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William Seger

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52. "fools, frauds and fascists" and felons

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They are turning on Trumpy! About time! Mona Charen just wrote about being escorted out of CPAC [View all] FM123 Feb 2018 OP

Mona, you can cry, cry, cry -- but you helped get him elected. So. live with it. nt NCjack Feb 2018 #1

I'm happy with every convert. Every Republican who decides to vote for Democrats no matter what pnwmom Feb 2018 #2

It is a personal opinion, but I think you are Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #7

There are a number who are urging it. If they are openly telling others to do so, pnwmom Feb 2018 #14

I welcome anyone who criticizes Trump louis c Feb 2018 #27

limbaugh will straighten her out on monday certainot Feb 2018 #40

LOL pangaia Feb 2018 #76

The time for "debating" policy is long past Paleologue Feb 2018 #54

I believe that Mona wants to revise the GOP to be slightly left of Trump. That is, she likes NCjack Feb 2018 #63

First, throw out Trump and his enablers... louis c Feb 2018 #64

It's a positive step when they won't vote for a tRump or a tRump-licker like Paul Ryan. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #33

I, too, welcome ANY criticism of the PGIC. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #42

You are right on the details but wrong on the bigger picture grantcart Feb 2018 #47

If we vote, we win Cary Feb 2018 #50

A former republican congressman, circa 2010-2014. Blue_true Feb 2018 #69

Every conservative activist who gives up in disgust is welcome to do so DBoon Feb 2018 #29

Have you heard of what Benjamin Wittes is trying to do? n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #32

No, sorry DBoon Feb 2018 #37

He's a centrist founder of the Lawfare blog, and he's organizing a group of R's to pledge pnwmom Feb 2018 #43

Yes. I don't think true republican conservatives have any choice but to vote with us. Blue_true Feb 2018 #67

I agree. Zoonart Feb 2018 #3

So far, the only time she speaks out is when Trump says or does something bad about a spooky3 Feb 2018 #44

That realization is coming home to lots of more traditional Republicans. MineralMan Feb 2018 #4

They knew he was a snake before they took him in. gibraltar72 Feb 2018 #5

Yes. But people who survive a venomous snake bite MineralMan Feb 2018 #8

Absolutely. The Repub congress is much farther right Hortensis Feb 2018 #17

Yup. If someone is moving in our direction, give them a hand and MineralMan Feb 2018 #20

Yup, yup, yup. Save partisan indulgences for Hortensis Feb 2018 #21

The teapary or freedumb contingent are ignorant racists who got involved to Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #55

This from you, Eliot? Nonsense, even for the worst of them. Hortensis Feb 2018 #57

What? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #60

Comeon, that's too simplistic for you, surely? Hortensis Feb 2018 #62

I think this is true. volstork Feb 2018 #31

A lot of republicans who had concerns about Trump Blue_true Feb 2018 #71

I so hope you are correct. volstork Feb 2018 #73

I hope that I am correct to, but we can't let voting get to a case where our backs are Blue_true Feb 2018 #75

Absolutely. volstork Feb 2018 #80

I still have trouble thinking of their current drive as being to the "Right" as we know it. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #56

A lot of republicans have long family histories of being republican. Blue_true Feb 2018 #70

She wants her conservatives to be crazy, just not bat-shit crazy. nm Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #6

Sorry, but for her just figuring this out now is beyond rediculous. madinmaryland Feb 2018 #9

She is in denial. Conservatives have used hate and identity politics for decades sharedvalues Feb 2018 #10

Kinda like Michael Steele being shocked shocked that CPAC was racist. gibraltar72 Feb 2018 #11

Its really a sign conservatives are just more poorly educated sharedvalues Feb 2018 #12

Yet Steele backed Ed Gillespie, and didn't criticize him when he went down the racist road. OnDoutside Feb 2018 #22

At this point in time . . peggysue2 Feb 2018 #13

+1000. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #15

That is true, but I would like MSM to push them on what exactly "Conservatism" is. If Trump wasn't OnDoutside Feb 2018 #26

I don't like Pence or peggysue2 Feb 2018 #35

No argument on that score. OnDoutside Feb 2018 #59

Totally agree. Silver1 Feb 2018 #34

Well said. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #68

Thanks. Silver1 Feb 2018 #78

I don't think anyone will recognize you, RandomAccess Feb 2018 #79

I hope they ALL turn on Trumpy and soon! FM123 Feb 2018 #16

So you are a republican conservative? BSdetect Feb 2018 #18

Sad truth sharedvalues Feb 2018 #23

They didn't "out" him while campaigning because they ALL took russian dirty money. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #19

Cit U and dark money are the root problem Nm sharedvalues Feb 2018 #24

Thank you Mona Charen. You are on the right side of History today. riversedge Feb 2018 #25

There is no "Trumpism", Mona. Your party is doing exactly what you built it to do. JHB Feb 2018 #28

There is a direct line from Nixon to Trump DBoon Feb 2018 #30

There's a direct line from 1952 conservatives.. JHB Feb 2018 #39

Precisely! paleotn Feb 2018 #48

Mona appears to be at Step 1 of 12. She acknowledges her political life has become unmanageable. Marcuse Feb 2018 #36

I'll drink to that! nolabels Feb 2018 #66

Who built that fire, Mona? czarjak Feb 2018 #38

I've been waiting and waiting for this. nt LAS14 Feb 2018 #41

"So you'd think." Beartracks Feb 2018 #45

She's upset.... paleotn Feb 2018 #46

K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #49

She's a woman, so it will be easier for them to dismiss her as easily corruptable ehrnst Feb 2018 #51

"fools, frauds and fascists" and felons William Seger Feb 2018 #52

Mona Charen, exposing some decent instincts. That's how bad trump has made things. (nt) Paladin Feb 2018 #53

Boo freaking hoo to all of the right wing lunatics like Charen Paleologue Feb 2018 #58

you planted the seeds..you own the fruit dembotoz Feb 2018 #61

She and her fellow conservatives turned the GOP from the party of... JHB Feb 2018 #74

She and other conservatives. Blue_true Feb 2018 #65

of course she got booed and escorted out. She had an extremely rare bout of brief truth telling mnmoderatedem Feb 2018 #72

Well said, Mona.. too bad you don't tell the truth Cha Feb 2018 #77