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In reply to the discussion: DNC Rule Change: Want Dem nomination for President? Must be a Democrat and run and serve as a Dem [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)63. All of that depends. Register as a Democrat, Caucus as a Democrat, don't attack the party.
If a Progressive follows those rules and Manchin doesn't, then the Progressive is preferred.
This isn't hard or nefarious no matter how some try to make it so.
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DNC Rule Change: Want Dem nomination for President? Must be a Democrat and run and serve as a Dem [View all]
stevenleser
Jun 2018
OP
Myopic BS that gave us candidates that are besties with payday lenders and private prisons
pecosbob
Jun 2018
#141
This isn't complicated. Register as a Democrat, stay that way, and caucus with Democrats. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#7
I don't think there is a way to Register as a Dem in, say, Vermont. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Jun 2018
#98
This comes up all the time, but Patrick Leahy has RUN as a Democrat for decades. See:
George II
Jun 2018
#122
That's not the same as *registering* as a Dem, which is what SL wanted in the comment I replied to.
thesquanderer
Jun 2018
#127
Yes there is too...that is simply untrue. Sen. Sander is running in the Democratic primary
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#149
He could register if he chose...in fact he did in 16 and promised to remain a Dem...it is on google.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#166
It's West fucking Virginia... I'll take it! And I'll be glad to have it! It is what it is.
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#66
If they caucus with the Dems, they give you the same numbers as if they were Dems (n/t)
thesquanderer
Jun 2018
#97
I don't believe in open primaries and if you won't join the party...I won't caucus with you.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#164
Absolutely not. I vote for Democrats. The lefty leaning independent can fuck off.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#151
Manchin is a Democrat...dangerous ground there...I will vote for Democrats but not independents.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#165
He is a Democrat and if we are to get a majority, or even hold the line we need red state Democrats.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#152
I was not quite old enough to vote but even I knew then that Reagan was pulling the strings on the
ChrisTee
Jun 2018
#239
Indeed. Same thing with Nixon, though I was in my early teens at that time.
PatrickforO
Jun 2018
#243
I was in northern California and I have always been politically/current events oriented.
ChrisTee
Jun 2018
#246
The "fascists" are only laughing because a divisive primary race allowed Trump to win.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#6
Not the thumb on the scale BS again. Hillary won by 4 million votes. It wasn't close.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#221
That's not a thumb on scale. First of all that's her opinion, which she took back and said was wrong
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#272
Here is a thumb HRC had not many recognize.HRC had to coddle Sanders and his supporters while
ChrisTee
Jun 2018
#253
No, you weren't paying attention. You invented reasons for your candidate losing because
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#262
Does the rule stipulate the candidates must be party-affiliated for X amount of time...
Garrett78
Jun 2018
#12
I actually responded to you in the other thread to tell you why I disagreed with you
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#14
Ambiguous to whom? To a DNC grievance committee? To a court? It's not ambiguous.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#22
Yes. I'm playing the long game here. This has to be stopped permanently. A court battle could very
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#25
We can't afford to be hurt for one election cycle, and certainly not the 2020 cycle.
Garrett78
Jun 2018
#28
We can't afford to be hurt for multiple election cycles including 2020 by similar nonsense. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#29
Have you considered a career in acting? Because that drama was almost Oscar worthy.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#77
The problem is, the person most recently in question was inside pissing on everyone inside. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#18
Even more accurate than what I wrote. Thank you for that amplification. 100% correct.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#229
I totally agree. Now he can run as an independent and will split the vote guaranteeing
smirkymonkey
Jun 2018
#26
That's up to him. You can't live your life or run an organization out of fear of blackmail as to
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#32
Until the next crazy GOP candidate, and the next. This is the second time this has happened.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#49
Your side of this argument is the one which is in favor of blackmail. nt
redgreenandblue
Jun 2018
#269
I don't think Bernie will have the impact that he expects running as an Indy.
Blue_true
Jun 2018
#116
His refusal to make his tax returns public will absolutely doom his chances.
Blue_true
Jun 2018
#255
I agree with this. Running as Independent will show how little support he has.
ChrisTee
Jun 2018
#258
It is a silly, childish rule. We should be focused on including people and persuading
Sophia4
Jun 2018
#51
Pretty basic actually. You want organization X's support, join and don't denigrate organization X.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#54
No. Done with Greens...join the party or sit at home vote for your hopeless candidates who spoil
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#155
Expecting a candidate to be a Democrat in order to be the Democratic nominee is childish?
George II
Jun 2018
#242
And, after all, having the word "Democrat" after your name permanently is what it is
Sophia4
Jun 2018
#75
Yes of course, folks being divisive could never possibly have affected the election.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#133
You think Trump couldn't/didn't come up with similar attacks regardless?
thesquanderer
Jun 2018
#219
Sanders didn't just criticize Clinton, he criticized the Party. His supporters accused the party of
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#232
Would that include HRC supporters tell BS supporters that they aren't needed?
Cuthbert Allgood
Jun 2018
#278
Did you ever return to your OP that got so many replies? 214 thoughtful replies so far...
Hekate
Jun 2018
#93
I remember that ...I don't believe the OP posted any replies but I could be wrong.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#158
Oh we know what comes of folks attacking the Democratic party from the left alright.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#57
I understand you are concerned, Sophia4. Very concerned. Also not a student of history, it seems.
Hekate
Jun 2018
#96
"Someone coming in doing it better." I have not heard one person ever, having this concern (or fear)
ChrisTee
Jun 2018
#129
I am so glad that several blue states will have ballot access laws in place for 2020
Gothmog
Jun 2018
#196
Exactly. Why not start a new party if your aim is to present differing ideas?
unitedwethrive
Jun 2018
#39
Of course they won't do that because they know they don't have the numbers. The Green party has
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#43
It's blackmail. "You need to do what I say or X bad things will happen". nt
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#61
You're interpretation is incorrect. Those differing Republicans register Republican & don't crap on
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#52
All of that depends. Register as a Democrat, Caucus as a Democrat, don't attack the party.
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#63
Speaking of "taking" and "giving", a month or so ago Elizabeth Warren spoke...
George II
Jun 2018
#71
So flouting rules is cool and unauthoritarian? Trump wants no rules, and he's
bettyellen
Jun 2018
#112
A DNC committee has adopted a rule that presidential candidates must be party members.
Gothmog
Jun 2018
#107
The national party makes the rules...let me remind you in 08, Hillary could count the votes in
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#163
Yes they can. If there is a question on eligibility it will affect whether someone gets votes and
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#233
remains to be seen...running a renegade populist campaign did ok for clown trump
dembotoz
Jun 2018
#254
Nope, it doesn't and Trump didn't face eligibility questions. People don't like to waste time and
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#261
Nope, I am not considering that one way or the other . I think you underestimate
stevenleser
Jun 2018
#282
I hope they wrote it so you have been registered as a Democrat for atleast the last 5 years
cstanleytech
Jun 2018
#169
Not unreasonable Rule. Non-Democratic candidates can start own Party instead of leaching of Dems
Lil Missy
Jun 2018
#274