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NutmegYankee

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24. Your link doesn't work.

Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:52 AM

Mar 2018

Also, it appears to be from a commercial entity, and not an actual legal opinion/decision.

Let me ask you this Hoyt, why did both the United Kingdom and Australia, both countries that have the same legal system as the USA (Common Law), compensate their gun owners? Because it's how the law works. You can pout about it and say obnoxious things about those who disagree with you, but you can't change 1000 years of legal precedent on government seizure of private property.

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Gun owners sue Florida over 'bump stock' ban [View all] Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 OP

Anyone with a bump stock is a threat to society and should prohibited from owning any guns. Hoyt Mar 2018 #1

Anyone with a bean can is a threat....no? AncientGeezer Mar 2018 #3

Can the beans inside the can morph into lead bullets? boston bean Mar 2018 #39

White Wing Racists Have Right To Own Bump Stocks Too SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #6

Rat-a-tat-tat is fun. That's the supposed reason. jmowreader Mar 2018 #7

"Takings Clause" does not apply because the lethal accessory is not being taken Hoyt Mar 2018 #9

Public use, or public purpose since 1954 NickB79 Mar 2018 #17

No they don't. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #34

Waiting period should be at least one week Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #2

"But I'm mad NOW!" FiveGoodMen Mar 2018 #40

They should just legalize murder and get it over with already. Initech Mar 2018 #4

You're Exactly Right SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #5

Only murder with an AR-15 crazycatlady Mar 2018 #38

If the current law has no provision for compensation, they will likely win NickB79 Mar 2018 #8

Compensation applies when property is taken for public use. The public ain't Hoyt Mar 2018 #10

The USSC ruled on this issue in 2015, and ruled personal property is covered NickB79 Mar 2018 #11

For public use. Read the 5th Amendment and case, don't leave out Hoyt Mar 2018 #12

It's certainly a public purpose fescuerescue Mar 2018 #14

In my view and I am sure the defense attorneys, it's like prohibiting loud exhausts or other public Hoyt Mar 2018 #15

They are legal in 49 states, so they inherently have value NickB79 Mar 2018 #19

Not the same thing Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #22

loud exhausts are perfectly legal in all states fescuerescue Mar 2018 #41

Let' hope not. White wingers-- the vast majority of gun promoters -- need to have some of Hoyt Mar 2018 #43

Public use, OR public purpose since 1954 NickB79 Mar 2018 #18

Look, gunners have been spreading this junk, just like they misinterpret 2nd Amendment and Heller Hoyt Mar 2018 #20

The government does not seize a car that cant pass inspection Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #23

They are banned from the streets. Besides read this article about the Taking Clause and PUBLIC USE. Hoyt Mar 2018 #27

Done under the guise of public safety is public use Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #36

Switchblades are still legally owned in most states. NutmegYankee Mar 2018 #25

Fine, we should learn from that and ban the private sale and ownership of so-called assault weapons Hoyt Mar 2018 #28

switches blades were banned to stop gang violence. fescuerescue Mar 2018 #42

Based on Horne v. Department of Agriculture and Berman v. Parker, they have a case. NutmegYankee Mar 2018 #13

Well, based on this, they don't have much case. Anyone can sue and delay laws that save lives, but Hoyt Mar 2018 #21

Your link doesn't work. NutmegYankee Mar 2018 #24

Cut and paste the link or search under the title. It cites laws specific to guns. Nutmeg, I really Hoyt Mar 2018 #26

Some of these cases are based restrictions of sales. NutmegYankee Mar 2018 #29

We'll find out soon enough. I don't think the white wingers who want bump stocks will prevail. Hoyt Mar 2018 #32

It is a non sequitur to state belief in compensation means I want bump stocks in society. NutmegYankee Mar 2018 #33

Wonder what gunners are going to say about Sessions making possession illegal WITHOUT COMPENSATION? Hoyt Mar 2018 #45

Things have been banned before with no compensation. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #35

...because it can definitely take 20-30 rounds, full auto, to hit Bambi. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #16

They are fighting for our rights! Turbineguy Mar 2018 #30

K & R... Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #31

If a receipt is shown to prove it was a valid purchase and Delmette2.0 Mar 2018 #37

They have a point, I don't like the idea of government seizing any property without compensation Amishman Mar 2018 #44