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lapucelle

(18,190 posts)
103. "Even confronted with figures and data to the contrary, Sanders appeared to have still struggled
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jun 2018

to grasp that he had made an error, the two people present said."

Vermont’s Criminal Justice System: A Series Unveiling Challenges & Practices

Vermont has one of the worst track records when it comes to the criminal justice system. According to Vermonters for Criminal Justice Reform (VCJR) white people are equally as likely to be involved with drugs as black people are, yet, "on average, black and brown people are incarcerated in Vermont state prisons at a rate 5.1 times higher the imprisonment of whites. Vermont has a higher rate of incarceration of black and brown men than any other state. 1 in 14 black and brown men in the state of Vermont are incarcerated.'"

"Drug laws exist to police people of color," said Joanna Colwell, a community activist. "That is a national issue, though, not just a Vermont issue. It’s a double whammy: the law itself is racist and then you have those racist laws implemented in a way that is even more unfair to people of color."

According to the 2010 census, while only 1.1 percent of Vermont’s population is black, blacks make up 10.7 percent of the Vermont prison population.

https://middleburycampus.com/37955/local/vermonts-criminal-justice-system-a-series-unveiling-challenges-practices/

This is just one of the problems with unvetted R B Garr Jun 2018 #1
Well of course he said that MrPool Jun 2018 #3
Weaver will be along to explain, as soon as he dries his eyes Wwcd Jun 2018 #4
Yes. There goes his civil rights cred...? It's not just R B Garr Jun 2018 #6
This is why I have no need to step anywhere outside my Democratic Party. Wwcd Jun 2018 #2
This is more or less why the 2016 Democratic Primary was essentially over by the 2nd week of March. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #5
If this had come out then it would really been over and we could've... brush Jun 2018 #150
You've got to be fuckin kidding me uponit7771 Jun 2018 #7
For starters big pharma sells malaise Jun 2018 #141
Yeah, we wasted all that time on a divisive campaign that would've been over... brush Jun 2018 #151
Most black people reside in the South, which go Red. joshcryer Jun 2018 #8
When will they learn that we still need Dems to turn out in red states? Dopers_Greed Jun 2018 #11
All they care about is the Presidency. joshcryer Jun 2018 #12
Some of those states in the South are turning Purple. Adrahil Jun 2018 #92
We saw the arguments to mollify the white working class by downplaying sexism and racism constantly- bettyellen Jun 2018 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Jun 2018 #9
seriously? Hamlette Jun 2018 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Jun 2018 #13
maybe because he keeps kicking us? Hamlette Jun 2018 #61
I supported Sanders in the Primary and Hillary in the General but being fairly new, I am starting to airmid Jun 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Jun 2018 #15
Voting with to send a message or "heart" is how Trump got elected...with help from the Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #36
Quoting Sanders isn't "Bernie-hate". eom EffieBlack Jun 2018 #53
Lots of us here support Bernie Kentonio Jun 2018 #16
Yeah...I am still learning all the technical things here like trashing threads and such. I just airmid Jun 2018 #17
You know what I hate...Trump. I hate that DACA kids are in danger, I hate that the liar Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #37
I agree radical noodle Jun 2018 #46
We need to elect every damn Democrat...moderate liberal...doesn't matter. After reviewing Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #90
Exactly! radical noodle Jun 2018 #108
Yep, we can beat the GOP is we stick together. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #146
I have never voted for any other Party but Democratic. airmid Jun 2018 #139
I haven't either. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #145
so did I & if D party voters accept the divisiveness of bernie hate & the 'new' 'leftist' word, Sunlei Jun 2018 #18
lol stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #79
"While I will just pull back, for some this will be a reason to just stay home." betsuni Jun 2018 #87
Doesn't the fact that he thought AAs were drug dealers compel you... brush Jun 2018 #135
I never said nor implied he is perfect. If I held up every wrong or idiotic thing people said, every airmid Jun 2018 #138
How you interpret what I wrote as laughing at you I will never know. brush Jun 2018 #143
Sitting home isn't going to stop Trump. Lots of people here like Bernie. Stay and defend him. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #153
Because quoting BS is kicking BS. Squinch Jun 2018 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Jun 2018 #22
That is absolutely the point. No one is bashing BS. Squinch Jun 2018 #23
Since when is what a politician says in the past off limits? betsuni Jun 2018 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Jun 2018 #34
But you have no opinion on what he said? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #38
Criticism of sacred cows is always perceived as "bashing." LanternWaste Jun 2018 #45
If we have to hear - again and again - that "Bernie marched for civil rights in the '60s," we can ce EffieBlack Jun 2018 #54
+1 Hekate Jun 2018 #64
+2 betsuni Jun 2018 #72
You have to figure it on the "white" time scale and the"black" time scale. grantcart Jun 2018 #106
Lol! EffieBlack Jun 2018 #131
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #122
Those are Bernie's own words. That is the point. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #82
Sander's did say heaven05 Jun 2018 #27
Sharing his own words is "kicking him?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #81
He certainly missed an opportunity GaryCnf Jun 2018 #19
He also said this, and how anybody doesn't know this common knowledge amazes me: betsuni Jun 2018 #21
Wow, that's amazing. Common knowledge is exactly right. Even if you're not R B Garr Jun 2018 #50
".. quoting is bashing.." lol Cha Jun 2018 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #24
"They" are scared to death of Bernie. Must be doing something right. n/t Fix The Stupid Jun 2018 #25
no, nothing to be scared of heaven05 Jun 2018 #28
You did not fix it. betsuni Jun 2018 #31
'They" being the people who want to unify and Squinch Jun 2018 #32
Sure, I am scared to death Sen Sanders may cost us the 2020 election...Divide the electorate. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #39
And based on his past behavior he won't concede when he is comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #58
And the party...as well...that is my worry. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #71
Wall Street and the big corporations definitely don't want Bernie or his ideas. jalan48 Jun 2018 #62
Where is Tad Devine? R B Garr Jun 2018 #101
Oh that Bernie! Doesn't he know that now is the time to be sucking up to the big banks and jalan48 Jun 2018 #110
Oh! Speaking of tens of millions! Tad Devine knows R B Garr Jun 2018 #113
Yes, yes. Bernie just has to be some type of operative. He's probably been one since his days of jalan48 Jun 2018 #114
Tad Devine worked with the kingpin of "operatives" R B Garr Jun 2018 #115
I've heard Goldman Sachs pays really well for "speeches". jalan48 Jun 2018 #116
I've heard of FBI bank fraud investigations... R B Garr Jun 2018 #117
Time will tell on the one hand but not on the other. jalan48 Jun 2018 #118
Time has already told. When asked to name what R B Garr Jun 2018 #119
It was uncomfortable, I agree. jalan48 Jun 2018 #120
And now we have Trump. R B Garr Jun 2018 #121
Yes we do, but then we had Bush/Cheney (torture), Bush Sr.and Reagan. Hopefully we can come jalan48 Jun 2018 #123
Yes, vote for the Democrat. I think we'll see some great pickups, too. nt R B Garr Jun 2018 #129
I'm on board with that. jalan48 Jun 2018 #133
Perfect! R B Garr Jun 2018 #134
Protesters shut down Pennsylvania Avenue today. lapucelle Jun 2018 #127
Great to see! jalan48 Jun 2018 #132
Who is they? People who repeat what he says? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #83
"They" betsuni Jun 2018 #85
And since his moniker is "fix the stupid" add a few more rows. grantcart Jun 2018 #105
Yes, he really scares me. And it isn't because he is "doing something right" lunamagica Jun 2018 #112
I don't see the "error" here on Sanders' part ExciteBike66 Jun 2018 #26
I voice of reason in an OP posted for only one purpose. Nanjeanne Jun 2018 #29
Exactly...these people are so transparent... Fix The Stupid Jun 2018 #35
Are you saying, Fix the Stupid, that the OP is a paid propagandist? Also that those who agree... Hekate Jun 2018 #66
... Fix The Stupid Jun 2018 #93
The cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river. betsuni Jun 2018 #98
You need to look in the mirror.. all you have are personal Cha Jun 2018 #68
What, give back all this money just for posting paid propaganda on DU? betsuni Jun 2018 #74
"these people. " Nice. NT Adrahil Jun 2018 #107
Some questions reveal more than just a persons lack of knowledge on a subject uponit7771 Jun 2018 #56
This might make sense if the question were asked by a Republican, but ExciteBike66 Jun 2018 #80
Sanders has made a number of unfortunate remarks about identity politics and advanced Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #91
I don't expect the politicians who I am open to supporting to always be right Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #33
Having an opinion that Black people are most of the drug dealers and then having some one refute Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #40
POC forgave Hillary for the 'superpredator' remarks leftstreet Jun 2018 #41
Bill Clinton had a long history with POC. Sen. Sanders doesn't have that. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #43
It could hurt him in a primary, depending on who else runs Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #47
Believe me I would much prefer to have Sen. Sanders sitting in the White House than the Orange Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #73
I agree that Senator Sander's age is a concern of mine as well Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #95
I say the same thing about Biden whom I have adored for years...we need younger blood. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #147
Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #48
1. She wasn't referring to black people, 2. It was mostly Russians saying she was uponit7771 Jun 2018 #57
+1000. nt ecstatic Jun 2018 #75
"She wasn't referring to black people" You can't be serious. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #97
Sigh, you nor Kirsten quoted Clinton or posted a vid or transcripts cause ... uponit7771 Jun 2018 #109
Yeah. It's a racist dog whistle of the time. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #126
So when right-wingers talk about "thugs" or "urban thugs" or..... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #137
Bill & Hillary developed and nurtured relationships with POC even when the cameras weren't rolling. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2018 #59
This Hekate Jun 2018 #67
Exactly right. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #88
I thought Bernie didn't need any "schooling" on race ... EffieBlack Jun 2018 #55
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2018 #60
Not on right and wrong he didn't. Not on standing up for all people's rights. Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #65
Riiiiight EffieBlack Jun 2018 #70
I can confirm that. A friend of mine worked in the Clinton Administration DFW Jun 2018 #78
I never have nor ever would accuse you or any Black Americans of being clueless or confused Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #94
+1 progressoid Jun 2018 #104
Wow, this is a lot of overthinking just to protect a huge R B Garr Jun 2018 #111
This EffieBlack Jun 2018 #124
++++ nt brer cat Jun 2018 #130
Tom can I say to you, I respect your knowledge of the issues and how you treat everyone with Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #149
I had to read the article to know it was Bernie Sanders who said this DesertRat Jun 2018 #42
K&R Gothmog Jun 2018 #44
Oh goodness... disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #49
I would like to see a politician with a socialist focus like Sanders who isn't Sanders... HopeAgain Jun 2018 #51
When someone tells you "I don't see color. I'm color-blind," it means he is half blind indeed... Hekate Jun 2018 #63
+ a million. K n R Wwcd Jun 2018 #76
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #84
If the bird had just taken a dump on the saviors podium maybe Dump wouldn't have happened. fleabiscuit Jun 2018 #77
hahaha - that is a good one... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #89
This was a dumb thing to say... vi5 Jun 2018 #86
Joe Manchin? When he runs for POTUS, give us a call, and we'll talk. Until then the subject.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2018 #140
Garbage strawman n/t emulatorloo Jun 2018 #154
The way he phrased the question betrays his biases and assumptions Lee-Lee Jun 2018 #96
Exactly. He wasn't asking a question to obtain information about something he thought he didn't know EffieBlack Jun 2018 #125
It's upsetting to me that this didn't come out during the campaign. brush Jun 2018 #148
Sanders is not winning friends or support Gothmog Jun 2018 #99
When you target urban areas for drugs mercuryblues Jun 2018 #100
I really really appreciate the time you take to bear this witness and tell the simple truth. Anon-C Jun 2018 #102
from the schools mercuryblues Jun 2018 #136
Thanks for adding this. nt brer cat Jun 2018 #128
"Even confronted with figures and data to the contrary, Sanders appeared to have still struggled lapucelle Jun 2018 #103
Kick...nt SidDithers Jun 2018 #142
Seems a wee bit tone deaf. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #144
so many sanders.. sarah? bernie? now symone.. i need a play book samnsara Jun 2018 #152
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