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msanthrope

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40. I take it Turley's still sore over the public spanking he got in Kucinich v. Obama?
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 10:22 PM
Jan 2012

This 'constitutional scholar' was recently taken to task by a federal judge for filing a case he knew would be thrown for standing--so either Turley was too stupid to understand the standing question, or, as Judge Reggie Walton pointed out, he's a political hack.


4. Interestingly, Representative Kucinich, the lead plaintiff in Kucinich v. Bush, the case in which these words were written, is the lead plaintiff in this case in which members of Congress are again attempting to bring an action against Executive Branch officials. Indeed, the plaintiffs "acknowledge the contrary result" reached by the District of Columbia Circuit in a case also involving alleged presidential violations of the War Powers Clause and the War Powers Resolution. See Pls.' Opp'n at 17. While there may conceivably be some political benefit in suing the President and the Secretary of Defense, in light of shrinking judicial budgets, scarce judicial resources, and a heavy caseload, the Court finds it frustrating to expend time and effort adjudicating the relitigation of settled questions of law. The Court does not mean to imply that the judiciary should be anything but open and accommodating to all members of society, but is simply expressing its dismay that the plaintiffs are seemingly using the limited resources of this Court to achieve what appear to be purely political ends, when it should be clear to them that this Court is powerless to depart from clearly established precedent of the Supreme Court and the District of Columbia Circuit.


https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2011cv1096-14



I note that Turley didn't disclose that he'd recently lost a case against Obama--and felt it necessary to take to his blog to defend himself against said footnote---but we are supposed to see him as impartial? Fair???

http://jonathanturley.org/2011/10/20/federal-judge-dismisses-war-powers-challenge-by-members-of-congress/#more-40743






yup....john better look out for the bus. madrchsod Jan 2012 #1
especially since only "you know who" is speaking out against this in their campaign think Jan 2012 #2
In other words, some anonymous people on the internet will disagree with him. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #3
You are really a peach HangOnKids Jan 2012 #18
Turley stood up to the BFEE Octafish Jan 2012 #4
"why didn't he ever criticize Bush?!!!" MisterP Jan 2012 #7
Remember in 2001, how most everybody's brains turned to mush after 9-11? Octafish Jan 2012 #27
I respect Turley. He calls em' like he sees em'! n/t Little Star Jan 2012 #89
The "constitutional scholar" seems to rely on hyperbole, rather than the constitution, for arguments bhikkhu Jan 2012 #5
Put this in quotation marks: Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #6
End the war, how? Especially without rocking the party vote? TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #9
Said "constitutional scholar" just lost a case against Obama, and got spanked by the judge. msanthrope Jan 2012 #42
Thanks for the information about him bhikkhu Jan 2012 #52
Fixed. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #64
Welcome to DU!!! You are very comfortable for such a newbie! Welcome! Edit- msanthrope Jan 2012 #68
Lol, good girls never tell! i_sometimes Jan 2012 #75
So you post on DU2 on one name, and DU3 as another? nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #79
And the fact that the 2001 military authorization is appalling is beside the point? eridani Jan 2012 #54
This. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #65
Welcome! What was your previous username, so we all know who you are? msanthrope Jan 2012 #73
Exactly - it is the primary point bhikkhu Jan 2012 #70
Clinton broke the law. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #76
Tell us which law he broke. Cite the statute? nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #80
Just got back i_sometimes Jan 2012 #87
You can't answer my question so I go on ignore? Awesome! nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #90
Turley ProSense Jan 2012 #8
As do you, going so far to ignore some of those who wrote the damn thing. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #10
Oh, ProSense Jan 2012 #20
Did you know that Obama has executed American citizens without trial? GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #60
So did Lincoln. The Constitution allows this during times of war. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #74
shorter version Enrique Jan 2012 #11
LOL! City Lights Jan 2012 #12
Right ProSense Jan 2012 #22
i haven't read your analysis yet Enrique Jan 2012 #24
Isn't ProSense Jan 2012 #25
Lol. RUMMYisFROSTED Jan 2012 #61
No doubt. NCTraveler Jan 2012 #83
Incomplete--Turley just lost a case to Obama. Turley now criticizes Obama. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #43
Was the case related, even tangentially, to the NDAA? Occulus Jan 2012 #88
Turley just lost a case to Obama in a very public way--see post 40. msanthrope Jan 2012 #44
This is a terrible provision of the NDAA, but where's the outrage at Congress? boxman15 Jan 2012 #13
Congress gets a free pass, because it's easier to bash Obama killbotfactory Jan 2012 #14
Congress is useless and ineffective on both sides. Obama could have vetoed. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #16
Damn Shame n/t HangOnKids Jan 2012 #21
This bill was passed with VETO PROOF majorities. nt killbotfactory Jan 2012 #23
So if vetoing a bill is the right thing to do ... tledford Jan 2012 #33
It's not that bizarre. It would take congress another month or two to pass it. killbotfactory Jan 2012 #37
Two months of no funding for the VA. I can imagine how kindly the "liberal media" would treat that. Robb Jan 2012 #45
Nah, better to do childish shit just to prove a point rather than do something constructive uponit7771 Jan 2012 #99
Now stop that. He did have reservations about signing it. Autumn Jan 2012 #30
leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #91
Ummm, George Dumbya Bush got EVERYTHING he wanted from congress.... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #78
No, he didn't. killbotfactory Jan 2012 #92
Umm, yeah, he kinda did... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #94
He wanted to destroy social security, as I recall. killbotfactory Jan 2012 #96
Congress is getting a free pass tavalon Jan 2012 #95
There would be negative consequences to a veto killbotfactory Jan 2012 #97
Congress has a 9% approval rating n/t Enrique Jan 2012 #17
And yet, most people stay away from voting in a non-presidential election year. killbotfactory Jan 2012 #26
scootch over Greenwald - you have more company under the bus. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #15
What is your problem lillypaddle Jan 2012 #31
!!!!! one_voice Jan 2012 #34
They're bullies lillypaddle Jan 2012 #36
Can Turley wait his turn please? This board is not yet done with the Greenwald hate festival. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #19
see #31 lillypaddle Jan 2012 #32
Yes, you must be getting impatient Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #35
Oh no! Oilwellian Jan 2012 #28
I'm listening to Norman Goldman, lillypaddle Jan 2012 #29
Turley went after Clinton in Monicagate. No time for him. WinkyDink Jan 2012 #38
Turley sued Obama and lost. Note how neither Turley, nor the OP, note that. msanthrope Jan 2012 #41
Because our pro Citizens United court system is just so wonderful, right? n/t eridani Jan 2012 #55
So ProSense Jan 2012 #66
Um, Turley liked CU. And chose to file in the court system that gave that msanthrope Jan 2012 #69
Jonathan Turley never really loved him! QC Jan 2012 #39
I take it Turley's still sore over the public spanking he got in Kucinich v. Obama? msanthrope Jan 2012 #40
Interesting. Robb Jan 2012 #46
Too ProSense Jan 2012 #48
Yes. He's stamping his widdle feet in a snit. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #47
He's been in a snit ever since he supported the Clinton impeachment-- msanthrope Jan 2012 #50
Hear Hear, Ma'am! The Magistrate Jan 2012 #53
Ouch. joshcryer Jan 2012 #56
It's ProSense Jan 2012 #63
Fascinating! ProSense Jan 2012 #49
Frankly, Judge Walton took the same tone with Orly Taitz, too. msanthrope Jan 2012 #51
too many deaf ears.. FirstLight Jan 2012 #57
Then you should consider broadening your horizons Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #58
Quite a contrast, indeed. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #85
When Pinochet used the Army to capture and threaten the Chilean parliament fasttense Jan 2012 #59
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #62
Wow, who to believe...Jonathan Turley NorthCarolina Jan 2012 #67
Durn Tarheel sensibilities! i_sometimes Jan 2012 #77
Me too... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #81
"Obama sycophants on DU" ProSense Jan 2012 #84
Turley's is a reasonable if somewhat mild response to a fascist law. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #71
Oh, c'mon. We can trust the miliatary and government to do the right thing. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #72
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #82
How far we have fallen. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #86
feh. turley likes to get his name in print. the compromise language makes clear that the ndaa cannot struggle4progress Jan 2012 #93
He loves the sound of his own voice on TV bluestateguy Jan 2012 #98
What is the point of this signing statemnt then? Maraya1969 Jan 2012 #100
Turley is proof their are too many lawyers. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #101
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