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MadHound

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37. And again, where was the rest of the world?

Reply to Whisp (Reply #33)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:46 AM

Aug 2012

Why are we the ones spending our fortune on war while our own people are dying on the streets of our cities?

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So now we're going into Syria [View all] MadHound Aug 2012 OP

Well then again trumad Aug 2012 #1

So instead of Assad kill them, we can. MadHound Aug 2012 #2

Uhhh--- we won't have boots on the ground in Syria. trumad Aug 2012 #4

Didn't have boots on the ground in Iraq for ten years, MadHound Aug 2012 #5

OK---if you're OK with Assa killing his own people... trumad Aug 2012 #12

Some despot somewhere is always killing his or her own people, MadHound Aug 2012 #24

i have never found the arely staircase Aug 2012 #35

I think that you're missing my point MadHound Aug 2012 #41

so if we do nothing that will stop the fighting? it hasn't so far. nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #44

By what right can we interfere? MadHound Aug 2012 #46

France interfered in our revolutionary war. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #53

Much like we do, France interfered for their own interests, MadHound Aug 2012 #77

Know your history. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #85

I don't rely on Wikipedia, that's why I know my history. MadHound Aug 2012 #87

We'll, since this is the internet I can pretty much UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #94

No, don't teach it, MadHound Aug 2012 #97

You said France had little to do with our revolution. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #103

Both countries also interfered in our civil war. nt stevenleser Aug 2012 #175

if it had brought the war to a quicker end, preserved the union and gotten rid of slavery, arely staircase Aug 2012 #69

You obviously don't know your history, MadHound Aug 2012 #76

france was certainly in the picture arely staircase Aug 2012 #78

It's the oil: we must keep our grip on the ME no matter what the cost, because oil is our lifeblood NickB79 Aug 2012 #149

You know, it's going to come out that casualties went up after Obama signed off on this, don't you? leveymg Aug 2012 #88

Oh yes, I am sure it will be a Romney campaign tactic to say Obama is too forceful of a CINC. stevenleser Aug 2012 #176

I'm sure it won't be, Steven. leveymg Aug 2012 #178

Oh and BTW: trumad Aug 2012 #13

Your status as a vet has no bearing on this question, MadHound Aug 2012 #25

Its a very valid point. Servicepeople would much rather drones get shot at instead of them. nt stevenleser Aug 2012 #177

As a Vet myself atreides1 Aug 2012 #96

We're not the world's policemen. area51 Aug 2012 #8

he's been in power for 12 years, & his father before him. it's a wonder there are any people left HiPointDem Aug 2012 #110

shhhh Enrique Aug 2012 #3

Obama did a good thing harun Aug 2012 #6

First of all, fighting for peace is oxymoronic MadHound Aug 2012 #7

All people have a right to defend themselves, it is a basic human right harun Aug 2012 #14

The United States isn't being attacked by Syria, so our aggression can't be styled "self defense". Romulox Aug 2012 #16

i think he was refering to the syrian people arely staircase Aug 2012 #38

This thread is about *US involvement* in Syria's conflict. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #107

The United States isn't attacking anyone in Syria. harun Aug 2012 #170

Then, by definition, the US isn't involved in "self defense" in Syria. It was a gaffe to mention it. Romulox Aug 2012 #171

I was talking about the rebels right to self defense. harun Aug 2012 #172

Right, but this thread is about *US INVOLVEMENT* in that conflict. By definition, "not self defense" Romulox Aug 2012 #174

Fighting of peace may be oxymoronic Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #26

So why are we the ones who are going in? MadHound Aug 2012 #28

If you read the article... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #32

And meanwhile, people are dying on our streets here at home MadHound Aug 2012 #36

I think the Syrian people would disagree with you. Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #39

Yes, establish a religious law that says to kill Americans, MadHound Aug 2012 #43

And because all Arabs think alike and act alike, we can predict the results... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #56

What racism? MadHound Aug 2012 #68

Still yours... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #74

I'm not the one lumping two disparate people into the same category, MadHound Aug 2012 #81

Uh... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #93

Wow, you are getting desperate, MadHound Aug 2012 #100

I can see... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #108

why use Afghanistan as the example when Libya is probably a closer comparison? arely staircase Aug 2012 #150

We intentionally funded the craziest people we could find UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #58

Did Kosovo or Libya turn into another Vietnam? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #57

kosovo, a mafia-run state with 45% unemployment & growing radical islam, another great success HiPointDem Aug 2012 #182

You might as well just go ahead and say it. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #183

which part do you deny, mafia-run, unemployment figures, influence of radical islam, or color HiPointDem Aug 2012 #184

When you have a population that has been UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #186

if the 'murderous dictator' you're talking about is milosevic, he was in power 11 years, 8 as pres HiPointDem Aug 2012 #187

Did you think Clinton was right in not helping Rwanda? Whisp Aug 2012 #33

And again, where was the rest of the world? MadHound Aug 2012 #37

how about WW2, would you have got involved if you called the shots? Whisp Aug 2012 #40

In WWII we were attacked, MadHound Aug 2012 #42

you mean We as America? Whisp Aug 2012 #59

What About Germany? Liberal_Dog Aug 2012 #65

hmm, then why did America wait so long to get into the fray? Whisp Aug 2012 #98

Because for the past half century we've been the world's stabilizing force Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #67

And just how stabilizing has America been over the past sixty odd years? MadHound Aug 2012 #71

South Korea, Taiwan, Germany, and Japan (among others) would differ with your assessment Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #167

You mean the multinational force in Rwanda the US deliberately hobbled? Posteritatis Aug 2012 #101

There is no evidence that the Free Syrian Army is really primarily made up of Syrians riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #15

There's no evidence that the Syrian rebels are UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #60

+1. DevonRex Aug 2012 #62

There's evidence they include outside forces. There's evidence they're armed by outside forces. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #117

I'm for toppling murderous dictators. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #128

lol. sure you are. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #137

What do you think my true motivations are? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #163

it's my secret. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #169

Sure there is. I don't have a lot of time today to google but here's just one story from DU riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #142

Ermm... a "secret" ??? ananda Aug 2012 #9

... n2doc Aug 2012 #10

sigh..... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #21

the order stops short of authorizing the arming of rebels directly spanone Aug 2012 #11

Right. And those men in fatigues in Indochina? Merely "military advisors"! nt Romulox Aug 2012 #18

“Birmingham accents” HiPointDem Aug 2012 #118

It looks like Obama's campaign will coincide with a new military adventure... nt Romulox Aug 2012 #17

Incredible isn't it?? Horrific. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #19

Well crap....... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #20

I've been trying to understand this, but I can't. He must know something we don't. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #22

I'm pretty sure the President knows something Madhound does not. Whisp Aug 2012 #34

No need to know anything mysterious here. woo me with science Aug 2012 #72

Or any of the rest of us. He is NOT a warmonger like the shrub. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #105

That's what much of the media said about Bush and Iraq. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #109

yeh, like Bush and Obama are the same person. Whisp Aug 2012 #114

Just what the neocon-PNACers told us to do. Right on schedule. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #23

+1 Blood for profit is bipartisan. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #70

I thought we were supposed to hit Iran next according to their schedule. Lasher Aug 2012 #84

Iran's just not going to happen. Would've figured people would get that by now. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #104

So, how soon do you think we'll hit Iran? Lasher Aug 2012 #115

Tell me one I haven't heard scores of times every year for the past eleven. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #122

Can't leftists ever argue with facts UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #27

Is that sarcasm MadHound Aug 2012 #29

I'm sure the article is true but not your claim UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #45

We are sending arms, money and drones to Syria, MadHound Aug 2012 #49

The article doesn't mention drones. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #54

How much do you want to bet that drones will be included? MadHound Aug 2012 #73

We don't give people drones. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #80

D'uh! MadHound Aug 2012 #83

Do I want to place a bet on speculation? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #89

Speculation, educated guess, gut feeling based on our past actions, MadHound Aug 2012 #95

Why would I want to bet? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #99

YOU DON'T GET IT, MadHound Aug 2012 #102

China and Russia use satellites to monitor us. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #106

When that's over, you could watch women's badminton Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #120

"I'm better off watching women's badmitten." Now you've moved to sexism, and misspelling sexism... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #129

Only a couple though...I would use drones.. snooper2 Aug 2012 #173

A bit of a slip up there? I understand though, your righteous indignation got the better of you. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #126

Nobel Peace Prize! agent46 Aug 2012 #30

Nobel Peace Prize. What a fucking joke. woo me with science Aug 2012 #63

Well, I've had enough of something alright. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #140

Yeah, yeah, we know. It's ALL about the civilians. woo me with science Aug 2012 #145

From my perspective, it * IS * all about the civilians. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #146

Uh huh. woo me with science Aug 2012 #148

I don't have an "RNC-approved textbook." Do you? AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #152

Nope. Bad analogy. woo me with science Aug 2012 #153

lol ... speaking of self-aggrandizement AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #156

!!!! dionysus Aug 2012 #179

It is becoming very clear that the Assad regime is going to fall. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #31

Unrec brooklynite Aug 2012 #47

Maybe he should call them "Contras" to justify us getting involved in another civil war. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #48

+1000 woo me with science Aug 2012 #66

Ollie was on Fox today talking about how Iran is the real target. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #125

I agree with you and Assad, let him slaughter his own citizens and we should do nothing. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #50

Good thing the British didn't jump in on the side of the Confederacy, MadHound Aug 2012 #52

NIce to see you have used at least four different Straw Men arguments in this thread. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #82

Nice to see you have nothing substantial in your reply, MadHound Aug 2012 #86

I am glad that the Syrian people will have the means at their disposal to fight Assad. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #92

Which Syrian people? The country is deeply divided. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #127

We tried to help in Afghanistan in the 80's Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #51

Gee, is anyone surprised? woo me with science Aug 2012 #55

No matter how bad the situation is, we can always make it worse. Vidar Aug 2012 #61

DU Rec woo me with science Aug 2012 #64

Had enough yet, America? nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #75

Juan Cole: Obama signed finding to help Syria Uprising pampango Aug 2012 #79

That agrees with my OP MadHound Aug 2012 #90

Thank you for this post. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #111

If it's a "secretive order", how the hell did common dreams find out about it? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #91

LISTEN TO ME!! OBAMA IS TEH EVL!! Robb Aug 2012 #112

Thanks for clearing that up.... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #116

If you read it on the internet it must be true. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #131

I really think of us, the Obama voters, who won the Peace Prize, not Obama librechik Aug 2012 #113

You view the Assad and Gaddafi regimes UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #134

I was referring to earlier US efforts to end democracy, i.e., Iraq and in Palestine, earlier still librechik Aug 2012 #139

According to Hersh the rebels are muslim brotherhood. Yeah Its Spin Aug 2012 #119

“Seven countries in five years” HiPointDem Aug 2012 #121

"ending with Iran" woo me with science Aug 2012 #132

you got it. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and iran. and all the war hawks at DU seem HiPointDem Aug 2012 #135

No shit. woo me with science Aug 2012 #154

k HiPointDem Aug 2012 #155

You do know that's a 5 year-old article, right?...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #143

yes, sid, i know. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #144

My daughter was a few weeks old when my brother flew out to meet his ship in the Gulf Marrah_G Aug 2012 #181

well it might bring peace & he did have success in Libya ThomThom Aug 2012 #123

depends on what you mean by "success". our media isn't much for reporting the aftermath HiPointDem Aug 2012 #136

Are you saying he didn't kill his own people? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #165

They're still "killing their own people" in Libya today. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #168

From whence comes the idea that the Nobel Peace Prize treestar Aug 2012 #124

+1000. Notice it's always the same group, the issue doesn't really matter. "Obama Bad"! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #130

Yup ... another example of the diametrically opposed "Obama Bad" memes. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #185

They need to free up Syrian air space... bikebloke Aug 2012 #133

Syrians are getting pummeled by superior weaponry. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #138

What could possibly go wrong? See Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Honduras, Congo, etc for precedents. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #141

More blood. More blood. More blood. woo me with science Aug 2012 #147

See Kosovo. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #162

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #151

He was chivvied into this one by NATO Warpy Aug 2012 #157

Libya Redux. malthaussen Aug 2012 #158

OK UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #166

when we blow people and shit and stuff up or support those that do it is always righteous... Agony Aug 2012 #159

Ah Commondreams...BBI's BFF. great white snark Aug 2012 #160

Ah, BBI.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #161

knr nt slipslidingaway Aug 2012 #164

It's a tough call to make davidthegnome Aug 2012 #180