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In reply to the discussion: Bradley Manning to Testify on ‘Unlawful Pretrial Punishment’ He Endured [View all]lovuian
(19,362 posts)28. Manning was tortured no doubt about it
America military tortures its own soldiers
I talked to an ex Navy Seal who under went waterboarding as
a training for if captured behind enemy lines
Noone can withstand torture and waterboarding
Nobody
they knew it and yet they did it
A person's brain isn't the same afterwards
just like solitary confinement destroys
By torturing it shows that the US government acknowledges Torture of which
it has documented and admitted it did
Abu Ghahib and there is a reason why Guatanomo is not on US soil to avoid the legal system of America
in the Military Tribunal of WWII we killed generals for ordering waterboarding on our soldiers
and today we have to deal with why we are torturing .....
America is not the America it once was ....
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Bradley Manning to Testify on ‘Unlawful Pretrial Punishment’ He Endured [View all]
babsbunny
Jul 2012
OP
From what I can tell, his pretrial conditions at Quantico were standard for someone
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#1
Interesting, but State Department Official P.J. Crowley does not agree with you.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#2
Nobody's gonna second guess the jailers on that: everybody's gonna take the POV
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#7
I think you underestimate people's ability to determine what a jailer's motivations might be.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#10
Well, let us turn it over and over a bit. Here are some exercises for you:
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#17
it's like what happens if you make a joke about robbing a bank... while you're in a bank, or
dionysus
Jul 2012
#27
Well, you'll have to forgive me if I think that a State Department Official has access to more
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#5
Crowley merely articulated what many civil rights organizations were concerned about
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#11
You are right. He was not suicidal and I thought that had been pretty much established, at least
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#36
Manning's 'trial' is a mere show. He has already been convicted and has no chance of
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#12
Actually, any public testimony of Mr. Manning, regardless of venue, will help the prosecution.
msanthrope
Jul 2012
#15
To judge from his lawyer's activity to date, his defense isn't "I didn't do it"
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#18
Manning always expected consequences for what he did. He fully understood, as the chat logs
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#20
So basically all the Government has to do is deny his motion ... move on folks, nothing to see here.
1-Old-Man
Jul 2012
#13
Manning's already been declared guilty by his CIC. There's no question of how the military
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#14
Then you haven't read his own words, spoken before he was known to be the leaker.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#25
You don't have to 'believe' Manning, all you have to do is read some of the leaked material
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#30