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87. I'm a liberal Democrat. I think that's redundant, or should be. WTF is this "progressive" crap

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:05 PM

Jul 2018

anyway? They demonized the word liberal, and now we have to run away from it and invent a new word? Notice that we didn't do that to conservative, and white wingers still proudly call themselves that.

Before, we had liberal, moderate, and conservative Democrats. So if they aren't liberal, are progressives moderate, center right, what?

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Poll: 57% of Dem. voters want candidates "more like Bernie Sanders" [View all] Fiendish Thingy Jul 2018 OP

I want a Democrat leftofcool Jul 2018 #1

I'm a liberal Democrat. I think that's redundant, or should be. WTF is this "progressive" crap brewens Jul 2018 #87

The Congressional Progressive Caucus MountCleaners Jul 2018 #96

I want a DEMOCRAT TOO. Did Bernie signed on w/ the Democratic Party yet? I thought he was going to trueblue2007 Jul 2018 #143

I don't want any old people at all...... Historic NY Jul 2018 #2

Look at every Democrat elected as a first term President since FDR Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #9

Yes, and I'm expecting that one of the new young crop will blast through in Primaries. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #13

I believe Jimmy Carter was 52. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #16

Trip down memory lane: sandensea Jul 2018 #72

I stand corrected on that one Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #85

I don't think "old" is the quality respondents were talking about BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #26

Not good DownriverDem Jul 2018 #56

That does not give you a get-out-of-jail-card for ageism. Xipe Totec Jul 2018 #68

I love Bernie !!! SamKnause Jul 2018 #3

Apparently that sentiment isn't shared by all respondents to the poll: George II Jul 2018 #123

Good for them. SamKnause Jul 2018 #124

Me too! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2018 #155

"Like Bernie Sanders" can mean a wide variety of things. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #4

Of course.. whathehell Jul 2018 #6

His? sheshe2 Jul 2018 #145

Lol whathehell Jul 2018 #149

Personally DownriverDem Jul 2018 #57

Yep. I suggest we leave it there! George II Jul 2018 #113

That's unfortunate...maybe LincolnRossiter Jul 2018 #5

Many candidates lose the first time and win later. whathehell Jul 2018 #8

Not in modern presidential politics - not often Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #12

Trump whathehell Jul 2018 #93

Hasn't really been the case since the 90s if you look at the last few successful candidates... LincolnRossiter Jul 2018 #38

I'm not worried about it. whathehell Jul 2018 #92

You would expect somebody with far less establishment backing to get smoked, but that interpretation JCanete Jul 2018 #95

Exactly, Sanders/OR has narrow appeal. radius777 Jul 2018 #151

I think the key will be "like Bernie" Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #7

What policies does that mean they want that are not already in the party platform? And am I reading Squinch Jul 2018 #10

It was a yes or no question Fiendish Thingy Jul 2018 #18

It isn't that clear: Squinch Jul 2018 #19

Is authenticity in the platform too? BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #28

What does that mean? And how does it relate to the post you are replying to? Squinch Jul 2018 #30

"Like Bernie Sanders" isn't just about platform positions BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #32

Oh ffs. And who is inauthentic in your little scenario? Squinch Jul 2018 #35

Maybe someday you'll figure out what people like about the guy BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #36

Maybe someday you'll catch up and realize we have bigger Squinch Jul 2018 #41

lol.. maybe someday that one will figure Cha Jul 2018 #65

Being coy and coquettish? mac56 Jul 2018 #61

Ooooh BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #76

Still mac56 Jul 2018 #83

THANK YOU! That reality seems to get lost in the catchy headline. George II Jul 2018 #115

Notice that the table refers to candidates for Congress spooky3 Jul 2018 #11

The ones for President has Biden at the top JI7 Jul 2018 #33

Good catch. Headline is misleading. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #50

Yes, and the poll only asks about two people.... George II Jul 2018 #117

I Would Be One Of Them colsohlibgal Jul 2018 #14

I quickly viewed the original poll, and would like more time to read it, NY_20th Jul 2018 #15

From what I can see, there were separate questions for just trump and Sanders. No one else..... George II Jul 2018 #120

Thanks. NY_20th Jul 2018 #126

Precisely, and there was no question regarding a Democrat..... George II Jul 2018 #127

Another Bernie online poll. OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #17

Lol sheshe2 Jul 2018 #31

YouGov. OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #44

Thanks sheshe2 Jul 2018 #45

LOL, thank you. nt R B Garr Jul 2018 #64

LOL leftofcool Jul 2018 #104

Is that it?! I wondered where the fuck this Cha Jul 2018 #71

If you're insinuating that it was a poll of self-selected respondents, you're wrong. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #88

From the actual survey document: lapucelle Jul 2018 #119

So it was NOT the kind of poll that "online poll" often suggests Jim Lane Jul 2018 #129

A randomized subset of a self-selected group lapucelle Jul 2018 #130

You are, again, substituting your prejudices for the facts. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #135

The only people eligible to participate were chosen from a larger pool lapucelle Jul 2018 #136

LOL that poster also never read the briefs or the pleadings in the DNC lawsuit Gothmog Jul 2018 #158

Now let's get back to what you actually said. lapucelle Jul 2018 #131

Regardless, their methodology correctly predicted 88% of 375 races analyzed. progressoid Jul 2018 #134

Can you explain why the question was asked about only TWO people, and not a bigger group.... George II Jul 2018 #138

Every poll involves such decisions. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #139

I agree that it wouldn't make sense to include Hillary Clinton in the poll. George II Jul 2018 #142

No thanks. But I'll take many more like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Bleacher Creature Jul 2018 #20

I think she's a perfect example of a candidate who is "like Sanders" Fiendish Thingy Jul 2018 #47

Only 6% of all registered Democrats in NY's 14th District voted for her. George II Jul 2018 #125

Is that the same AOC working to defeat William Clay in MO? still_one Jul 2018 #150

Yeah. I was 100% wrong. Bleacher Creature Jul 2018 #156

This is an online poll, why post these ? uponit7771 Jul 2018 #21

TY. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #29

Good point if that's the case. Hoyt Jul 2018 #34

You guys are good. I didn't notice that at first. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #53

Yes! I was asking where this poll came from.. no friends of mine took it.. Cha Jul 2018 #80

Agreed. Online polls have absolutely no merit whatsoever. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #140

With Scientifically Based Merit ProfessorGAC Jul 2018 #108

From the poller itself 'Survey mode: Web-based interviews" uponit7771 Jul 2018 #118

I will support any Democrat saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #22

Count me in that group! ananda Jul 2018 #23

What a meaningless question DavidDvorkin Jul 2018 #24

I want a Democrat... redstatebluegirl Jul 2018 #25

I want a Democrat as well. What's this the daily Bernie-post? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #27

Gee, I am sure glad we aren't refighting the primaries, because that is EXACTLY what this still_one Jul 2018 #37

I disagree Fiendish Thingy Jul 2018 #48

"Progressive" means getting things done and Hillary did.. Cha Jul 2018 #70

The poll does not do that at all dansolo Jul 2018 #99

On the other hand there are negative posts about Sanders here on a regular basis. CentralMass Jul 2018 #74

I want a Democrat period...so tired of this shit. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #39

Bernie would have destroyed Trump budkin Jul 2018 #40

I lulzed. Squinch Jul 2018 #46

Yep! Meadowoak Jul 2018 #52

I don't know about all that but he would have held the blue wall. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #63

LOLOLOLO!!! Hillary beat him badly. She won millions more votes than he did lunamagica Jul 2018 #77

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #91

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #97

Tired of this sad meme. HOW would Bernie have "destroyed" Trump? VOX Jul 2018 #100

LOL leftofcool Jul 2018 #105

Yeah, right dansolo Jul 2018 #157

Another yougov internet poll, Actually the results showed that Democrats wanted someone like Obama grantcart Jul 2018 #42

Also this is a bullshit online poll...This Clinton voter does not favor candidates like Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #43

... SidDithers Jul 2018 #49

Mahalo, Sid!! Cha Jul 2018 #73

Good to see you, Sid. VOX Jul 2018 #101

Then why are Our Revolution candidates failing in the most important races? RandySF Jul 2018 #51

Most are first time candidates with very little money. It can take several election cycles Quixote1818 Jul 2018 #55

And, Experienced Dems WINNING?! A little Secret.. Cha Jul 2018 #84

Do these "Dem" Voters know fallout87 Jul 2018 #54

Hopelessly vague question, meaningles poll. highplainsdem Jul 2018 #58

I'm one of those Dems. zentrum Jul 2018 #59

Count me among the 43% who don't. charlyvi Jul 2018 #60

But what to independent swing voters want? Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #110

If we have to placate fickled independent swing voters at the expense of the true base of the party Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #152

Less than half of people identify as Democrats Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #153

I don't really care how they identify. It's "independent swing voters" who keep "swinging" us from.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #159

Not a bad idea Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #160

Another self-selected online poll, weighted by party votes in 2012 and 2016. pnwmom Jul 2018 #62

More Not Democrats? Generic Brad Jul 2018 #66

Lol. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #67

... NurseJackie Jul 2018 #69

IKR! Cha Jul 2018 #79

Clicky clicky! NurseJackie Jul 2018 #82

Yeah, haven't we had our FILL Cha Jul 2018 #86

Online polls are so simple, even a monkey can do it... clicky-clicky! NurseJackie Jul 2018 #148

Yep sheshe2 Jul 2018 #147

What!? PDittie Jul 2018 #75

Perhaps an unabashed Democratic Socialist? YOHABLO Jul 2018 #78

I gather that most-magnifique-of-all monthly poll went south? ucrdem Jul 2018 #81

Then in all sincerity, they need to reflect that in who they vote for in primaries mythology Jul 2018 #89

Irrelevant poll without context compared to other candidates... Drunken Irishman Jul 2018 #90

horrible question. Should compare "more like Bernie or Obama" Hamlette Jul 2018 #94

This is compared to Trump, not other Democrats dansolo Jul 2018 #98

In any other state organization on Earth, HRC was a winner. democratisphere Jul 2018 #102

I want a proud DEMOCRAT who will punch, kick, bite, and spit in the eye of the New Fascists. VOX Jul 2018 #103

I want Bernie, or someone much more progressive than Hillary, just my opinion. Meadowoak Jul 2018 #106

Last gasp of the white male. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #107

"Last gasp of the white male," eh? What rubbish. PETRUS Jul 2018 #132

I don't think it's rubbish at all. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #133

"The wording of the poll..." More rubbish. nt PETRUS Jul 2018 #137

I voted for Bernie sellitman Jul 2018 #109

... LexVegas Jul 2018 #111

Highly skewed and unscientific poll. Virtually useless in the real world of politics and government. George II Jul 2018 #112

Like Bernie Sanders - so, Elizabeth Warren or Jeff Merkley NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #114

k&R disillusioned73 Jul 2018 #116

I'm always a little leery when a screen shot lapucelle Jul 2018 #121

Some surprising results when you get into the guts of the poll: George II Jul 2018 #122

I don't...Bernie was/is NOT a consensus builder and why his legislation accomplishments are FEW beachbum bob Jul 2018 #128

More want Biden than Sanders Nero Mero Jul 2018 #141

Who wins will vary by area. Bernie types can't win across much of America. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #144

Look at the QUESTION. Sparkly Jul 2018 #146

It's a misleading ridiculous push poll, created to give the false impression that Dem voters want... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #161

Definitely MORE like Bernie! Meadowoak Jul 2018 #154