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In reply to the discussion: Sanders-backed DNC plan sparks superdelegate revolt [View all]msongs
(67,346 posts)34. the democratic party should not aim to please republicans and other non party members nt
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It's one person one vote, regardless of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#7
Super Delegates did nothing wrong...the oh the email voters didn't vote for the Democratic nominee..
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#16
No matter. If the appearance of something shady is there, voters who are sad or
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#92
You need to back off as you're coming off horribly. Black folks are lazy? Really?
brush
Aug 2018
#234
I'm in California. Superdelegates are not necessarily Black. In fact, most of them
Sophia4
Aug 2018
#236
I'm guessing this month-old thread was resurrected because the CBC is against any changes.
George II
Aug 2018
#260
I know of four who will be attending the meeting, none are members of the CBC, who are against it.
George II
Aug 2018
#281
It is lazy to want a superdelegate say in the outcome of the nomination process.
Sophia4
Aug 2018
#231
The ATTACK of supers and Nancy Pelosi is an orchestrated KGB operation
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#245
Does that "bunch of lazy folks who want to intervene in democratic elections"
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#246
And even that year (assuming you're talking about 1984?) it wasn't truly shady, it just....
George II
Aug 2018
#261
They comprise about 15% of the available delegates and are there to over rule the will of the ...
CentralMass
Aug 2018
#327
Again you are wrong as to everything as to how delegates are elected in the real world
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#71
Rep. Cedric Richmond, the Congressional Black Caucus chair, blasts proposed superdelegate changes
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#265
That is the reality, while some want to push the false assertion that is what happened in 2016, and
still_one
Jul 2018
#12
So you want to reduce the number of delegates from states with elected Democrats?
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#280
What are you talking about? Which election has been affected by superdelegates?
lunamagica
Jul 2018
#10
Sanders supporters feelings were hurt because super delegates refuse to support sanders
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#151
CAUSUSES give all voters the impression the Democratic party is not big on democracy.
pnwmom
Jul 2018
#45
And? Some of us had no idea how they worked. They blow. Taht doesn't make me a fan of
JCanete
Jul 2018
#131
Well, they've been around for a long time. So, why the contrived outrage starting in 2016?
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#133
again, not contrived.. I had no idea the shit worked that way and it pisses me off. Why doesn't it
JCanete
Jul 2018
#134
But many others have known about superdelegates and their purpose. They aren't remotely new.
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#136
well what the hell would be the point of voting then, if somebody else was going to decide for us
JCanete
Jul 2018
#147
viewed by who as unelectable? Surely not the electorate, since their votes..."would have" spoken.
JCanete
Jul 2018
#164
a circumstance that makes each vote roughly equivalent to 10,000 regular votes. What exactly happens
JCanete
Jul 2018
#187
There are 4763 delegates (4051 pledged) sent to the convention. One must reach 2382...
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#192
first, define "only in extreme circumstances". If the electorate votes one way, then clearly
JCanete
Jul 2018
#198
Such as damaging news coming to light late in the primary season or after the last primary.
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#199
then you weren't paying attention to the news and the way the race was being reported, particularly
JCanete
Jul 2018
#201
I paid attention, but we clearly have a different take on the reporting. Regardless...
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#202
people don't so often just go and vote for the loser...the person they think is already out of the
JCanete
Jul 2018
#204
Should get rid of it. Repubs don't have it, and they vote more reliably (won't miss an opportunity
Meadowoak
Aug 2018
#278
If what you say is true, and it is, then we have nothing to fear if we end the superdelegate
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#100
I am a real lifelong Democrat. I have probably worked in more campaigns than most
Sophia4
Aug 2018
#289
You refused to support the nominee of the party and so I do not think that you are a real democrat
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#290
You are dead wrong. Super delegate are the off switch that prevents a democratic Trump.
Blue_true
Jul 2018
#165
The Democrats are a POLITICAL PARTY. The SCOTUS has ruled that political parties
stopbush
Jul 2018
#121
I tell you what I find ironic. You are against SD, but you are all for Open Primaries, which perhaps
still_one
Jul 2018
#83
I don't care how many people you registered. If people want to decide who will be the DEMORATIC
still_one
Jul 2018
#90
I disagree with you. I think there has to be a way to encourage people to register
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#95
I am in Northern Califronia, and the jungle primary is insane. We were just damn lucky that we
still_one
Jul 2018
#102
Yes I have, multiple elections, multiple times going door to door. Also extensive phone banking
still_one
Jul 2018
#114
Yes you can. You make the field of PARTY PREFERENCE HIDDEN. If you are looking to canvass just
still_one
Jul 2018
#120
It makes it easy, perhaps, for unscrupulous people to persuade gullible people...
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#129
Nope, it's not the point. You can't live your life based on other people's warped sense of reality.
stevenleser
Jul 2018
#173
If you want to win elections, you have to consider how people see you, how they
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#179
Nope, you don't consider lunatics in your strategy. Focus on sane people. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2018
#188
Generally speaking, I think the media made the distinction clear. And the media loves a horse race.
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#156
We should strive for the reality AND appearance of utmost fairness and honesty.
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#163
It prevents food fights in close elections...and I want it to stay...called the DNC and said so.
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#11
Superdelegates give to voters who lose the impression that the election or nomination
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#18
If voters have the "impression" that the process is unfair, "rigged," then they
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#111
People have all kinds of impressions. We can't be responsible for them.Some people believe in ghosts
stevenleser
Jul 2018
#172
Spot on, especially this: "if they make no difference really in the end, why have them?"
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2018
#59
Why have auto insurance if you're a good driver or health insurance if you're healthy?
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#177
Why have them? They're an insurance policy. Like having health insurance even if you're healthy.
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#88
We are supposed to accept the opinions of non-democrats as to how the party should be managed
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#295
You have no evidence of that either way since super delegates have never affected
stevenleser
Jul 2018
#47
We do need a mechanism to deal with deadlocks, but superdelegates are not what
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#107
So members of the Congressional Black Caucus are lazy, corrupt and party hacks
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#267
and OPEN PRIMARIES SHOULD BE CLOSED TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT REGISTERED DEMOCRATS
still_one
Jul 2018
#15
There should be a way for certain independents and third-party registered voters to
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#19
Why should a non-Democrat choose the Democratic nominee? No it ISN'T complicated. Those who do NOT
still_one
Jul 2018
#24
As I pointed out, some people may, for professional reasons for example, need to
Sophia4
Jul 2018
#27
Actually if you perceive that as a problem, that solution is very simple, just change the rules so
still_one
Jul 2018
#36
Absolutely. They want to get rid of SD, fine, but the day the Democratic party opens up the primary
still_one
Jul 2018
#84
Caucuses are the only reason the 2016 primary was even remotely close, so I doubt it.
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#53
the democratic party should not aim to please republicans and other non party members nt
msongs
Jul 2018
#34
They'll still be able to endorse whoever they want. And vote. Just not on the first ballot.
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#54
There should not be a mechanism to allow a select few to change the will of the electorate in an
CentralMass
Aug 2018
#338
Additional new DNC Rule-Presidential candidates must publicly affirm that they are a Democrat
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#76
Oh, FFS! Superdelegates make sure grassroot members of the party gets *more* say, not less!
KitSileya
Jul 2018
#80
uh...why is it idiotic? Because some people's votes should cancel out 1000's? How weird that
JCanete
Jul 2018
#130
Historically superdelegates have wielded zero power - they have never determined....
George II
Aug 2018
#257
Then first, why do we need them if they wield 0 power, and second, I'm not convinced
JCanete
Aug 2018
#270
The CBC are leaders of a key demographic groups which votes for real democrats
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#294
They have a seat at the table. You are talking about something entirely different than a
JCanete
Aug 2018
#297
don't pretend its about the right to vote. Every superdelegate has the right to vote, like every
JCanete
Aug 2018
#301
The proposal is to strip members of the CBC and other super delegates of their vote
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#302
Again magic does not exist and sanders was not viable without the aide of magic
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#304
"I know you were there and I wasn't, but let me explain what really happened..."
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#305
What? We aren't talking about who was somehwere and who wasn't. wow. We're talking about
JCanete
Aug 2018
#319
I do not believe in magic and without a magical voter revolution sanders was not viable
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#324
Since you are NOT full of shit, and since that ATTACK is visible I want to make sure I say over and
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#307
No one knows in advance what "Supers would or would not do." We certainly know....
George II
Aug 2018
#317
I agree that it is dumb to adopt this rule just to make sanders and his supporters happy
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#341
I still don't think we should have superdelegates. No one's vote should have the power to negate
Vinca
Jul 2018
#170
If I vote for the person running against the person you voted for, am I negating your vote?
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#174
You may if you're a superdelegate. It depends on the final numbers in the primary.
Vinca
Jul 2018
#175
There are 4763 delegates (4051 pledged) sent to the convention. One must reach 2382...
Garrett78
Jul 2018
#176
more likely that was justification to stay in the race when so much noise was being made to get
JCanete
Jul 2018
#190
I've explained my issues with Superdelagates in the past, one of which major issue is how they are
JCanete
Jul 2018
#218
The whole Sanders run was based upon moving the party to the left, which, if you look at the
JCanete
Jul 2018
#220
Sanders platform was based on unrealistic assumptions about a so-called revolution
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#221
Rep. Cedric Richmond, the Congressional Black Caucus chair, blasts proposed superdelegate changes
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#223
I was a delegate to the national convention and was at the Texas breakfast where we had a revolt
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#210
You do understand that the proposed rule deprives superdelegates of the right to vote?
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#258
GRU and GOP have done an amazing job getting Democrats to go against their own party
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#332