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27. "Wayne County turnout dropped in 2012 and dropped more in 2016"

Unlike Philadelphia, where the county and the city is the same, these "counties" with "dropoffs" have people OUTSIDE OF THE CITIES that are sitting on asses.

There is an insidious talking point that has started that blames minorities in deep blue cities, with the expectation that only they can save the country, which keeps people from encouraging their suburban neighbors to up their antes, and giving them a pass.

In Philadelphia, there was basically a 4000 vote difference (exact numbers shown below) between 2016 and 2012 for the Democratic candidate. Here is what I posted in a now locked troll thread -https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10799588

CLINTON, HILLARY
(DEM)
82.53%
Votes: 584,025
Running mate: TIM KAINE

TRUMP, DONALD J
(REP)
15.37%
Votes: 108,748
Running mate: MICHAEL R PENCE

DIFFERENCE = 475,277


THIRD PARTY

CASTLE, DARRELL L
(CON)
0.15%
Votes: 1,064
Running mate: SCOTT N BRADLEY

STEIN, JILL
(GRN)
0.94%
Votes: 6,679 <--
Running mate: AJAMU BARAKA

JOHNSON, GARY E
(LIB)
1.01%
Votes: 7,115
Running mate: WILLIAM WELD

TOTAL 3RD PARTY = 14,858 <--

https://electionreturns.pa.gov/General/CountyResults?countyName=Philadelphia&ElectionID=54&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

In the past bunch of Presidentials, the total "3rd party" votes here in Philly were usually no more than about 5000 total votes. I.e.,

2004 = 1,765
2008 = 4,128
2012 = 5,054

But 2016 had 3 times that. Hmm....

Here were the 2012 votes in Philly -

ROMNEY, MITT
(REP)
13.97%
Votes: 96,467
Running mate: RYAN,PAUL

OBAMA, BARACK
(DEM)
85.29%
Votes: 588,806
Running mate: BIDEN,JOE


THIRD PARTY

STEIN, JILL
(GRN)
0.31%
Votes: 2,162
Running mate: HONKALA,CHERI

JOHNSON, GARY
(LIB)
0.42%
Votes: 2,892
Running mate: GRAY,JAMES P

TOTAL 3RD PARTY = 5,054

https://electionreturns.pa.gov/General/CountyResults?countyName=Philadelphia&ElectionID=27&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

The difference was 4,781 votes out of the city between Clinton and Obama. But note what DID increase in 2016 - the 3rd party vote, where Stein increased her totals by 4,517 votes since 2012. Meaning you need to dive down deeper into the numbers beyond the superficial. I.e., you need to look at the above to see what was impacting the totals and you will find it was the 3rd parties - most significantly Gary Johnson and just behind him, Jill Stein - i.e, there were WHITE GOP/Indie voters here in Philly who probably voted for the first time and voted for 3rd parties.

And when you TOTAL the difference in turnout between 2012 and 2016 here in Philadelphia, there were 690,327 in 2012 and 707,631 in 2016, which means there were 17,304 MORE VOTERS IN 2016 than in 2012.

Here are our figures in Philly for the last 4 Presidential elections (links are in the above repost for each year) -

674,069 - 2004
717,329 - 2008
690,327 - 2012
707,631 - 2016

Again, I am sick of the "blame" being put on "minorities" while whites sit on their asses and debate - "Well... I don't like voting for the 'lesser of 2 evils'" and "Well... I have to 'vote my principles'" and other bullshit. POC don't have that luxury. It's vote for the Democrat or die.