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In reply to the discussion: Was Monica Lewinsky a victim of sexual harassment or [View all]JI7
(89,247 posts)8. No from Clinton
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Since she initiated it, she is not without fault in the matter. Bill was wrong too.
bettyellen
May 2018
#2
The balance of power was such that he COULDN'T walk away without consequences
EffieBlack
May 2018
#78
The fact that she admits threatening him.... is pretty damning. She knew she had her own cards and
bettyellen
May 2018
#116
It seems like she was disappointed she didn't break up their marriage... so she allowed her affair
bettyellen
May 2018
#23
Take all of Bill's faults, multiply them by ten million and he is still a FAR better person
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#55
She bragged to a friend before going to DC that she was going to earn her "presidential knepads." nt
tblue37
May 2018
#44
I dislike treating a 22 year old as a child. If he had made the first move I could see thinking she
bettyellen
May 2018
#92
Recognizing the unequal power the two wielded isn't treating either like a child.
Orsino
May 2018
#94
Harassment is pressure, and I'm afraid there was none. I've been harassed and it wasn't my decision
bettyellen
May 2018
#95
We could convincingly both-sides the matter if they were just two people who didn't work together...
Orsino
May 2018
#98
It doesn't matter to you that she initiated it? I can't agree. I didn't see where he
bettyellen
May 2018
#99
In the context of workplace harassment it does matter who initiated it. She should have been fired
bettyellen
May 2018
#103
I agree completely. Clinton was a huge disappointment, but I can't see holding her up as a victim in
bettyellen
May 2018
#102
Agreed, I can't say she's to be counted among those who are truly harassed in the workplace-
bettyellen
May 2018
#108
Thank you! As someone who was harassed at work and fired for refusing my smelly boss...
bettyellen
May 2018
#113
Ugh, I had one interview where the guy was cagey, a no show first time. When I showed up the second
bettyellen
May 2018
#121
which doesn't make Bill Clinton any less guilty... and he should have known better.
lapfog_1
May 2018
#15
this has always been problematic to me because though it was consensual, there was power mismatch
hlthe2b
May 2018
#6
She flashed her thong underwear and bare hip at him, so she sexually signaled him.
pnwmom
May 2018
#64
A good question. If Clinton were a Republican we would have, and did, scream bloody murder
elocs
May 2018
#7
The difficulty in answering that is why you don't sleep with those you manage
mythology
May 2018
#10
Since Monica supposedly told friends before she went to Washington that she was going to
Arkansas Granny
May 2018
#13
I Agree that Workplace "Romances" are a Poor Idea-But Do You All Realize How Common it Is?
Stallion
May 2018
#16
I agree they are a poor idea but only because they are complicated. There is nothing
Squinch
May 2018
#43
There was a disparity in power but it doesn't meet the legal definition of sexual harassment
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2018
#17
Lewinsky explaining her various evolution on the matter, of which she still does not have an absolut
LanternWaste
May 2018
#22
Sorry, Monica. At 22 year old you are considered to be an adult. You play by adult rules and you
Arkansas Granny
May 2018
#29
Thank You-I wrote something like that but I was not sure if it would be taken well
Stallion
May 2018
#45
Yet we call 22 year olds "kids" when they can want to stay on their parent's insurance
MichMan
May 2018
#71
that has to do with getting more health care coverage and the reality of things like affordability,
JI7
May 2018
#81
The three ring circus that eventually formed around her had to have been unbearably difficult.
Squinch
May 2018
#47
Here's the part that's not complicated: she flashed her thong underwear and bare hip
pnwmom
May 2018
#63
She was an intern, not an employee. As an intern she had a boss who was over the interns
politicaljunkie41910
May 2018
#61
Yes, she was. He didn't ask her to flash her thong at him --that was HER way of initiating this.
pnwmom
May 2018
#62
Your statement is incorrect from the get go. He did not ask her, she approached and asked him.
stevenleser
May 2018
#107
When you go into your boss' office and show him your drawers, you waive the sexual harassment claim
EffieBlack
May 2018
#79
Ah, in Spring the perennials bloom. No, Monica and Bill were a match made in Fool's Paradise...
Hekate
May 2018
#109