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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 09:36 AM Aug 2012

As this Romney "Paid no taxes" Scandal Develops, [View all]

and just before the GOP convention, I'm seeing a real crisis developing. The problem is simple: If Romney releases his tax filings and the story is true, it will be impossible for him to win the election. If he does not release those filings, then the story becomes automatically true in the minds of many voters, and he cannot win the election. That this information became public just before the convention puts Romney and the GOP in an extremely difficult position. What are the options?

1. Romney stonewalls - This will not work with the Convention, because further information will become available after the Convention that will destroy his candidacy. The GOP knows this, and knows they cannot do anything about it.
2. Romney caves and releases the filings - Disaster again, since he cannot possibly win if he truly paid no taxes for 10 years, and he'll drag down legislative candidates, too.
3. Romney withdraws from the race - This possibility saves Romney's ass, but there's not time to field a candidate who can win the Presidency at this late date, and the race and the GOP are already tarnished badly.
4. The GOP simply accepts that they will lose in November - attempts to minimize the damage and regroup. They nominate Romney and skulk off to lick their wounds. This seems the most likely course of events to me. They decide to punt, and give the other team the ball, and hope they can keep the game alive for the future.

Bottom Line: The GOP is in a lose-lose-lose-lose position. Millions of moderate Republicans become disgusted with the party and either skip the election or vote for the Democratic candidate in multiple races. The Democratic Party wins big.

Anyhow, that's how I'm seeing it today.

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Things are going to be hot in Tampa... Cooley Hurd Aug 2012 #1
I'm not going to actually watch the GOP Convention, MineralMan Aug 2012 #3
So it's pretty much a given that Rmoney is toast... how are we doing in the Congressional races? DCKit Aug 2012 #2
A sinking ship takes the lifeboats down with it. MineralMan Aug 2012 #5
That's my personal fantasy, but I won't be banking on it. DCKit Aug 2012 #10
We can have something to do with that, you know. MineralMan Aug 2012 #15
I live and am registered in DC. I've got no voice beyond DU. DCKit Aug 2012 #22
Help us in VA! nt s-cubed Aug 2012 #54
You can help in VA or MD. nt MineralMan Aug 2012 #62
Idaho's 1st CD can help you with that... jmowreader Aug 2012 #66
Wishful thinking. We need to work as hard on Obama's election as ever. pnwmom Aug 2012 #45
4. is it. And he stonewalls. No way he caves or withdraws -- he's His Royal Highness. Zen Democrat Aug 2012 #4
Yes, that's what I think, too. MineralMan Aug 2012 #7
I'm not in a place where I've figured out how this will all turn out cleduc Aug 2012 #6
Yep. I'm hoping campaign monies are redirected to Dems cally Aug 2012 #41
That's a good point davidpdx Aug 2012 #71
A perfect storm for ReTHUGs malaise Aug 2012 #8
So it seems. Fortune is smiling on us. MineralMan Aug 2012 #9
Stonewalls, nominated anyway, loses. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #11
The only way he withdraws is if he is forced to MineralMan Aug 2012 #16
If Romneys taxes are legit he has a win win, if they're not he's gonna lose. Why didn't his dumb uponit7771 Aug 2012 #12
Even if his taxes are within the law, if he truly paid no taxes MineralMan Aug 2012 #17
He didn't think of this before, because his greed blinded him. closeupready Aug 2012 #21
They don't go in for horse dancing doohnibor Aug 2012 #26
Never Underestimated How Stuck On Stupid This Country Is... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #13
Absolutely 100% Correct! hamsterjill Aug 2012 #37
really. I will never forget the day it was obvious Bush and Cheney lied us into a war. I was Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2012 #48
Aint that the truth! silvershadow Aug 2012 #51
That's certainly true. Rozlee Aug 2012 #47
They're Ready To Accept Even Less... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #55
Obvious set-up is obvious slackmaster Aug 2012 #14
You know, I don't think so this time. MineralMan Aug 2012 #18
I figured out a long time ago that elected officials aren't any smarter than the rest of us slackmaster Aug 2012 #34
They've gotten a month of negative publicity over this SO FAR.... cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #61
The GOP already knows they have lost. randome Aug 2012 #19
I'm beginning to think you're right, actually. MineralMan Aug 2012 #20
My bet is on stonewall. 99Forever Aug 2012 #23
Number 3 will never happen. The Romneys of the world consider themselves above the law. FSogol Aug 2012 #24
If this happens, maybe THEN we'll get paper ballots counted in public? AllyCat Aug 2012 #35
I doubt it. THe GOP would just up their voter suppression efforts in the future. n/t FSogol Aug 2012 #36
The term "checkmate" comes to mind. nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #25
there are a lot of people d_r Aug 2012 #27
He won't release them and the GOP will go along with it flamingdem Aug 2012 #28
5. The story isn't true? Or he has had all of this time to 're-do' his tax filings... democrat_patriot Aug 2012 #29
I doubt the returns will show anything worse than what we already know about wiggs Aug 2012 #30
Question mainstreetonce Aug 2012 #31
Don't you have ANY faith in voter suppression and super-secret proprietary software voting machines? valerief Aug 2012 #32
You forgot about the rigged voting machines. AllyCat Aug 2012 #33
Or they just hunker down until November and then buy/steal the election. CanonRay Aug 2012 #38
One other possibility: he doesn't release them and the story dies onenote Aug 2012 #39
I think that's a real possibility n/t DesertRat Aug 2012 #40
I think they've been looking to 2016 all along. cyberswede Aug 2012 #42
There is also option 5, that he releases the returns and they show he did pay taxes. RedSpartan Aug 2012 #43
I think that still plays poorly for him Rose Siding Aug 2012 #73
Something to watch is whether his money stops rolling in. GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2012 #44
They must be scared libodem Aug 2012 #46
Are we so sure we want him to quit? I do not like the thought of taking a chance on Ron Paul. jwirr Aug 2012 #49
he is not going to releaseanything grantcart Aug 2012 #50
I hope this is correct...(I never use the word "right" anymore..) Stuart G Aug 2012 #52
Breaking News: Politicians waste nearly one trillion on elections Roverticus Aug 2012 #53
But it stimulates the economy. Quantess Aug 2012 #69
I have the same hopes DonRedwood Aug 2012 #56
Number 4, no matter the tax issue outcome Life Long Dem Aug 2012 #57
We'll know if option 4 is true if the big donors apples and oranges Aug 2012 #58
It's all local, folks mountain grammy Aug 2012 #59
Absolutely. Legislative races need our help. MineralMan Aug 2012 #64
This is the scenario that excites me most. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #60
Me too! nt MineralMan Aug 2012 #63
Please don't forget Congress eridani Aug 2012 #65
You forgot option 5 jmowreader Aug 2012 #67
Don't forget the Ron Paul delegates will be at the B Calm Aug 2012 #68
Romney is going nowhere... he will be the nominee- you forget-- Republicanism is not a reality-based JCMach1 Aug 2012 #70
Watch where the big money goes (or doesn't) quaker bill Aug 2012 #72
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