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Showing Original Post only (View all)Dems Like Leftism, Not Bernie Sanders [View all]
While the Democratic Party likes, or is at least willing to tolerate, some species of democratic socialism, it really does not like Bernie Sanders*. This is why todays mainstream candidates are defeating Sanders-endorsed candidates despite being far more leftist than mainstream candidates of the past. In other words, they are finding voters who liked Sanders message in 2016, but hated the messenger.
Im willing to bet that after the midterms so-called moderates in the Democratic Party are not going run when critics accuse them of being in bed with socialists. I dont think theyll defend socialism but they arent going to get hung up on labels either.
They are going to pay attention to what labels can deliver.
Go ahead. Call Medicare for All a socialist plot.
Fact is, its popular.
*Why? Easy. He wounded Hillary Clintons campaign.
*Democrats of color were suspicious of Sanders from the start, due to his efforts to appeal to Trump voters. Others, like me, are wary of Sanders due to the fact that he did not release his tax returns. Sanders also benefited from Russian propaganda, but has not, to my knowledge, admitted to being helped.
Im willing to bet that after the midterms so-called moderates in the Democratic Party are not going run when critics accuse them of being in bed with socialists. I dont think theyll defend socialism but they arent going to get hung up on labels either.
They are going to pay attention to what labels can deliver.
Go ahead. Call Medicare for All a socialist plot.
Fact is, its popular.
*Why? Easy. He wounded Hillary Clintons campaign.
*Democrats of color were suspicious of Sanders from the start, due to his efforts to appeal to Trump voters. Others, like me, are wary of Sanders due to the fact that he did not release his tax returns. Sanders also benefited from Russian propaganda, but has not, to my knowledge, admitted to being helped.
https://stoehr.substack.com/p/dems-like-leftism-not-bernie-sanders-ea5
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If that's true, why does he have such a hard time pulling his endorsees over the finish line?
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#6
The New Deal programs were 1930s programs designed to drag the country out of....
George II
Aug 2018
#312
He does really well because they purposely left out other more popular politicians.
bettyellen
Aug 2018
#33
Harvard Harris hasn't included BS's name on the "most popular" list since January.
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#80
There are very real problems with polls that are designed to be marketing tools
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#101
No it doesn't "go back and forth". Bernie is "popular" but people prefer others for President
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#87
"Does he consistently poll as the most popular political in the country?" No. N/T
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#75
There is literally no poll anywhere showing that he's the most popular of any politician.
George II
Aug 2018
#92
Yep, nowhere. Most of those are not NATIONAL polls including ALL Democrats or politicians.
George II
Aug 2018
#215
Sorry, that's simply not true. He has NEVER polled as the most popular political (ian)...
George II
Aug 2018
#91
Using that logic I'm the most popular politician. I'm involved in politics and....
George II
Aug 2018
#223
You have to go through a General Election in order for your popularity to matter?
liberalnarb
Aug 2018
#237
My overall views would be considered pretty darn leftist. My issue with Sanders and others...
Garrett78
Aug 2018
#5
I've posted that article numerous times, but it hasn't sunk in with everyone yet...
Garrett78
Aug 2018
#286
This is just an excuse to get people to not vet him, which didn't work out well before.
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#26
I know who my enemies are, thanks though. There is a reason the Russian's helped Bernie.
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#41
Bernie is NOT the "enemy". However he lacks the judgement or temperament to be President
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#50
And that's why he was flat out axed from the Women's Convention by an all out protest
Wwcd
Aug 2018
#56
Have you seen the midwest campaigning conducted over the last week or two? THAT....
George II
Aug 2018
#98
I liken Bernie's attitude towards the Democratic Party to people that support "Right to Work"
dansolo
Aug 2018
#262
This works both ways. It's well known that a contingent of Bernie supporters don't
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#24
I listened to what he had to say when he first declared he was pretending to be a Dem
liberal N proud
Aug 2018
#15
It still pisses me off. And to hear his supporters on DU whining about how poorly he is treated.
GulfCoast66
Aug 2018
#76
Oh yes. From the guy that promoted his MLK march as a shining trophy, turns around
Wwcd
Aug 2018
#100
I think because he spoke positively about Hillary Clinton. Brainwashed morons.
betsuni
Aug 2018
#159
That is really shocking to me. And unacceptable. No less than what a Trumper would do. nt
Honeycombe8
Aug 2018
#246
Tom you are so right! It's open season every time Bernie's name is mentioned.
Power 2 the People
Aug 2018
#124
That sounds like a good point, but it's not. Every candidate wounds their own campaign.
stevenleser
Aug 2018
#253
I won't go into it, but you aunt's situation is nothing like many of us. You're full of baloney.
YOHABLO
Aug 2018
#120
Wwcd is correct. Medicare is rather pricey insurance and definitely not "single payer."
ucrdem
Aug 2018
#140
Correct and also not correct. So Medicare as it is now has enough gaps and copays to make it worse
stevenleser
Aug 2018
#255
So, you know, attacking Bernie at this juncture is as bad an idea as attacking Pelosi....
Power 2 the People
Aug 2018
#136
Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing here. EVERY political candidate is flawed in some way,
PatrickforO
Aug 2018
#234
I'm sure they will do anything to anyone if it helps divide us. Don't fall for it.
jalan48
Aug 2018
#257
I just want to live long enough to see the progressives, climate change deniers
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#328
Cool...you can tell us what we like. Problem is you're wrong and polls do show that Sanders
JCanete
Aug 2018
#126
Arguably we're divideded for entirely different reasons than somebody pointing out
JCanete
Aug 2018
#151
Are you serious? You are sayhing his rhetoric has just recently changed? You know that isn't true.
JCanete
Aug 2018
#161
The democratic party is hopefully, full of adults, and we can weather criticism.
JCanete
Aug 2018
#165
It has gotten to the point, regardless of intentions, but of actual consolidation of wealth
JCanete
Aug 2018
#171
That's simply because it used to be "last 30 years." This is not a new argument because the facts
JCanete
Aug 2018
#250
They "prove" nothing of the sort. They prove that you can take no pac money and be competitive,
JCanete
Aug 2018
#172
I don't assume people taking pac money are corrupted by that money. It can happen, and how would we
JCanete
Aug 2018
#249
haha..that was a weak ass comeback that did not deal with the content of my post.
JCanete
Aug 2018
#266
That doesn't reflect me, sorry. I was certainly not for going for Ryan over Pelosi, and while I
JCanete
Aug 2018
#272
Yes, totally. Agreed. And that criticism should also be rooted in fact. I don't vilify anybody with
JCanete
Aug 2018
#248
yes. I don't like OR's decision. You can see that I've been consistent on that point from
JCanete
Aug 2018
#274
Millions of dark money from ex-Republicans like Justice Democrats* is hardly "small potatoes".
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#304
I hold them most importantly to the standard of what they are standing for. When they fail on that
JCanete
Aug 2018
#306
Cenk doesn't hide the fact that he is anti-Democrat. That is for sure. He gets
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#308
I agree with their assesment of the world....of the impact on money, of the overwhelming evidence
JCanete
Aug 2018
#309
Republicans fund democrats through all kinds of ways Garr. Trump has put money into the Clinton
JCanete
Aug 2018
#311
LOL, Trump didn't give the Clinton Foundaton donation in 2009 to attack fellow Democrats,
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#313
That isn't at all what the mission is founded on. You are characterizing it as such, but its
JCanete
Aug 2018
#315
Foreign Agents are a real thing now. Haven't you read the current news of the
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#316
um...Cenk and Anna cover the Mueller indictments and take them seriously, and if I take their
JCanete
Aug 2018
#318
Anti-Democrats obvously know their audience and play well to them. There is a reason
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#319
Yes, this is the ruse. Pointing fingers at Democrats without proof can be fully funded with
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#303
There were primaries this week. Stop spreading misinformation. This is the exact tactic
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#225
People aren't disparaging him, they're just not willing to cede the party that we....
George II
Aug 2018
#288
The primaries this week contradict you. Those are the facts. It is pure misinformation
R B Garr
Aug 2018
#227
Let's face it, BS & AOC invested heavily in these primaries, and not a lot to show for it. So yes..
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#295
Meh. Sanders is yesterday's spoiler. No way is he going to allow himself to be vetted.
MrsCoffee
Aug 2018
#209
Boom! You blew up that fake narrative with a quickness. Wonder if you'll get a response?
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#296
In Kansas' 3rd Congressional District, Sharice Davids, a lesbian Native American, defeated Brent..
Cha
Aug 2018
#280
Welder was also backed by Justice Democrat, Brand New Congress, and Our Revolution, and...
George II
Aug 2018
#300