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Hoyt

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32. Even Barney Frank said not to bash these Senators, and that the changes weren't that bad.

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:26 PM

Mar 2018

Before condemning these senators, take a look at this video from Vice on HBO. In it, Frank says don't condemn these senators, 95% of Dodd-Frank is not changed, and more.

What Barney Frank Really Thinks About Roll-Back of Dodd-Frank.

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Why 17 Democrats voted with Republicans to ease bank rules/I am sick of Democratic bashing. [View all] Demsrule86 Mar 2018 OP

Which is more important, this country and the people or them keeping jobs?? Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #1

ALL that matters is D's are in seats, no matter who they are or what they voted on. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #3

Do you mean this or are you being sarcastic? oberliner Mar 2018 #5

No...the math is everything...warm Democratic bodies are needed for a majority...even a less Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #27

Okay atreides1 Mar 2018 #52

Yes, it's called politics and it sucks njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #54

I would ask you to consider if losing elections and allowing the GOP to destroy progressive policy Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #62

Suppose republicans figure this out, pangaia Mar 2018 #53

Our moderate Dems have never caucused with the Republicans after election. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #63

I have to agree, we are in survival mode njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #51

We have to win...and I don't think folks understand that there are many Senators up for re-election Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #64

we better because bdamomma Mar 2018 #67

Agree. Of course, once Dems rule the House and Senate, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #68

Them keeping their jobs...can you imagine 7-17 more GOP senators in 18? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #4

I am worried, that we still have to convince people about the math. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #6

Right it is math...and when I looked into the why Democrats (some) voted for this bill, I understood Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #9

I hate they voted for it, in a perfect world I would work to replace them with someone who wouldnt Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #15

Those that had selfish reasons can be voted out in a primary after we take power back...in Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #25

How do we explain that though. This onslaught of millions of new voters, energized Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #28

Another poster had a video from Barney Frank who says the bill is not that bad...I didn't think it Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #36

What is so sad is how some folks just cant get it in their heads this is NOT about Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #38

The pugs have been more successful than us because they look to the bigger picture consistently. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #65

Well, we actually picked up 6 seats in the House in 2016... Demit Mar 2018 #24

We really do...and we can get good stuff down only if we win. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #29

Well.... awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #8

+1000 Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #11

I'm with you on that............. MyOwnPeace Mar 2018 #30

Makes sense. awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #2

17 Dems are concerned about their re-election. I don't blame them and if we took Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #7

I agree with you. (read my other post above) nt awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #10

I did read it and thought it was spot on. Even sent smilies! (haha) Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #14

Right on! awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #16

I call bullshit on this article hueymahl Mar 2018 #12

It would be used to show that Democrats are blocking everything Trump does...and red state Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #17

If they can't spin this in their favor, they deserve to lose hueymahl Mar 2018 #20

We can't afford for them to lose...it would be a huge disaster for all. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #23

That is my point hueymahl Mar 2018 #26

The red state Democrats did not vote for anything else this year...and were being portrayed as Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #39

I hear you and I disagree, respectfully hueymahl Mar 2018 #46

What this meant is less banks will qualify for this...and won't be able to screw taxpayers...I want Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #49

You and I agree 100% that we need a Democratic Majority to get more/better regs! NT hueymahl Mar 2018 #56

There is agreement in what is needed...we just have different ideas on how to achieve it. In the end Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #66

They are being portrayed as having voted for nothing...this helps in that way. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #50

Yes. Bullshit. Orsino Mar 2018 #72

I don't get why they think this is an issue people care about marylandblue Mar 2018 #13

Go on right wing websites and read about it...they care about everything Trump cares about. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #19

Anyone hanging out on a Riecht Wing website is not voting for a Democrat hueymahl Mar 2018 #22

I go there to see what the enemy is up to...but if you want to see why seven Dems voted Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #35

My opponent tried to stop banks from ripping you off! leftstreet Mar 2018 #18

These are red state Senators and those with banking interests in their states. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #21

You're saying GOPer voters love banks? leftstreet Mar 2018 #37

No, I am saying the red state Democrats are being portrayed as being in lockstep with Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #42

So we have to sit quietly by and not say a word when Democrats act like Republicans?? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #31

No, say what you want within the rules of course, but vote Democratic always. We must Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #33

Even Barney Frank said not to bash these Senators, and that the changes weren't that bad. Hoyt Mar 2018 #32

There are not bad changes as the article I posted shows. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #34

If somebody votes like a Republican you have a Republican. davsand Mar 2018 #40

You won't get your version of Democrats in red states and without such Democrats, we will never Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #44

I could CALL myself a Republican, but it won't make me one. davsand Mar 2018 #57

In order to win a majority, we need moderate Dems...we can't have one any other way...50 state Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #61

I do not consider the red state Democrats Republicans...they are moderate Democrats. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #69

I wonder if purity of vote will be as important as being drafted into a war with Iran for some. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2018 #41

My fear is that Trump will use nukes on Korea...and will start a nuclear war...and you are right. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #45

So what is Mark Warner's "excuse" besides bullshit and Kaine didn't need the cover in Virginia! FreeStateDemocrat Mar 2018 #43

Both Virginia Senators voted for it because rural voters have a reduced access to capital... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #47

Fuck them? if they don't win re-election, we are fucked. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #48

This is exactly the type of talking points I heard most of 2016 from purists and the Bernie crowd BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #55

If a "Dem" won't vote with the party on anything they are hurting the party. davsand Mar 2018 #58

This was one vote of many...red state Dems voted with the Democratic majority over 90% Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #59

so what do you suggest? BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #70

That is a good point...and we work at the grassrooots and legislature level to win hearts and Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #71

That is what I am hoping for...in order to do that we have to keep the Senators we have...reality is Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #60