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David Hogg calls out Bernie [View all] Tavarious Jackson May 2018 OP
He's only saying what is . . . peggysue2 May 2018 #1
Facts are facts. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #2
Not quite true. Igel May 2018 #17
I haven't done the research but from what I know about the subject you have misrepresented the core grantcart May 2018 #20
Nailed it...nt SidDithers May 2018 #24
Thank you. nt brer cat May 2018 #37
Thank you. Your points are correct. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #55
Excellent example mcar May 2018 #74
+1 uponit7771 May 2018 #75
Thank you for calling out the BS. NurseJackie May 2018 #127
Thank you lunamagica May 2018 #138
Misrepresentation. Straw Man May 2018 #143
You simply don't have the facts on either the movement of guns or the law grantcart May 2018 #145
Facts? Straw Man May 2018 #153
Weird how ONLY guns get this SPECIAL protection, yet I see people want to argue with you Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #196
It's expected. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #198
Gun control ... Straw Man May 2018 #206
Says who? nt0 Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #212
Sensible gun laws are necessary.. Cha May 2018 #291
Thank you for this. thucythucy May 2018 #226
Thank you, grantcart Hekate May 2018 #148
Thanks, grantcart! BlueMTexpat May 2018 #151
Not really Lee-Lee May 2018 #157
+1000 (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #163
Products which, through defective design, pose a threat . . . MrModerate May 2018 #149
Exactly, it's like building a car with defective brakes and no emergency braking system. lark May 2018 #179
I hear you. God my stupid iphone has a better usage "lock" then any damn gun. Sunlei May 2018 #246
Not quite -- RandomAccess May 2018 #22
For good reason... SidDithers May 2018 #25
not necessarily so..... God! It was sleazy Novartis who was making most of our flu vaccines womanofthehills May 2018 #60
Yes, necessarily so. But wouldn't expect you to agree... SidDithers May 2018 #80
And DU's resident antivaxxer rears her head. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #134
You seem to think that making flu vaccine is a bad thing. ehrnst May 2018 #181
That bill was going to pass with or without Sanders' vote alarimer May 2018 #197
Ouch ! OnDoutside May 2018 #3
Yikes! Mike Nelson May 2018 #4
He can not clean up. He doesn't regret his vote Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess May 2018 #23
I'm tired of ""Mom and Pop" being used as an excuse for shielding big business EffieBlack May 2018 #33
Totally agree. "Mom and Pop" is a dodge, just like everything the repugs say. erronis May 2018 #54
Rove, Cheney and Gingrich were true pros Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #57
This! nt Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #56
Plus laws like that apply to those who employ over a certain number treestar May 2018 #125
Yep. "Closely held family business" applies to Hobby Lobby ehrnst May 2018 #178
I'd like to know how Hobby Lobby got hold of millions in looted Iraq museum pieces. Sunlei May 2018 #294
From Mother Jones. sheshe2 May 2018 #68
That's a very good article, I like MJs- last of the good, I hope they don't get bought out. Sunlei May 2018 #293
Accepting LOCAL NRA support in VT makes some sense NastyRiffraff May 2018 #95
All progressives should be 100% in favor of gun control of any kind, including.... George II May 2018 #5
On the left, I find the argument tends to be less black and white xor May 2018 #88
Not all gun control makes sense. Mindlessness support of gun control is not the answer. aikoaiko May 2018 #93
I'm speaking in terms of legislation that has come up in the House and Senate over the years.... George II May 2018 #97
What is mindless support of gun control? mcar May 2018 #103
When someone says that someone should support "gun control of any kind" aikoaiko May 2018 #173
2ND gives NO right to an individual to own a gun outside of a well regulated militia, as we all know Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #203
We do know it, Eliot mcar May 2018 #228
The bill of rights GIVES no rights. Period. None. Nada. Zip. X_Digger May 2018 #298
What about mindless support of guns? honest.abe May 2018 #162
Sure, but I haven't seen anyone say we should oppose gun control of any kind. aikoaiko May 2018 #172
So who here is advocating "mindlessness support of gun control?" ehrnst May 2018 #166
Did you read George II's post? aikoaiko May 2018 #171
So which gun control is "mindlessness?" ehrnst May 2018 #174
I didn't say any gun control was "mindless". aikoaiko May 2018 #175
You gave "supporting mindless gun control" as the only option to ehrnst May 2018 #182
That wasnt an accident I fear. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #204
You read it correctly. It doesn't look like an error in wording. R B Garr May 2018 #241
Watch the alt.left go after the kid now. RandySF May 2018 #6
Yup ismnotwasm May 2018 #8
I think that term -- alt.left -- has a very unfortunate effect RandomAccess May 2018 #28
Alt-left RandySF May 2018 #31
wait a dang minute. Kurt V. May 2018 #48
IMO, the problem with the term is that Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #50
Thank you RandomAccess May 2018 #72
I think you have them RandomAccess May 2018 #71
Exactly. nt Blue_true May 2018 #100
Whomever already has the one who tweeted this Cha May 2018 #141
Twitter has a great deal of politics Gothmog May 2018 #187
Yes, I hope he gets his account back on soon! Cha May 2018 #189
This message was self-deleted by its author Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #188
Happy Monday! NurseJackie May 2018 #194
It IS a Happy Monday! Who knew.. Cha May 2018 #239
It says, that account makes great one liners that can be weaponised for political use. Sunlei May 2018 #248
They want to censor him.. can't handle the facts.. I'm glad he tweeted what David Cha May 2018 #278
She will get her account back, it's a temp ban not permanent. really a shame Sunlei May 2018 #292
Awesome.. I can't wait until she gets Cha May 2018 #300
Alt-Left person, Jill Stein, was just another Russian tool coming from a different angle. lark May 2018 #180
There is no alt-left- Jill Stein was used by Republican party to take a few percent of votes Sunlei May 2018 #249
And both the young Kennedy and Kamala Harris are on their menu for destruction next. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #205
And Sen Booker, the Castro brothers and anyone else who dares. mcar May 2018 #230
Of course. I was just chased away from a group of "progressives" on a youtube Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #233
How dare you be a Democrat speaking up for Democrats? mcar May 2018 #234
The moderator of the chat once chastised me for saying positive things about Hillary Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #236
... mcar May 2018 #238
No it does not delegitimize the left or legitimize the alt-right. Blue_true May 2018 #98
Man, I see so bleepin' much of that here, RandomAccess May 2018 #109
You are wrong. When faced with two choices and I have no choice BUT to choose. Blue_true May 2018 #110
If that's your response, then I can only conclude RandomAccess May 2018 #118
+1 Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #113
It is not acceptance of authority treestar May 2018 #126
Yep. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #164
Already happening - that twitter account has been suspended. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #168
wait until a little closer to midterms for the millions of bots to attack ALL not-Republicans. Sunlei May 2018 #245
Yep. Maybe they'll pull up tweets from when he was 9 years old ecstatic May 2018 #296
Hmmm Fla_Democrat May 2018 #9
I'm running out of popcorn.... Fla_Democrat May 2018 #289
I sure wish I could rec this more than once! Go David! LonePirate May 2018 #10
Good! I'm glad SOMEONE is taking the lead on this. It's LONG overdue. NurseJackie May 2018 #11
Agreed Gothmog May 2018 #44
The wisdom of youth. sheshe2 May 2018 #70
But...but Bernie's dismal rating by the NRA should give him some cover. oasis May 2018 #12
Unless you're a republican you're most likely to have a dismal rating regardless of your positions. George II May 2018 #16
Curses, foiled again! oasis May 2018 #30
I count 10 Ten Democratic Senators receiving a grade of A from the NRA Uncle Joe May 2018 #51
That's 54. How old is this list? Rockefeller, for example, left office more than 3 years ago. George II May 2018 #58
I looked for a date but I couldn't find one on the site. This is from googling rankings Uncle Joe May 2018 #61
I don't but to be honest NRA ratings are irrelevant to me. All I know is the legislation..... George II May 2018 #65
"David Hogg has done his homework." sheshe2 May 2018 #78
Indeed he has and now he can expect to be attacked from many angles but NOT from Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #207
See my reply to you above. ehrnst May 2018 #170
The data is at least 5-6 years old. lapucelle May 2018 #101
Sanders' last rating was back in 2012. The way the NRA works is that they rate candidates.... George II May 2018 #111
FYI, that data is 6 years old. Some on the list are no longer in Congress, lapucelle May 2018 #96
See my post #111 for an explanation of their ratings. George II May 2018 #112
You have a rather outdated list.... Here is the most recent ehrnst May 2018 #165
The entire Senate Dem caucus have "F" ratings ehrnst May 2018 #167
I like this young man, a lot. BootinUp May 2018 #13
More and more. Put the senator's feet to the fire. brush May 2018 #29
Boom. Tipperary May 2018 #14
Yup. The PLCAA is an unconscionably pro-gun manufacturer, anti-victim law. SunSeeker May 2018 #15
Agreed Gothmog May 2018 #45
K&R musette_sf May 2018 #18
I will still take Senator Sanders any day of the week wallyworld2 May 2018 #19
I will take him only on the 8th day of the week. nt jrthin May 2018 #35
not everyone feels the same Civic Justice May 2018 #52
Take him where? I'll take him for retirement. nt stevenleser May 2018 #63
Pretty sure he's going to... tonedevil May 2018 #89
I don't think there is any evidence Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #64
I have not seen any Bernie change in the 4 decades he has been in politics. sunRISEnow May 2018 #104
I am a democrat. I support members of the Democratic Party. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #121
Boom! sheshe2 May 2018 #124
If the party and sites that support the party dont get right in the head about this Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #208
Well, for many of us, it is way more than one issue. lunamagica May 2018 #139
Me too. alarimer May 2018 #199
I do not like Hillary at all wallyworld2 May 2018 #223
David Hogg's not playing.. Cha May 2018 #21
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #26
Hillary's not running for anything now. I'm glad Cha May 2018 #34
Please stop. OldHippieChick May 2018 #43
This discussion is about gun control in this country, why are you dragging the Iraq war into it? George II May 2018 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo May 2018 #47
Please don't use 'whataboutism' to distract from the issue of gun control emulatorloo May 2018 #49
What a surprise, whataboutism was used to deflect from holding Bernie's feet to the fire stevenleser May 2018 #66
I missed the post, did the person happen to mention Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #209
DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2018 #27
I love these kids! nt jrthin May 2018 #32
K&R sheshe2 May 2018 #36
Good for David! murielm99 May 2018 #38
Another rec for David Hogg! NBachers May 2018 #39
Let it rip David. LSFL May 2018 #40
Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist, elmac May 2018 #84
He is criticizing Sanders for a position which is not progressive JI7 May 2018 #108
... NurseJackie May 2018 #120
Really? mcar May 2018 #122
I see progressives slammed on a regular basis. shanny May 2018 #128
Did you mean to respond to me? mcar May 2018 #130
Since when is voting in favor of the NRA R B Garr May 2018 #200
Never. Voting with or for the NRA is definitely NOT progressive. NurseJackie May 2018 #231
I see them slamming. Cha May 2018 #290
Slamming a Democrat perhaps...but Independents are not in great enough numbers to help us Demsrule86 May 2018 #283
No you're wrong.. David is Telling the truth.. not sweeping Cha May 2018 #146
I know that is what he says. My question is do most of his followers or supporters Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #210
My kids who were really into Sen. Sanders in 16 don't like him anymore. Demsrule86 May 2018 #284
How progressive is this? lunamagica May 2018 #271
Senator Sanders said this year, "Stay in the D party" Sunlei May 2018 #250
i like this young man. Kurt V. May 2018 #41
K&R Gothmog May 2018 #42
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2018 #53
I stand with Bernie. PLCAA is fine. aikoaiko May 2018 #59
It helps kill innocent people. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #83
Not really. aikoaiko May 2018 #92
Yes, really. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #94
K&R ! stonecutter357 May 2018 #62
Smart & Fearless....Mr. David Hogg Me. May 2018 #67
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #69
David Hogg speaks the truth.. We are supporting him and the KIDS Cha May 2018 #76
It is him and his organization "our revolution." that goes after democrats. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #77
David speaks truth mcar May 2018 #73
What a bright young man, with an exceptional future ahead of him. Tarheel_Dem May 2018 #79
I am a Kamala Harris girl, I do NOT want Bernie to run in 2020, but I am also a stickler for truth Exotica May 2018 #81
This is not about gun lobby money Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #85
And he was wrong on that, but many have, in the short time I have been here tried to equate Exotica May 2018 #90
It actually looks like you are trying to add a diversion, not context. R B Garr May 2018 #247
I reject your characterisation of my posting, as it is inferring Exotica May 2018 #251
Right. You just want to make some tangential point about money R B Garr May 2018 #252
You must have reading comprehension issues, as I already adressed this in my multiple replies. Exotica May 2018 #253
I was just reading your concerns. R B Garr May 2018 #254
You need to address your 'concerns' to them (Sanders people), not me Exotica May 2018 #255
Ah, thanks for being honest. You are concerned about R B Garr May 2018 #256
LOL, you are delusional Exotica May 2018 #257
I was just reading your "concerns." R B Garr May 2018 #258
Any rational person reading this exchange sees through you Exotica May 2018 #260
Yes, I read your exchanges and the concern over making sure R B Garr May 2018 #261
I fully explained this above, I am done with this, as you keep Exotica May 2018 #262
I just read what you wrote and how you were diverting from the topic R B Garr May 2018 #263
I didn't illustrate anything than your own projections. Exotica May 2018 #264
Talk about projections! Now you are accusing people of calling Sanders a R B Garr May 2018 #265
your 'concern' is duly noted, and I will never allow you to define me or my posts Exotica May 2018 #266
Yeah, your "concern" is duly noted, as well. R B Garr May 2018 #267
It is not "because he got any money ever from the gun lobby." lunamagica May 2018 #268
Go tell it to a Sanders supporter, not someone like me Exotica May 2018 #269
I was just addressing your point that" but other threads attempt to portray Sanders in general, lunamagica May 2018 #270
I have said he was absolutely wrong in his vote, as well all the Dems (75 in total, counting Indies) Exotica May 2018 #273
Exactly, and that wasn't even the point of David Hogg's comment. R B Garr May 2018 #280
That is such an excellent graphic. R B Garr May 2018 #281
Who would have guessed? Some big names on this list. jalan48 May 2018 #91
The gun industry couldn't buy votes from Hillary or Obama Progressive dog May 2018 #105
Hogg is talking about how he voted. Many on that list still voted FOR gun control JI7 May 2018 #106
Yet somehow your point is missed by certain folks. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #211
Well said Uncle Joe May 2018 #107
Don't let facts clog the talking points JackInGreen May 2018 #142
This is Not what David Hogg is Cha May 2018 #147
I already responded to this above. Exotica May 2018 #150
Good, then you know what David is saying is Important.. Cha May 2018 #152
Yes, and I hope he calls out all who helped shield the gun manufacturers. Exotica May 2018 #154
How many others are out there Cha May 2018 #155
here is a list of every Democratic Caucus member who voted for it (including Sanders) Exotica May 2018 #156
I trust the intelligent, passionate young Cha May 2018 #158
I never said I was against Hogg at all, or what he did Exotica May 2018 #159
I didn't say you did. Cha May 2018 #160
All good then! Cheers Exotica May 2018 #161
thank you for speaking the truth questionseverything May 2018 #224
The patriot who posted this video is being harrassed heavily Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #82
Of course he is.. You say he's "Not" Cha May 2018 #115
I mean Now, not.. not. nt Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #119
I figured you meant that. :( Cha May 2018 #135
Yes, it was mob alert that got him temp suspended. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #184
So glad! Cha May 2018 #186
Suspended for posting a video of David telling the truth? What the fuck? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #213
oh my, oh my, Sanders isn't perfect elmac May 2018 #86
I think a large number of these kids are single issue voters. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #129
It is much more than that lunamagica May 2018 #272
Thanks for posting Gothmog May 2018 #275
sued for what? He's a good person & wants to help, do the right thing-but he's a shallow speaker. Sunlei May 2018 #87
Bernie voted to immunize gun manufacturers from product liability in 2005 ucrdem May 2018 #99
David Hogg is an excellent, passionate speaker Cha May 2018 #114
Was David Hoggs called a "shallow" speaker on this forum? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #214
No worries, Eliot.. Cha May 2018 #227
He is an excellent passionate speaker & 2 months- new to political arena & corporate 'law' Sunlei May 2018 #242
We're Fortunate to have him. I'm just sorry Cha May 2018 #276
A "shallow speaker?" mcar May 2018 #232
It's sounds insulting.. Cha May 2018 #277
This is how state Senators progress "gun control" legally in the courts! Sunlei May 2018 #244
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #102
Sen. Sanders is correct on this matter Devil Child May 2018 #116
So why not shield other industries also ? JI7 May 2018 #117
Other industries didn't have the coordinate lawsuits against them like gun manufacturers tammywammy May 2018 #131
Has anyone ever sued a car dealer for selling to someone with a previous drunk-driving conviction PoliticAverse May 2018 #202
Is the primary purpose a car is built to kill human beings? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #215
No he's not, (link) uponit7771 May 2018 #133
Mahalo for the link, uponit! Cha May 2018 #136
How do I un-block the intro to General Discussion? I want to see if gun... LAS14 May 2018 #123
K&R R B Garr May 2018 #132
I knew it was just a matter of time...Sanders tried to use their movement for his purposes lunamagica May 2018 #137
David Hogg is fearless workinclasszero May 2018 #140
David Hogg is FEARLESS! He sees a Cha May 2018 #144
The kid is awesome in my book Cha workinclasszero May 2018 #193
I truly admire this young man Gothmog May 2018 #219
David and all the #YPWW are all Cha May 2018 #229
And that twitter account is now suspended. ehrnst May 2018 #169
Do you do twiiter? Just because a Cha May 2018 #176
It's stalking, and harassment, and a clear abuse of the rules! Their admins suck... NurseJackie May 2018 #183
Right. There are a lot of opinions on twitter Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #185
I swear I have to get on there Cha May 2018 #190
Bravernak is on there. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #191
Yeah, I do too.. love brave! Cha May 2018 #192
I love Bravenak's tweets also Gothmog May 2018 #220
There were other tweets from that account that would ehrnst May 2018 #221
Yes, you can imagine who reported the account. It is very easy in fact. Let me help you. LonePirate May 2018 #177
So one has to assume supporters of a certain politician got that account censored. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #216
Sanders also said he is in favor now of repealing it. alarimer May 2018 #195
+1 Uncle Joe May 2018 #201
And none of those people should be our 2020 nominee nt Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #217
Nelson of Florida is one of the few still active in politics Gothmog May 2018 #218
Agreed... a vote like that should DISQUALIFY anyone from calling themselves "progressive"... NurseJackie May 2018 #235
Agree 100% Power 2 the People May 2018 #222
DLC and Third way dems? Feels like a smear. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #237
It's David Hogg talking about the reality of Cha May 2018 #240
It's toxic and I don't spend much time here because of it. alarimer May 2018 #274
Shouldn't be surprising. trump is in the White House and people are furious ecstatic May 2018 #299
If true, kudos... assuming we ever get the house/senate back and that the Brady Bill ecstatic May 2018 #297
Gun Control Advocates are not going to forget or forgive Gothmog May 2018 #225
how to sue Corporations. prove 'fraud', or breaking a law or lies. Sunlei May 2018 #243
I'm going to go with the more consistent voice with respect to gun control. NCTraveler May 2018 #259
I don't think it's a "mistake" to speak the truth.. Cha May 2018 #279
It has zero to do with fear. NCTraveler May 2018 #282
David already said.. he didn't take nra money. Cha May 2018 #285
I just don't see fear as having anything to do with it. NCTraveler May 2018 #286
That isn't what I said.. David said BS didn't take Cha May 2018 #287
When I read something incorrectly.... NCTraveler May 2018 #288
Smart boy/ young man ecstatic May 2018 #295
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