HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Pulitzer-winning reporter... » Reply #56

Response to VOX (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:02 PM

56. Actually, I don't agree with the supposed cause and effect.

We're far less "exceptional" than that compared to other peoples, and far far better than suggested. THIS is the rest of what happened to us:

Over the past four decades planetary wealth has quadrupled, and dangerous amounts of it went to creation of centimillionaire and billionaire classes who can buy politicians with their chump change. And they did, working overwhelmingly through conservative politicians who were biased to support their goals.

Think what that means. Government corruption is not a crumbling around some dishonest people, but rather a deliberate hostile reordering of representative government to serve a few. They hired many entities to have laws passed and rewritten to serve them, not us. "That's what they do. That's all they do."

As for us, and this dismal mindset, as far back as the 1970s wealthy conservatives started plotting to move our nation far right and to use new psychological techniques of mass manipulation to achieve it. They started very early with dividing the electorate in order to conquer, taking an important lesson from the New Deal era when a majority united against them.

From then their wealth exploded, and with it their power. And with the advent of information technology and new techniques for manipulation, their ability increased to divide, corrupt and and demoralize the electorate. The most vulnerable to their ultraconservative aims are, of course, are on the right, but they've done their best to destroy everyone's belief in our nation, our political systems, our people, and above all the Democratic Party and its people ever since.

They've now approached pretty close to their goal of taking us over, which we only know because this is the wake-up phase for us.

So wake up. It takes awareness and intellectual independence to see our real world. We can see the lies designed for the right well enough, but it's much, much harder to recognize those designed to corrupt our thinking and to see their influence on ourselves.

Start by looking at the unquestioning acceptance of the OP's dismal but desperately twisted and dishonest word-picture of what we are. And question it and the initial acceptance. Does that really describe YOU? How about most of the people you know personally?

Go take a 10-minute walk anywhere you are and look around you. Their dismal picture kind of leaves out all the good, all the stability, all that is most of what we are. Everything you will see, in fact.

And a huge part of what is very good, btw, is that our democratic systems are much harder to destroy than they realized. They've been inside government tearing away at our national innards with varying strengths since 1980 and before, and even as they succeed in destroying belief in our damaged systems, those are still standing up to the severe stresses of the current Republican government that entered office to finish the job.

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 66 replies Author Time Post
DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
dalton99a Apr 2018 #1
Botany Apr 2018 #2
dalton99a Apr 2018 #5
KPN Apr 2018 #20
Botany Apr 2018 #23
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #26
KPN Apr 2018 #37
Botany Apr 2018 #40
Sophia4 Apr 2018 #45
Botany Apr 2018 #59
FakeNoose Apr 2018 #4
LineLineLineReply .
dalton99a Apr 2018 #6
llmart Apr 2018 #10
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #27
certainot Apr 2018 #21
FakeNoose Apr 2018 #24
certainot Apr 2018 #42
Cha Apr 2018 #62
malthaussen Apr 2018 #3
uponit7771 Apr 2018 #7
not fooled Apr 2018 #12
Orsino Apr 2018 #8
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #28
Orsino Apr 2018 #29
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #31
Orsino Apr 2018 #34
leftyladyfrommo Apr 2018 #9
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #32
misanthrope Apr 2018 #47
ginnyinWI Apr 2018 #11
VOX Apr 2018 #13
Bradshaw3 Apr 2018 #16
Nay Apr 2018 #41
LineLineReply Actually, I don't agree with the supposed cause and effect.
Hortensis Apr 2018 #56
FakeNoose Apr 2018 #14
True Blue American Apr 2018 #15
KPN Apr 2018 #17
Texin Apr 2018 #18
Enoki33 Apr 2018 #25
Orsino Apr 2018 #30
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #35
Orsino Apr 2018 #38
FakeNoose Apr 2018 #33
BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #19
extvbroadcaster Apr 2018 #22
FakeNoose Apr 2018 #36
calimary Apr 2018 #63
leanforward Apr 2018 #39
yonder Apr 2018 #43
yonder Apr 2018 #44
cp Apr 2018 #46
niyad Apr 2018 #48
LanternWaste Apr 2018 #49
Scurrilous Apr 2018 #50
zentrum Apr 2018 #51
murielm99 Apr 2018 #52
lark Apr 2018 #53
oasis Apr 2018 #54
HenryWallace Apr 2018 #55
Grins Apr 2018 #57
KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2018 #58
red dog 1 Apr 2018 #60
LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #61
patty_bateman Apr 2018 #65
LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #66
DFW Apr 2018 #64
Please login to view edit histories.