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2. Interesting, but State Department Official P.J. Crowley does not agree with you.

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:06 PM

Jul 2012

After speaking out and calling the treatment of Manning who was in solitary confinement 'counter-productive' he resigned his position in the State Department. He's not exactly known for making wild anti-military or government statements.

And Manning did not 'joke' about suicide. He was challenging the excuse being used to keep him in solitary confinement.

The treatment of Manning has been an embarrassment for the US and I hope he does get to testify about it, since he knows far more about it than we do and we should have an interest in getting the facts, unless we are afraid of something.

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Bradley Manning to Testify on ‘Unlawful Pretrial Punishment’ He Endured [View all] babsbunny Jul 2012 OP

From what I can tell, his pretrial conditions at Quantico were standard for someone struggle4progress Jul 2012 #1

Interesting, but State Department Official P.J. Crowley does not agree with you. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #2

Manning lawyer: Suicide joke led to stripping struggle4progress Jul 2012 #3

I know what his lawyer said having followed the case as it was happening. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #6

Nobody's gonna second guess the jailers on that: everybody's gonna take the POV struggle4progress Jul 2012 #7

I think you underestimate people's ability to determine what a jailer's motivations might be. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #10

Well, let us turn it over and over a bit. Here are some exercises for you: struggle4progress Jul 2012 #17

Manning was not suicidal so your questions are not relevant. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #23

it's like what happens if you make a joke about robbing a bank... while you're in a bank, or dionysus Jul 2012 #27

P.J. Crowley, of course, was and is entitled to his opinion. And struggle4progress Jul 2012 #4

Well, you'll have to forgive me if I think that a State Department Official has access to more sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #5

That's fine. There's no question he's a bright and competent man struggle4progress Jul 2012 #8

Crowley merely articulated what many civil rights organizations were concerned about sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #11

You need to get some chronology straight struggle4progress Jul 2012 #16

What does someone else committing suicide have to do with Manning? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #26

I.m.h.o., snot Jul 2012 #32

You are right. He was not suicidal and I thought that had been pretty much established, at least sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #36

Army Psychs Said Manning Not Suicidal Dan de Lyons Jul 2012 #33

Manning was tortured no doubt about it lovuian Jul 2012 #28

Yes, I didn't think there was any doubt it. But as always lately, I am sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #31

Good. I hope he testifies. That will be a plus for the prosecution. nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #9

Manning's 'trial' is a mere show. He has already been convicted and has no chance of sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #12

Actually, any public testimony of Mr. Manning, regardless of venue, will help the prosecution. msanthrope Jul 2012 #15

To judge from his lawyer's activity to date, his defense isn't "I didn't do it" struggle4progress Jul 2012 #18

Manning always expected consequences for what he did. He fully understood, as the chat logs sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #20

So basically all the Government has to do is deny his motion ... move on folks, nothing to see here. 1-Old-Man Jul 2012 #13

Manning's already been declared guilty by his CIC. There's no question of how the military riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #14

Manning's 15 minutes is up. He's just trying to extend it. NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #19

So you are not familiar with this case either? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #21

I can tell you what I wouldn't do TorchTheWitch Jul 2012 #24

Then you haven't read his own words, spoken before he was known to be the leaker. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #25

Actually, from your comments, I think I am more familiar NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #29

You don't have to 'believe' Manning, all you have to do is read some of the leaked material sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #30

I've seen the video, and read some of the leaked material but NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #34

Actually he wasn't 'a very disturbed person' before joining the military. He was like many other sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #35

Good... Get It All On The Record... WillyT Jul 2012 #22