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121. This is a distraction, designed to make us forget we want to ban

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 06:15 PM

Feb 2018

the weapons of war. He could have been "the good guy with the gun" and saved everybody, so we don't need to ban the war weapons.

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Sheriff's deputy did 'nothing' as gunman hunted students during Florida shooting [View all] ansible Feb 2018 OP

Meanwhile, some people expect temporary311 Feb 2018 #1

But some 100 pound, 5 foot tall little teacher lady is supposed to defend her sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #2

Let's remember the whole horrific deal took only three minutes. elehhhhna Feb 2018 #90

6 minutes not 3!!! atreides1 Feb 2018 #101

I guess she's going to have to. Straw Man Feb 2018 #128

Hang gun vs assault rifle ? I'm not 100 % blaming him off the top of my head uponit7771 Feb 2018 #3

Me either. CozyMystery Feb 2018 #5

My first thought. nocalflea Feb 2018 #28

Nobody is paid to get killed jberryhill Feb 2018 #34

He was paid to put himself between that gunman and those children. nocalflea Feb 2018 #38

not saying he was a good cop or following the rules, but he's not required to do suicide missions CreekDog Feb 2018 #44

"stand between was figurative. nocalflea Feb 2018 #74

He had more than anyone else did.... FarPoint Feb 2018 #72

So customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #112

What are SRO supposed to do? It's never been clear to me. yardwork Feb 2018 #54

Bust kids for pot. Deal with fights. christx30 Feb 2018 #116

Me either. I imagine a regular cop, seeing that disparity in fire power, would call for assistance Squinch Feb 2018 #52

Well... FarPoint Feb 2018 #71

It was NOT his job to charge an assault rifle with a hand gun. There's a thread on what uponit7771 Feb 2018 #93

I disagree.... FarPoint Feb 2018 #96

Um. Yes it was. Otherwise, why was he there? Straw Man Feb 2018 #132

The softball coach could have whacked the shooter with a bat. lpbk2713 Feb 2018 #4

Yes, and the math teacher could have lobbed a right triangle at him . . . hatrack Feb 2018 #10

And had as much chance as a middle aged cop GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #16

Can we let this be the argument that destroys the 'good guy with a gun' bullshit? Volaris Feb 2018 #48

Totally agree GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #69

Maybe customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #113

So let me get this straight. Straw Man Feb 2018 #125

Pretty much. Volaris Feb 2018 #130

I would draw a different conclusion. Straw Man Feb 2018 #131

Allowing the General Populace access to assault weapons Volaris Feb 2018 #133

Absolution? Straw Man Feb 2018 #134

Not at all, and please allow me to clarify: Volaris Feb 2018 #135

Thanks for the clarification. The misunderstanding was mine. Straw Man Feb 2018 #136

Sorry if it was initially confusing. Volaris Feb 2018 #138

The lunch ladies could have stabbed him in the jugular with a spork! Squinch Feb 2018 #53

I was listening to a radio show where the RW host said the wrestling team should have tackled him... brooklynite Feb 2018 #82

I can't say I blame him. He had a pistol no doubt or a rifle at best...up against an AR 15. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #6

AR 15s are rifles, gejohnston Feb 2018 #25

. Squinch Feb 2018 #55

Ditto to your emoji. cwydro Feb 2018 #85

They're caracatures of themselves at this point. Squinch Feb 2018 #86

Yeah. Let's have SWAT teams roam our schools. Great idea. yardwork Feb 2018 #56

no, every cop in the US and Canada gejohnston Feb 2018 #91

No one outside of the military should own an AR or any assault weapon period. I refuese to live Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #60

I simply made a statement of fact gejohnston Feb 2018 #92

I blame the manufacturers...there is no reason to own an AR 15...I am sick of guns...and I would Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #97

I blame four cowards gejohnston Feb 2018 #111

+10000000 Pachamama Feb 2018 #129

This is what I've been telling my coworker today sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #7

This is why assault rifles should be banned. They scare the shit out of people njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #8

Peterson was scared shitless and froze, which kills the argument for Armed Guards at Schools OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #9

Exactly customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #114

these jobs are dumping grounds for shitty cops to sit around until mopinko Feb 2018 #11

That's probably why he was there. Kaleva Feb 2018 #12

Clearly customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #115

Actually Ive heard students speak well of him lostnfound Feb 2018 #13

He shouldn't have been armed. Kaleva Feb 2018 #15

That kid all his shooting in 6 minutes. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #17

I agree. Kaleva Feb 2018 #19

Cowardly Calculating Feb 2018 #14

Cops do not sign up for and are not expected to charge battle rifles with a pistol GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #18

Then he shouldn't have been fired or forced to resign. Kaleva Feb 2018 #20

Scapegoat. You think the Sheriff would have run in there. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #22

An unarmed security guard guard used his own body to protect kids. Kaleva Feb 2018 #26

He was in the midst of it all when the shooting started GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #33

Where did I ever say I blame him? Kaleva Feb 2018 #36

The sheriff is full of shit. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #39

Tragedy. Straw Man Feb 2018 #124

In fairness, he doesn't know what he'd do. Sometimes the same person ecstatic Feb 2018 #27

I wouldn't know what I'd do in such a situation until it happens if I lacked training. Kaleva Feb 2018 #30

The sheriff sounds like a moran, to me. yardwork Feb 2018 #58

Very unlikely he would have taken down the shooter...and he would have died...he called for backup Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #62

I feel bad for the poor officer. This is why Assault Weapons need to be banned. johnpowdy Feb 2018 #21

He probably would have been Corgigal Feb 2018 #23

My initial reaction--he didn't feel like dying that day ecstatic Feb 2018 #24

You really fucking think he was thinking about the fallout? GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #35

I get that he was outgunned, and I understand his actions. ecstatic Feb 2018 #100

Who knows what he was thinking about. Straw Man Feb 2018 #127

So much for that good guy with a gun plan! Luciferous Feb 2018 #29

So much canfeild123 Feb 2018 #89

After the past couple of years I don't count on that anyway. Luciferous Feb 2018 #94

I agree with many of the comments from 'he was scared' to 'he didn't want to die that day' SharonClark Feb 2018 #31

No, it is not his job. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #37

Actually we do train people for that and it was his job Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #46

No it wasn't. Not when the shooter had an automatic weapon and if any that Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #64

You dont have a clue what your talking about Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #75

It absolutely was Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #108

Yes, it was precisely his job Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #102

Since when does an officer charge in to a live fire situation without backup? bullimiami Feb 2018 #32

Thanks. The narrative is now going to be about blaming this guy GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #40

People need to stop and think. That sheriff, his boss, should be ashamed. bullimiami Feb 2018 #41

No. Unless training down their is drastically different from most other areas DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2018 #73

Exactly right Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #103

Maybe the "narrative" should be MichMary Feb 2018 #87

Thats exactly what you do when your on scene when a shooting starts Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #47

I call BS on that. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #65

Ive trained for this very situation Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #77

He's already been labeled as a Democrat AwakeAtLast Feb 2018 #42

I hope someone is keeping a suicide watch on him. irisblue Feb 2018 #43

I guess the training for Resource Officers Cha Feb 2018 #45

Either he was an absolute coward or this was a training failure Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #49

My brother in law is a cop and he said in that situation calling for backup is what you do. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #66

Then his department is training for failure Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #78

He is a New York City decorated cop...for 9-11...I can assure you...they are trained. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #98

With all due respect to your brother ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #117

And not for the better. But with all due respect...he is not retired. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #122

I never inferred that he was retired. Straw Man Feb 2018 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #104

Some people who enter law enforcement apparently don't give adequate thought to the notion Vinca Feb 2018 #50

Active shooter protocols are to engage the shooter. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #51

Thanks for teh snark directed at me obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #61

Actually that post was backed up by fact Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #80

That post was correct Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #105

I'm probably stupid... FarPoint Feb 2018 #57

Call for Backup HockeyMom Feb 2018 #59

Yes.. immediately call for backup... FarPoint Feb 2018 #70

Calling for backup happens as you move to engage Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #84

The coach who died protecting students didn't sign up knowing HopeAgain Feb 2018 #63

It's difficult... Mike Nelson Feb 2018 #67

So many keyboard warriors stating what the officer should have done tymorial Feb 2018 #68

Yes. Guidelines are generally AS SOON AS 2 or 3 are on scene Hortensis Feb 2018 #76

That guideline is for officers responding from off scene, not ones already there Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #83

Ah, okay. I did check your previous post and just Hortensis Feb 2018 #88

I was a deputy for 11 years and trained for this Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #81

Thank you for posting. Shemp Howard Feb 2018 #95

It would have been suicide...I don't blame the cop...too many people watching cop shows on TV Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #99

Some of us have been there, or still are Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #110

I was referring to the general response not anyone in particular. tymorial Feb 2018 #120

Yeah, how dare they ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #119

maybe he didn't receive his bonus on time? spanone Feb 2018 #79

MAYBE HE HAD BONE SPURS GaYellowDawg Feb 2018 #106

Police are taught to engage......... Takket Feb 2018 #107

And maybe it's a good example of why a good guy with a gun... Liberal In Texas Feb 2018 #109

For those that want to know DVRacer Feb 2018 #118

This is a distraction, designed to make us forget we want to ban treestar Feb 2018 #121

This whole conversation pisses me off. It's a pile on. It's scapegoating. rainin Feb 2018 #126

After this clusterfuck, we need somebody to scapegoat! struggle4progress Feb 2018 #137