. I have certainly not... Hekate Aug 2018 #138

Not really that untypical of a first time candidate progressoid Aug 2018 #129

It's more complicated than that Retrograde Aug 2018 #8

I have read about NY voting rules, thank you Retrograde. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #70

Yup! First things first. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #105

I guess this means... tonedevil Aug 2018 #121

It would be impossible for me to vote for her... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #208

It doesn't matter when you hold your primaries. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #9

The big thing is how many primaries you hold in a particular state. NY had one in June and.... George II Aug 2018 #163

Are you advocating a third party vote? melman Aug 2018 #10

Crowley is a Democrat. Are you upset about Sanders R B Garr Aug 2018 #12

Boom! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #22

Not if he's running as an independent he isn't. Glamrock Aug 2018 #30

Yep. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #34

BS.I NT sheshe2 Aug 2018 #72

I'm not following you sister. Glamrock Aug 2018 #74

Bernie Sanders. Independent. nt sheshe2 Aug 2018 #77

So are you saying we should support independents over Democrats? Glamrock Aug 2018 #78

Crowley is a Democrat. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #80

I'm so not. Glamrock Aug 2018 #81

No. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #82

No melman Aug 2018 #83

He did not place himself on the ballot as an Independent. R B Garr Aug 2018 #102

Got it. Glamrock Aug 2018 #84

Ding-Ding... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #97

Crowley has been in the district for 20 years. He did not R B Garr Aug 2018 #104

. MaryELease Aug 2018 #198

. R B Garr Aug 2018 #200

So. . MaryELease Aug 2018 #212

Just the fact that you misrepresent what is happeing in her district tells me R B Garr Aug 2018 #216

Sorry MaryELease Aug 2018 #218

LOL, no you are misrepresenting what the facts are of him getting R B Garr Aug 2018 #219

Joseph Crowley is the chairman of the Queens County Democratic Party, and he has been... George II Aug 2018 #225

+1000 OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #253

He's in today's DEMOCRATIC primary. He'll be on the November ballot as an Independent. George II Aug 2018 #235

LOL, never mind. ucrdem Aug 2018 #244

lol, you are getting responses that voting for an Independent R B Garr Aug 2018 #33

This place is a hoot. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #35

It is officially through the looking glass! R B Garr Aug 2018 #38

Yup. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #44

Right? Glamrock Aug 2018 #36

No, for years it has been that Independents are Democrats. R B Garr Aug 2018 #39

You say tomato.... Glamrock Aug 2018 #42

Crowley is a Democrat, so we're good. R B Garr Aug 2018 #43

No, he's running as an independent. Glamrock Aug 2018 #45

He is a Democrat. R B Garr Aug 2018 #46

Really? Glamrock Aug 2018 #47

The umbrage over "Independents" now is hilarious. R B Garr Aug 2018 #48

Ooops sheshe2 Aug 2018 #50

It's not umbrage. Glamrock Aug 2018 #52

Crowley's name is on the ballot as a Democrat, not as an independent. nt ucrdem Aug 2018 #54

How is that possible? Glamrock Aug 2018 #61

Basically it's a fluke. ucrdem Aug 2018 #63

Okay then. Glamrock Aug 2018 #65

hey thanks ucrdem Aug 2018 #67

You too man. Glamrock Aug 2018 #69

It's not true melman Aug 2018 #73

So, you are hoping that the primary is negated Bettie Aug 2018 #246

Hi Bettie, to answer your question: if Crowley is on the ballot, he'll be running as a Dem. ucrdem Aug 2018 #247

Being for Independent Bernie by saying he's really a Democrat R B Garr Aug 2018 #55

Oh my God! Glamrock Aug 2018 #58

Crowley is a Democrat. If you supported Bernie's multiple R B Garr Aug 2018 #99

It's your phony umbrage over "now" that's hilarious Jim Lane Aug 2018 #112

Hilarious and desperate spin. Crowley did not place himself R B Garr Aug 2018 #113

Let's look at the facts and see who's spinning. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #122

It is not a lie that Bernie switched parties, lol. R B Garr Aug 2018 #127

"That is a simplification to which I do not subscribe..." LanternWaste Aug 2018 #229

Crowley is not running oberliner Aug 2018 #90

He lied. He is running. Glamrock Aug 2018 #92

Crowley tweets: 'Still not running' oberliner Aug 2018 #93

Keep in mind that he won that primary like AOC won hers. ucrdem Aug 2018 #100

That's probably not true. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #114

It's true. Here's a link. This is not a guessing game: ucrdem Aug 2018 #131

I repeat, it's probably false, and your link proves absolutely nothing. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #136

Balletopedia.org considers him a Democrat running on a minor party line. ucrdem Aug 2018 #141

Thanks for the link showing Crowley is a Democrat, R B Garr Aug 2018 #147

Exactly. Crowley is currently a Democratic member of Congress ucrdem Aug 2018 #155

OK, I'm out. No point in continuing. You are impervious to facts or logic. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #148

No, see, it's voting for some Independents that's bad mcar Aug 2018 #96

Bazinga! George II Aug 2018 #236

Crowley has endorsed Ocasio-Cortez oberliner Aug 2018 #91

Hey Mel. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #15

Crowley's name is on the ballot as a Democrat. ucrdem Aug 2018 #49

Crowley has endorsed Ocasio-Cortez oberliner Aug 2018 #89

That is absolutely false. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #123

LOL. Please provide a link documenting his party change, TIA. nt ucrdem Aug 2018 #132

You are REALLY reaching Jim Lane Aug 2018 #134

So he is, was, and will assuredly remain a reliable (D). Thanks! nt ucrdem Aug 2018 #135

No, thank YOU for finally conceding that your post #49 was false. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #137

That's very imaginative. ucrdem Aug 2018 #139

+++. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #201

Crowley is a Democrat lapucelle Aug 2018 #233

Do you agree with me that the subject line of post #49 is false? Jim Lane Aug 2018 #240

No. Crowley is a Democrat, he is not running, and he endorsed AOC. N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #241

Stop it with the "Crowley is a Democrat"! Will he be ON THE BALLOT as a Democrat? Jim Lane Aug 2018 #242

He is and will be Chairman of the US Congressional Democratic Caucus. ucrdem Aug 2018 #243

... lapucelle Aug 2018 #249

If people vote for Crowley, they are voting for a Democrat. R B Garr Aug 2018 #154

Exactly. ucrdem Aug 2018 #156

Like it or not, Crowley is the Chairman of the Queens County Democratic Party..... George II Aug 2018 #183

Like it or not, he is not "on the ballot as a Democrat." Jim Lane Aug 2018 #189

He's running as a Democrat on a minor party line. ucrdem Aug 2018 #191

Crowley IS on the ballot for the Working Families Party, just was in.... George II Aug 2018 #98

No one had a problem in prior years... when he wasn't on the ballot AGAINST the Democratic nominee Jim Lane Aug 2018 #124

A vote for Crowley would be a vote for the best Democrat R B Garr Aug 2018 #194

So you're advocating a vote AGAINST the official Democratic nominee? Jim Lane Aug 2018 #195

I don't live in New York, but your tortured reasoning is R B Garr Aug 2018 #196

Some people will vote for Crowley as being the best REPUBLICAN. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #203

Crowley didn't switch parties. He's a Democrat. He's been a Democrat for R B Garr Aug 2018 #205

Lieberman didn't switch either. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #207

You are switching the concern now. First the concern was that Crowley wasn't a Democrat R B Garr Aug 2018 #209

You are flatly misstating the facts. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #210

No, you are flatly trying to switch the concern now that you've been deflated R B Garr Aug 2018 #211

Is this post intended as a parody? Jim Lane Aug 2018 #222

You keep trying to shift the concern. That is the main thing going on here. R B Garr Aug 2018 #224

Okay...to be fair I imagine most voters stay home in ALL primaries... pecosbob Aug 2018 #14

Hey pecosbob. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #32

So what's the point of bringing up a story from June now? Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #16

She should spend time in her district, Bradshaw. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #26

You didn't answer the question Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #103

Why are posting this? Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #17

I always support true Democrats. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #41

Is Ocasio-Cortez a false democrat in your opinion? Devil Child Aug 2018 #111

Doesnt she claim to be fallout87 Aug 2018 #227

That, and the "inevitability" question everything Aug 2018 #18

And are certain that that AOC will win. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #24

She will win and it won't be close; she is holding town halls in her district oberliner Aug 2018 #88

WTF? KPN Aug 2018 #23

WTF? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #27

Just WTF. Speaks for itself. KPN Aug 2018 #110

Good point on Crowley. ucrdem Aug 2018 #28

You VOTED! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #40

Thanks sheshe! ucrdem Aug 2018 #57

Got it. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #59

She is making me very nervous.. chillfactor Aug 2018 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Aug 2018 #66

Considering Jamaal510 Aug 2018 #75

Curious, isn't it, Jamaal....or not. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #79

That's what I think is strange. Renew Deal Aug 2018 #118

Packed room for @Ocasio2018 and @AdyBarkan tonight in the Bronx (Aug 7) oberliner Aug 2018 #85

Thanks for sharing Oberliner Devil Child Aug 2018 #133

"I havent seen a reception like this for a member of Congress for a while...."? George II Aug 2018 #202

So we refight primary results if they got support from Bernie dembotoz Aug 2018 #94

Gee, ya think? Jim Lane Aug 2018 #125

it does get old doesn't it dembotoz Aug 2018 #153

"I used to be disgusted. Now I try to be amused." Jim Lane Aug 2018 #190

The lack of turnout is bordering on scandalous dsc Aug 2018 #101

My understanding is TheFarseer Aug 2018 #115

Not exactly right Renew Deal Aug 2018 #117

Ok, not as sinister as I had heard TheFarseer Aug 2018 #120

The restrictive registration rules ARE the establishment's fault. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #126

You understanding is not correct. lapucelle Aug 2018 #168

Yeah TheFarseer Aug 2018 #177

A lot of people were confused about the split primary. lapucelle Aug 2018 #181

He could easily win on name recognition Renew Deal Aug 2018 #116

Well, fuck those voters for sitting it out. Iggo Aug 2018 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Aug 2018 #128

Sheshe3 pls.stop demeaning her win, Chickensoup Aug 2018 #130

sheshe2 here sheshe2 Aug 2018 #179

Like in so many other congressional districts, MineralMan Aug 2018 #140

Great article Gothmog Aug 2018 #142

Of course melman Aug 2018 #145

I am stunned by the number of posts here trying to damage a Democratic candidate for Congress. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #143

So now Rupert Murdochs rag is a reliable source for democrats??? pwb Aug 2018 #144

Amazing isn't it? melman Aug 2018 #146

Now, now, don't have an itty bitty hissy fit. SMC22307 Aug 2018 #159

I don't know WTF that means? Murdochs NY Post is not a rag to you? pwb Aug 2018 #199

For some here unity is only for their faction. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #149

We are fortunate that the turnout in Michigan was higher Gothmog Aug 2018 #150

The article you linked to doesn't support your claim in the slightest. Kaleva Aug 2018 #175

The Our Revolution/AOC plans for Michigan were based on low turnout Gothmog Aug 2018 #188

Whitmer had been favored to win the nomination for quite a while MichMan Aug 2018 #180

self deleted riversedge Aug 2018 #151

very, very true heaven05 Aug 2018 #152

Hey! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #171

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #157

lol BeckyDem Aug 2018 #167

Good. Then we know it pretty accurately reflects a general election.. MadDAsHell Aug 2018 #170

We'll be voting for senator and governor this year. lapucelle Aug 2018 #176

I heard that there's a lot of grumbling in the 14th District.... George II Aug 2018 #204

You have? MaryELease Aug 2018 #214

Yes I have, and no I can't. I TALK to people. I grew up in Queens and lived in what is now... George II Aug 2018 #215

So... MaryELease Aug 2018 #217

Everything you posted is the same thing. Anecdotal, not empirical. What is being R B Garr Aug 2018 #220

Yes. MaryELease Aug 2018 #221

Yes, Cortez is affiliated with Bill Clinton, Gore and other members of the R B Garr Aug 2018 #223

She also got her political start by working in Ted Kennedy's MA office. George II Aug 2018 #238

Wow! Thanks, George! That is an interesting breakdown of their priorities. R B Garr Aug 2018 #250

Yes, throw the Sanders Institute is in that mix, too. George II Aug 2018 #252

AOC was a low-turnout winner but she's still a winner! KCDebbie Aug 2018 #226

Part of the problem was that they had multiple primaries grantcart Aug 2018 #245

I think a lot of that gets forgotten in the excitement.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #248

Primaries always have low voter turnout. OrwellwasRight Aug 2018 #251

It's just amazing how threatened choie Aug 2018 #254