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FSogol

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31. LOL, last time: Atlas Mugged: How a Libertarian Paradise in Chile Fell Apart
Fri May 18, 2018, 04:22 PM
May 2018
Two years after Galt's Gulch Chile was founded, the utopian project is mired in personal and legal conflicts and investors now claim that the guy in charge is a sociopath and a con man.

t was a good idea, in theory anyway. The plan was to form a sustainable community made up of people who believed in capitalism, limited government, and self-reliance. The site was already picked out: 11,000 acres of fertile land nestled in the valleys of the Chilean Andes, just an hour's drive away from the capital of Santiago, to the east, and the Pacific Ocean, to the west. Residents could make money growing and exporting organic produce while enjoying Chile's low taxes and temperate climate. This was no crackpot scheme to establish a micronation on a platform floating in the middle of the ocean (a common libertarian dream)—this was a serious attempt to build a refuge where free marketers and anarcho-capitalists could hole up and wait for the world's fiat currencies to collapse. They called it "Galt's Gulch Chile" (GGC), naming it for the fictional place where the world's competent capitalists flee to in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.

The project was conceived in 2012 by four men: John Cobin, an American expat living in Chile who once ran unsuccessfully for Congress in South Carolina; Jeff Berwick, the globe-trotting founder of the Dollar Vigilante, a financial newsletter that preaches the coming end of the current monetary system; Cobin's Chilean partner; and Ken Johnson, a roving entrepreneur whose previous investment projects included real estate, wind turbines, and "water ionizers," pseudoscientific gizmos that are advertised as being able to slow aging.

That initial group quickly fell apart, though today the principals disagree on why. Now, two years after its founding, the would-be paradise is ensnared in a set of personal conflicts, mainly centered on Johnson. Instead of living in a picturesque valley selling Galt's Gulch–branded juice, the libertarian founders are accusing one another of being drunks, liars, and sociopaths. GGC's would-be inhabitants have called Johnson a "weirdo," a "pathological liar," "insane," a "scammer," and other, similar things. Some shareholders are pursuing legal action in an effort to remove him from the project, a drastic measure for antigovernment types to take. Johnson, who remains the manager of the trust that controls the land, claims all the allegations against him are false. So what happened?


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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bn53b3/atlas-mugged-922-v21n10
They'll be at each others' throats within weeks. sandensea May 2018 #1
I seem to recall that was more or less central to the plot... Dave Starsky May 2018 #5
And, in a way, of Lord of the Flies as well. sandensea May 2018 #6
That's what immediately came to mind spinbaby May 2018 #13
There's something about the phrase, "They'll go feral in no time" that strikes Squinch May 2018 #53
How many of this ilk even know what the book/film LoTF is about.. appalachiablue May 2018 #48
yep DonCoquixote May 2018 #17
Absolutely. Both of those games are masterpieces. Dave Starsky May 2018 #18
Lol. How are subpoenas delivered? Hortensis May 2018 #26
Nah, it will be at least six months before they Bettie May 2018 #14
y first reaction was actually to shake my head and chuckle eleny May 2018 #28
Oh it'll be a colossal shit show. Initech May 2018 #44
Bets on how long until such an island turns into a Game of Thrones? haele May 2018 #2
You beat me to it. Dread Pirate Roberts May 2018 #3
Ok, how exactly do they plan The Polack MSgt May 2018 #4
People that have their heads in the clouds don't realize. Blue_true May 2018 #7
Self-government is still government dalton99a May 2018 #8
It's a recipe for failure. Aristus May 2018 #9
Reminds me of someone. sandensea May 2018 #11
Part of the libertarian philosophy SCantiGOP May 2018 #10
That was my first thought exboyfil May 2018 #30
The RING don't play underpants May 2018 #34
Someone among them is running a great scam. hunter May 2018 #12
I've got a boat. Think they'll create a socialist army or police force? NightWatcher May 2018 #15
Great , it's the live action Bioshock DonCoquixote May 2018 #16
First of all, these libertarian bros have been talking that pipe dream for decades Blue_Tires May 2018 #19
Let me know when a group of Libertines Gets a Floating Island superpatriotman May 2018 #20
This will end well. Snort. Downtown Hound May 2018 #21
Hope they don't forget the robot labor force! NickB79 May 2018 #22
Ha, beat me to it! Was just going to post that one. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #33
Can anyone say "High Value Target"? n/t MicaelS May 2018 #23
Them again? Retrograde May 2018 #24
If it gets hit by a giant wave DavidDvorkin May 2018 #25
Heh!! A Giant Blue Wave no less!! madinmaryland May 2018 #41
Right! DavidDvorkin May 2018 #43
See: Republic of Minerva brooklynite May 2018 #27
LOL, Didn't some libertarians try that recently in Peru or Chile? That never ends well. FSogol May 2018 #29
LOL, last time: Atlas Mugged: How a Libertarian Paradise in Chile Fell Apart FSogol May 2018 #31
+1 Good failed example. appalachiablue May 2018 #36
Libertarian Utopias are fairy tales for selfish people. Kick ass societies come from people working FSogol May 2018 #37
Well said. Won't hustlers & selfish Greedheads ever stop this fantasy. appalachiablue May 2018 #38
I give it a year before they all start looting each other's property and smirkymonkey May 2018 #32
These things go in stages underpants May 2018 #35
Hope they all read "Lord of the Flies" DeminPennswoods May 2018 #39
Pitcairn Island, example of a remote island refugee community not going well. appalachiablue May 2018 #49
something will happen and they will make a rule... lame54 May 2018 #40
When the pirates land to rape and pillage, they'll be wondering why the United States Military Snake Plissken May 2018 #42
and no fire department... XRubicon May 2018 #45
These people are visionaries! very rich ones. The Practical stuff, eh, later... appalachiablue May 2018 #46
They will each pay for the road they use XRubicon May 2018 #47
Sounds right, with plenty of 'fences make good neighbors.' appalachiablue May 2018 #50
Worked out so well for Pitcairn. applegrove May 2018 #51
Even if this turns out as envisioned - and it won't - it wouldn't work to scale up. Garrett78 May 2018 #52
So a few questions scarletlib May 2018 #54
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