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In reply to the discussion: Bradley Manning to Testify on ‘Unlawful Pretrial Punishment’ He Endured [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)2. Interesting, but State Department Official P.J. Crowley does not agree with you.
After speaking out and calling the treatment of Manning who was in solitary confinement 'counter-productive' he resigned his position in the State Department. He's not exactly known for making wild anti-military or government statements.
And Manning did not 'joke' about suicide. He was challenging the excuse being used to keep him in solitary confinement.
The treatment of Manning has been an embarrassment for the US and I hope he does get to testify about it, since he knows far more about it than we do and we should have an interest in getting the facts, unless we are afraid of something.
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Bradley Manning to Testify on ‘Unlawful Pretrial Punishment’ He Endured [View all]
babsbunny
Jul 2012
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From what I can tell, his pretrial conditions at Quantico were standard for someone
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#1
Interesting, but State Department Official P.J. Crowley does not agree with you.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#2
Nobody's gonna second guess the jailers on that: everybody's gonna take the POV
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#7
I think you underestimate people's ability to determine what a jailer's motivations might be.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#10
Well, let us turn it over and over a bit. Here are some exercises for you:
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#17
it's like what happens if you make a joke about robbing a bank... while you're in a bank, or
dionysus
Jul 2012
#27
Well, you'll have to forgive me if I think that a State Department Official has access to more
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#5
Crowley merely articulated what many civil rights organizations were concerned about
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#11
You are right. He was not suicidal and I thought that had been pretty much established, at least
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#36
Manning's 'trial' is a mere show. He has already been convicted and has no chance of
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#12
Actually, any public testimony of Mr. Manning, regardless of venue, will help the prosecution.
msanthrope
Jul 2012
#15
To judge from his lawyer's activity to date, his defense isn't "I didn't do it"
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#18
Manning always expected consequences for what he did. He fully understood, as the chat logs
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#20
So basically all the Government has to do is deny his motion ... move on folks, nothing to see here.
1-Old-Man
Jul 2012
#13
Manning's already been declared guilty by his CIC. There's no question of how the military
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#14
Then you haven't read his own words, spoken before he was known to be the leaker.
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#25
You don't have to 'believe' Manning, all you have to do is read some of the leaked material
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#30