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In reply to the discussion: Sanders gets best reception at early 2020 audition [View all]Gothmog
(145,133 posts)87. Nader was rove's puppet
I will never forgive nader Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html
Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of, Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: Whats Al Gores real record? Nader says: Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken. Mecklers report continued: A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Naders speeches. Bushs people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....
On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independents Bid a Financial Lift, and reported that the Nader campaign has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, according to an analysis of federal records. Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egans other friends. Mr. Egans wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year. Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under Swift Boat Veterans for Nader, that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerrys Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Naders signatures in their state (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing states 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bushs big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.
It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bushs real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. Thats why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
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Actually I think the reception was because he brought a box o' joe and two dozen munchkins.
George II
Jun 2018
#103
Me too! Not bad for someone who's not a Democrat... Bernie never fails to deliver the goods!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#16
Yes, being the most popular prospective 2020 presidentilal candidate is SOOO overrated!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#17
"Perhaps the most vigorous applause in the room was for the outgoing congressman Luis Gutirrez..."
oberliner
Jun 2018
#10
Which is why delegates and not actual vote counts are always mentioned by Sanders
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#96
There seem to be people who honestly think the 2016 race was close. Either that or...
Garrett78
Jun 2018
#108
Write in Hillary? What happened to unity behind the duly elected Democratic presidential nominee?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#27
So what will the Democratic Party do if Bernie becomes that popular with Dem voters?
YOHABLO
Jun 2018
#24
We will all unite in rallying behind Bernie in 2020, just as we did in supporting Hillary in 2016...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#29
Some 2,000 internal DNC emails were released the day before the convention
AtomicKitten
Jun 2018
#245
Thing is, it will never happen. He is not going to get away wuth not showing his full tax returns
lunamagica
Jun 2018
#102
"since when is it appropriate it to hold the sins of the spouse against the candidate?!"
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#117
If you have ZERO doubt he will disclose his tax retrurns, why hasn't he done it already?
lunamagica
Jun 2018
#119
IKR? releasing full tax returns goes a long way to show a candidates honesty and transparency
lunamagica
Jun 2018
#123
Bernie has shown AMAZING transparency when it comes to what he has had to say to Wall Street bankers
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#125
Transparency? The real transparecy would have been to show his tax retuns, not his empty words
lunamagica
Jun 2018
#189
As I've said, repeatedIy, I don't know 4 sure why Bernie didn't release his tax returns.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#238
Thanks for you reply. If your guess is correct, why did he say that Jane was looking for them?
lunamagica
Jun 2018
#242
Bernie himself seemed to have had sketchy goings ons that no release of tax returns
Blue_true
Jun 2018
#169
No question Bernie SHOULD, and WILL, join the ranks of the Democratic Party IF he runs again...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#128
It is too late. He isn't going to become popular with Democrats. he had a shot last time
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#66
I'll vote for ANY Democrat, but I like how Bernie, Harris, Booker and Warren are waking the nation
DemocracyMouse
Jun 2018
#32
It tells me that he lacks commitment. I just don't see this as a "winning" message.
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#182
Not sure about his "loyalists," as you call 'em, but Bernie speaks the truth...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2018
#227
She'll have to defend her support of ICE which was part of the Patriot Act
AtomicKitten
Jun 2018
#247
My point being that anecdotal observations are not a good criteria to judge things,
still_one
Jun 2018
#49
Bullshit. The same lies and distortions were spewed how there was no difference between republicans
still_one
Jun 2018
#81
Yes I am. Working and pushing ideas within the Democratic party is important. That appears to be
still_one
Jun 2018
#86
He entered the venue as an angel, borne aloft by the wings of ten thousand butterflies.
VOX
Jun 2018
#53
The devotees were smitten and behold a tax return descended to the masses . . .
grantcart
Jun 2018
#90
No. And we wouldn't boo him at the convention, either. Because that would just be fucking stupid.
Squinch
Jun 2018
#107
I would really like to see a younger candidate. It seems like the old guard will be running from the
Vinca
Jun 2018
#57
You know this party is in fucking trouble when it wants to run an 80-year-old man for president.
BlueStater
Jun 2018
#61
The ACA is the step towards it - NO universal health care will be acheived in under 20 years.
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#154
And yeah, they started a long time ago, and didn't retrofit a baked-in system of insurance.
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#216
Actually, it was a very long time ago, before health insurance was baked in to the economy
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#221
A "hard-left progressive" has no chance of winning. What is your definition of...
George II
Jun 2018
#199
"we're working towards it! (nevermind we take money from big pharma/insurance too)"
George II
Jun 2018
#222
Actually, it is the closest we have ever come, and it was and is intended to expand to
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#144
Voting is where it counts. Who gives a shit who a horde of elitists cheer? nt
Blue_true
Jun 2018
#159
Twitler stole all of Bernie's talking points and Bernie never spoke out against him
kimbutgar
Jun 2018
#212