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nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
54. The problem is not what this man thinks
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:57 PM
Aug 2012

It's not even what he says. It's the fact that he contributes a portion of his proceeds to a designated hate group that advocates the murder of gay people in Africa. If the business owner designates a portion of his profits to go to a group that wants to kill blacks or Jews should they be allowed to operate also?

this is an unpopular use of logic ProdigalJunkMail Aug 2012 #1
It is not logic. The thread title is a lie. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #97
how so? n/t ProdigalJunkMail Aug 2012 #136
It sure is. Which means the ACLU is illogical, too. Zalatix Aug 2012 #188
thanks for pointing that out Whisp Aug 2012 #2
Are we talking about speech or employment practices? LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #3
There has been no suggestion that any of their employment practices are discriminatory... brooklynite Aug 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #33
Actually, the article which a poster below has spammed to this thread.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #144
Town I live in blocked a tattoo parlor, Yeah Its Spin Aug 2012 #4
Did they block it with zoning? sharp_stick Aug 2012 #7
yeah they used zoning Yeah Its Spin Aug 2012 #14
A tattoo parlor that wanted to open in Hoboken NJ about 20 years ago rocktivity Aug 2012 #23
Not that I really care one way or other Confusious Aug 2012 #86
Medical and dental offices would have been better examples, then rocktivity Aug 2012 #158
Because it was a tattoo parlor or because they didn't like the owner? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #56
Absolutely correct. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #5
ITA and bravo to the OP. Butterbean Aug 2012 #156
you're right 100% mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #6
I agree completely Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #8
I agree. As distasteful as I find Cathy's bigoted stance.... Raster Aug 2012 #9
No Rahm didn't - he did not say what the OP indicates DURHAM D Aug 2012 #85
Rahm is supporting the Alderman who is blocking the store. former9thward Aug 2012 #145
Spend less time searching for trolls and more time thinking. nt progress2k12nbynd Aug 2012 #174
Have we totally bought into the idea that money is speech? sadbear Aug 2012 #10
K&R and well said like a motherfucker nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #11
and the turn-about is: pepperbear Aug 2012 #12
I agree. Doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is still doing the wrong thing. berni_mccoy Aug 2012 #13
The road to hell and all that... Raster Aug 2012 #25
What did he do wrong? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #49
Well -- Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #53
Has the restaurant actually been blocked from being built? i didn't hear that it had been. AlinPA Aug 2012 #15
In Chicago there is an alderman who has says he has power and plans to use it. hack89 Aug 2012 #16
Thanks! AlinPA Aug 2012 #17
His Ward, His Rules, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #44
I understand that elected officials are above the law hack89 Aug 2012 #95
Yep, we all know Right Wingers hate Chicago. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #100
Of course they do - Chicago gave America President Obama hack89 Aug 2012 #135
Bit Lead-Footed For Sarcasm, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #187
I know. hack89 Aug 2012 #191
Excellent point, Sir. Thanks for bringing it up, Sir. progress2k12nbynd Aug 2012 #175
The city can impose zoning restrictions and force the restaurant to open in JDPriestly Aug 2012 #79
Retroactively changing zoning laws just to keep a specific company out? hack89 Aug 2012 #94
Happened a lot here in NYC with adult businesses stevenleser Aug 2012 #154
ALL adult entertainment business correct? hack89 Aug 2012 #159
No, I don't, because that is not the situation. stevenleser Aug 2012 #179
And it would be equally easy to craft zoning laws to conform to traditional "Christian values" hack89 Aug 2012 #181
No, it wouldn't. The 14th amendment would be the impediment to that. nt stevenleser Aug 2012 #198
And your proposal would violate the 1st amendment hack89 Aug 2012 #209
Your suggested ordinance would be a clear First Amendment violation. Jim Lane Aug 2012 #183
Not completely correct. At worst, it would be a conflict between the 1st and 14th amendments. stevenleser Aug 2012 #197
I completely disagree. Jim Lane Aug 2012 #200
Unless the company is asking for a change in the zoning laws and that JDPriestly Aug 2012 #182
No Son of Gob Aug 2012 #50
Nope, just constitutionally protected opinions. nt Deep13 Aug 2012 #91
I will demand that Government protect the rights of those I disagree with... brooklynite Aug 2012 #19
The "mosque" WAS blocked, IIRC. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #20
No. It opened. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #38
I hate to agree with you... Wait Wut Aug 2012 #21
What is it you actually think he did? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #52
He did nothing MNBrewer Aug 2012 #62
And on "Democratic" Underground. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #71
I know that Son of Gob Aug 2012 #77
Not what he 'did', what he 'said'. Wait Wut Aug 2012 #98
He didn't say any such thing Son of Gob Aug 2012 #105
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #112
SPAMbot Son of Gob Aug 2012 #124
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #128
Kewl, more Spam! My favorite. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #130
you can't refute it so it's spam...interesting n/t ProdigalJunkMail Aug 2012 #137
No, it's spam because s/he's posted it about 50 times in this thread. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #139
Not my fault that there's so much ignorance in this thread (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #142
Yeah, it kind of is. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #147
ok...well, how about someone refuting it once? ProdigalJunkMail Aug 2012 #148
The thread stated Mayor Emanual was abusing his power. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #152
Frustrating, isn't it? Wait Wut Aug 2012 #153
HAS it been denied? MNBrewer Aug 2012 #204
It's spam because he's copy and pasted the same message Son of Gob Aug 2012 #151
"Now as the Fonz would say, Sit on it." Really? Wait Wut Aug 2012 #113
Keep spinning, sport. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #122
That would be 'sportess'. Wait Wut Aug 2012 #127
Keep digging sportess. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #131
I like the way you think. n/t truedelphi Aug 2012 #150
+1 Strongly agree. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #22
It seems wrong to have Govt refuse them. mitchtv Aug 2012 #24
I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #26
So if the police raided the corporate HQ of DemocraticUnderground LLC for no reason, Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #36
i guess that might be applicable if dick-fil-a were having thier assets seized.. frylock Aug 2012 #65
Not an analogy. A response to "corporations have no rights" (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #70
But the franchisee niceguy Aug 2012 #192
Even when Rahm seemingly tries to do the right thing, he is wrong. (nt) w4rma Aug 2012 #27
Wrong about what? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #89
Wrong about expressing support for Alderman Proco Moreno's vow Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #140
So Rahm doesn't get the right to free speech? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #202
what is wrong with America!!! If a teabagger wants open a restaurant, as long as he doesn't nanabugg Aug 2012 #28
The President needs to quickly come out and make a statement about this. nanabugg Aug 2012 #29
and if Obama speaks out for chick fila DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #32
Oh, nice blanket bigoted statement. joeybee12 Aug 2012 #39
You know it is true. DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #184
That's the next step...get Obama involved in this... zeemike Aug 2012 #110
I agree with you.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #30
Rahm says bullshit all the time, and no one has blocked any chicken store from opening. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #31
Hear, hear! MNBrewer Aug 2012 #66
It's almost like they are forgetting we have an election in November. Redford Aug 2012 #34
I talked with about a dozen people littlewolf Aug 2012 #35
Did you ask them about actions? MattBaggins Aug 2012 #42
nope we were in a mall .... littlewolf Aug 2012 #173
sounds like bullshit to me frylock Aug 2012 #67
Please show me EXACTLY what Rahm said... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #37
I am with you. What exactly did he say? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #45
Here's what he said. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #46
For the 11th million time MattBaggins Aug 2012 #40
That's just a pretext. Most major corporations COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #64
I agree that politicians getting involved only hurts the cause. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #41
What a dumb thing to whine about. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #43
How many threads does the 'blame the gays if we lose' advance team need? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #47
I think you've got their number. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #59
They are so easy to spot as it is cyclical and also repetitive... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #83
I still see it as appropriate. randome Aug 2012 #48
Private citizens can, should, and must take Chick-Fil-A to task TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #186
'Personal behavior' is not what I'm talking about. randome Aug 2012 #196
Looks like you have created a false narrative of the matter DURHAM D Aug 2012 #51
He didn't create it Son of Gob Aug 2012 #63
I noticed that it is a drive by. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #68
Pretty frustrating when people buy into bullshit like this Son of Gob Aug 2012 #84
no thread of mine is ever a drive by scheming daemons Aug 2012 #117
The problem is not what this man thinks nichomachus Aug 2012 #54
The problem is EXACTLY what the man thinks. COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #69
Sir I'm going to have to ask you to cease and desist 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #55
That is absolutely right. Chemisse Aug 2012 #57
Who said they didn't? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #58
If that has happened, it would be equally wrong. Chemisse Aug 2012 #146
Which business was blocked from being built? Name it. Name even one. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #80
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #125
Yep. We should not act like them... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #60
Zoning would be a perfect way to do it MNBrewer Aug 2012 #61
Doubtful this would pass as a zoning restriction. COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #72
why? MNBrewer Aug 2012 #87
No rational basis for requiring all fast food COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #92
Rational basis: the city wants restaurants that serve food 7 days a week MNBrewer Aug 2012 #96
So you've no problem with driving out Orthodox Jewish owned businesses? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #107
Nobody said it had to be staffed by orthodox jews on saturday. MNBrewer Aug 2012 #108
So... by that reasoning... -..__... Aug 2012 #185
Why would a city care about that COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #193
Why would a city care if my lawn is 8 inches tall, or 9 inches tall? MNBrewer Aug 2012 #201
It's not city ordinances we're talking about - COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #205
Ordinance: all fast food restaurants opened as "out lot" facilities must be open 7 days a week. MNBrewer Aug 2012 #206
Good luck getting that to stick when all the Kosher COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #212
Yeah, kosher fast food places... eyeroll MNBrewer Aug 2012 #213
You're either intentionally missing the point COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #214
It's lovely how the "legitimate" religions are given such deference here in this country MNBrewer Aug 2012 #216
It's called the U.S. Constitution - COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #217
that's ridiculous cali Aug 2012 #74
It happens all the time MNBrewer Aug 2012 #88
Many Jewish-owned stores in New York City are closed on Saturday. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #75
I don't know what specific issue you are talking about, but JDPriestly Aug 2012 #73
Banning restaurants because of rat droppings in the kitchen is fine. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #81
And when did this happen, this thing you speak of? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #93
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #101
correct me if I am wrong, but I thought it was the Mayor of Boston who said notadmblnd Aug 2012 #76
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #104
Exactly. Well stated... WCGreen Aug 2012 #78
Rahm did not, and is not, trying to block Chick-Fil-A!!! demgurl Aug 2012 #82
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #103
Everyone please read the article at the link so you can see how dishonest some posters really are. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #109
there is nothing in this thread that bashes gays. LGBTs are CORRECT to boycott... scheming daemons Aug 2012 #114
So what was the purpose of your lie if not gay bashing? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #119
what lie? scheming daemons Aug 2012 #164
Why spread right wing memes? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #123
Do you stand with Alderman Proco Moreno? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #120
No one is blocking anything. Deep13 Aug 2012 #90
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #102
And individual aldermen have that power? Deep13 Aug 2012 #111
In Chicago, those guys have considerable power. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #116
I don't think he has that right and I don't even think he claimed to have it tularetom Aug 2012 #99
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #106
No matter how many times you post this link Rahm is still not quoted in it. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #115
Do you stand with Alderman Proco Moreno? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #118
Do you know what spam is? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #121
"I wll deny Chik-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward" Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #126
Has Alderman Moreno actually stopped the opening of the restaurant? MNBrewer Aug 2012 #132
Do you support him in his quest? Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #133
"No harm, no foul", as they say MNBrewer Aug 2012 #203
More importantly - did Rahm actually say what is in the title of this OP. NO ! DURHAM D Aug 2012 #134
The OP does not quote Rahm as "saying" anything. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #138
The OP states that Rahm is abusing his power as mayor to ban Chick-Fil-A. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #141
I would say that publicly supporting Alderman Moreno's quest is indeed an abuse of his power (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #143
You haven't shown that he does support any specific actions on the part of Moreno.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #149
Do you stand with Alderman Moreno? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #155
Chick-Fil-A should follow the rules, just like every other business must. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #160
Alderman Moreno's vow is based on Dan Cathy's views, Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #162
Did you even read the article you spammed to this thread? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #165
From the article... Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #166
I guess that's where you stopped reading. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #176
Anything less than the Golden Rule will produce an effect that is OPPOSITE of what one intends. nt patrice Aug 2012 #129
Bingo!! liberallibral Aug 2012 #157
This thread is a classic. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #161
Somehow in these arguments I always seem to find myself siding with the ACLU (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #163
lol... fascisthunter Aug 2012 #167
Well, I've been accused of a lot of things, but "perfect butterfly" is a first. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #169
fragile too fascisthunter Aug 2012 #171
Well said. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #180
Hauling a false premise up the flagpole that just happens to require criticizing gay rights activism yardwork Aug 2012 #195
Thank you. n/t RoseMead Aug 2012 #208
You do realize that you are comparing a religious group to a business? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #168
but when it comes to MAKING MONEY, it's all ok in Amerikkkka. fascisthunter Aug 2012 #172
I doubt Mr. Cathy sees a difference. MNBrewer Aug 2012 #207
Germany does not accept bigotry for a good reason. fascisthunter Aug 2012 #170
Ah, that clarifies the issue. Thanks. (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #177
good... glad your proto-fascist self agrees fascisthunter Aug 2012 #178
Isn't this the Citizens United rationale? Deep13 Aug 2012 #189
Do you accept that corporations have any rights at all? Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #190
Corporations are not people, so it has no organic rights. Deep13 Aug 2012 #210
Well then let Mr. Cathy hire a lawyer and sue in court, if he wants. closeupready Aug 2012 #194
Hate to say it, but Rahm did overreach. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #199
Excellent article in CNN explaining the legal aspect - lynne Aug 2012 #211
But we CAN prevent the Ku Klux Klan from adopting highways. randome Aug 2012 #215
Missouri tried to stop the KKK from adopting a highway and lost in court - lynne Aug 2012 #218
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