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freshwest

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30. I think it's only logical. Knowing what foolishness people can be taken in by, and how eager they
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

Have proven themselves to turn on each other, they give us hate to feed on and keep our eyes off of them. This is nothing new.

The bread and circuses in Rome were used to inflame the most worthless tendencies of human beings, to keep the commoners out of the way of the patricians. Would someone who had the advantage of knowing history, be willing to submit to the mob? Or seek to protect their lives and their families from them?

That's on the lower and higher levels, as well. Anyone who has the advantage of knowledge, especially as the PTB or whatever they are have, will use it. The knowledge itself is not good or evil, it is neutral. The accumulated data from the internet, satellites, governments, universities, militaries, corporations and the space program are in the hands of a few.

Those who were specialized enough to gather the data will be loyal to those they worked for. Those they worked for will make decisions based on the data. We don't want to believe in social classes, we want to fulfill our destinies as humans and as individuals. We don't give overt, public support to these folks but we do in everything else we do.

What we do for a living is all part of that. I think we are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. As in the civil war in Spain in the 1930s, the 'good guys,' don't always win. Some of the people did survive the sinking of the Titanic, while many did not. In the plague years in Europe, the same happened.

All of that precludes the ideas of those who do talk about social classes, like socialists and communists. They energized generations to call for a more equal social order. Religion at one time actually played a positive role in movements such as abolition, worker, immigrant, and racial justice, and even the environmental movements. These were all co-opted in the Reagan era. Or maybe earlier, in the 1950s. Certainly they were of no help in the pre-Civil War days or during Jim Crow.

At this point in history, we need to be united more than ever. But every single institution and social organizing mechanism that once united us, has been taken over and is used to destroy that unity. It's very difficult to move past the point of this. Those are just a few thoughts on this.

The Olympics are pushing all real news off of the front page. Lint Head Aug 2012 #1
Please don't suggest that politics is more important than equality justiceischeap Aug 2012 #2
Word - the OP is just another variation of "Shut up, gays, until after the election!" bullwinkle428 Aug 2012 #5
No. that's not what the OP was at all. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #11
Couldn't of said it better myself. Thanks crazyjoe Aug 2012 #32
The chicken shop issue is a joke. There are better things to put energy towards. cottonseed Aug 2012 #29
The two are by their nature, intertwined. pennylane100 Aug 2012 #9
And every election, the LGBTQ community is told to shut up and sit down justiceischeap Aug 2012 #25
No. The Dancing Horse puts the "Privileged Few" back on. nt MADem Aug 2012 #3
Romney's tax returns were on the front page? Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #4
The last thing you want is tax return gate 24/7 for 4 months. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #6
He can run but he can't hide. Romney has a cockroach problem and no RAID. nc4bo Aug 2012 #7
Yes, the crowds are being drummed up by Beck, etc. and given media attention. That's your answer. freshwest Aug 2012 #8
(R)omney, Inc. is scrambling as we speak. nc4bo Aug 2012 #10
Thanks for finding this information, and I hope the campaign uses it, nc4bo. freshwest Aug 2012 #14
Spam deleted by Neoma (MIR Team) mama-repub Aug 2012 #12
For a few days, then it's over... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #13
Rather predictable, too. Unfortunately, all these guys, the chicken baron, Beck, Fischer and... freshwest Aug 2012 #15
You may be right. longship Aug 2012 #16
You don't recognize the trend? LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #17
We need to get the dialogue out of their hands. But they run the media. It's a lunatic asylum. freshwest Aug 2012 #18
I would be happy with dialogue ... at all. LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #19
I know, they've relegated debating with Democrats as 'get thee behind me satan.' freshwest Aug 2012 #21
Truly, my reflections on the state of our union this morning LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #23
Like global warming and less habitat? Yes, I think they know very well trouble is looming ahead. freshwest Aug 2012 #24
I watch as this select few hoard our planet's resources and wonder what compels them. LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #27
I think it's only logical. Knowing what foolishness people can be taken in by, and how eager they freshwest Aug 2012 #30
No...Patience Grasshopper DearAbby Aug 2012 #20
lol Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #22
It will blow over pretty quickly. But the controversy over Mitt's tax returns The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #26
LOL MrDiaz Aug 2012 #28
I don't think it's accidental that the cfa controversy has made more noise LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #31
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