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We can't impose our will or our lifestyle on the rest of the world either. Kurmudgeon Dec 2011 #1
I've no desire to impose anything on any country. Zalatix Dec 2011 #3
Thats just BS to appease the masses FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #2
Comments like that are likely to ENRAGE the masses, drive them to action. Zalatix Dec 2011 #4
Truth Hurts FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #5
No, I don't mean comments like yours, I mean comments like the one I am referring to Zalatix Dec 2011 #7
Surprise ! - Not all posters on DU are Americans FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #8
Hmmmm, really now? Perhaps therein lies the problem Zalatix Dec 2011 #9
We have Canadians here telling us America needs Free Trade FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #11
Yes I've met the type Zalatix Dec 2011 #13
Can you point me towards one of those posts? polly7 Dec 2011 #20
That would be against DU rules against "Singleing out a Poster" FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #25
ah, I see how that works. ;) polly7 Dec 2011 #40
We do it because the corporations that determine US policy mmonk Dec 2011 #6
That's really the only reason. Quantess Dec 2011 #42
I've been thinking about the opposite side of this question Tsiyu Dec 2011 #10
Indeed Zalatix Dec 2011 #12
Actually, it can work fine when they aren't poor. dawg Dec 2011 #15
Comparative Advantage doesn't work. Zalatix Dec 2011 #21
But you're comparing apples to oranges. dawg Dec 2011 #26
Poor or not, if you control manufacturing, you eventually control R&D. Zalatix Dec 2011 #28
Yes, for the product you manufacture. dawg Dec 2011 #34
Well, we are far more productive, this much is true. Zalatix Dec 2011 #35
The productivity and efficiency of the American worker ... dawg Dec 2011 #36
There are tariffs. Zalatix Dec 2011 #37
traditionally tariffs were for raising revenue for the federal government Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #49
I'm generally opposed to tariffs, but ... dawg Dec 2011 #56
The problem is there are two parallel yet unharmonized trade agendas Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #60
That is enlightening. dawg Jan 2012 #98
Smoot Hawley did nothing of the sort. Plus, embargoes on US exports are useless now. Zalatix Dec 2011 #57
So many fallacies in such a short post Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #59
You're still pushing more fairy tales. Here are the documented facts. Zalatix Dec 2011 #61
I don't think there is any economic issue LESS in dispute Smoot-Hawley Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #66
You seem to want to defend Americans losing jobs. We don't have anything to lose by losing exports. Zalatix Dec 2011 #67
If you want to advocate fighting a 17th Century trade war, go for it. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #70
The US heavy industry won't collapse if we hire Americans to build for the American market. Zalatix Dec 2011 #71
I'm not opposed to tariffs, I am opposed to punitive tariffs. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #76
More facts debunking the Smoot Hawley myth Zalatix Dec 2011 #68
Naturally imports dropped, that is what punitive tariffs do Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #73
Imports dropped far more than exports. Zalatix Dec 2011 #74
So it was all the depression huh? The massive retaliatory trade barriers were just a coincidence? Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #82
Trade deficits devalue the dollar naturally. Zalatix Dec 2011 #85
Oh and let me add... to hell with the WTO. Zalatix Dec 2011 #89
So if I follow you... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #90
Why do you keep spouting these uninformed opinions? You have no documentation to back them up. Zalatix Dec 2011 #93
Looking at the calendar... today is Sunday December 31st 2011 Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #94
US = Low productivity? Just another of the major errors in your argument Zalatix Dec 2011 #95
High US labor productivity is a modern phenomenon Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #96
High US labor productivity is NOT merely a modern phenomenon - where do you get these fantasies from Zalatix Dec 2011 #97
"we must fight against the race-to-the-bottom free traders who would have our workers... LooseWilly Dec 2011 #53
I mostly mean the policy makers. dawg Dec 2011 #55
Indeed. The US trades more with the EU than with China despite China having 3 times the population. pampango Dec 2011 #91
What will China and Europe do when America becomes too poor to buy their stuff? Zalatix Jan 2012 #101
Once every American family has a decent standard of living, we can consider this. dawg Dec 2011 #14
Offshoring is a way corporations make sure everyone is in poverty lunatica Dec 2011 #16
All the interconnectivity that's occurred during the past 50 years... randome Dec 2011 #17
"resulted in better standards of living" -- not here in the US, though. DECLINING wages, standards Romulox Dec 2011 #19
America has problems. No disputing that. randome Dec 2011 #23
That's an after-the-fact justification whipped up by the plutocrats; the EXPLOITATION came first, Romulox Dec 2011 #27
Hard to afford smart phones on ZERO DOLLARS an hour. Zalatix Dec 2011 #31
Less war, more revolutions. Zalatix Dec 2011 #22
Most of the revolutions today come from a desire for democracy. randome Dec 2011 #24
And what do you call those riots in Democratic Europe? Zalatix Dec 2011 #29
I'd call them not on the same scale as the Arab Spring and other riots. randome Dec 2011 #32
It hasn't gotten to that point yet but when it pops... Zalatix Dec 2011 #33
Those standards of living will go down drastically with the rapid overuse of resources. antigone382 Dec 2011 #43
Offshoring currently moves manufacturing toward pollution-heavy countries. Zalatix Dec 2011 #45
"Free trade" with Korea was the latest neolib betrayal. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #18
Good question. Thoughts... PETRUS Dec 2011 #30
Resembles the questions over whether or not there should be progressive taxation, social wiggs Dec 2011 #38
Your case is nowhere near as strong as you imagine muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #39
And you are saying "America needs to become poorer" - your case is not strong at all. Zalatix Dec 2011 #41
Off-shoring doesn't really help the poor in other third world countries - it helps the corporations. haele Dec 2011 #44
Post-War prosperity was built on having bombed nearly every other industrialized nation to dust. Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #46
Britain was not 'bombed to rubble' RZM Dec 2011 #47
In 1940-1941 England was flattened! Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #51
No it wasn't RZM Dec 2011 #52
The Luftwaffe wanted to destroy the RAF et-al and aircraft factories Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2011 #54
The Luftwaffle wanted to, but they failed. Zalatix Dec 2011 #58
as long as US prosperity is not built on killing & ripping off other countries & nations; marasinghe Dec 2011 #48
Nope juajen Dec 2011 #50
Good question Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #62
And cheap foreign labor is not cheap. Zalatix Dec 2011 #64
Right Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #65
How "cheap" is it really? high density Dec 2011 #79
Outrageously false dichotomy. NAFTA, for example, screwed both sides of the border. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Dec 2011 #81
And to think, America would be even worse than that without welfare. Zalatix Dec 2011 #86
Better Lives for Mexicans Cut Allure of Going North pampango Dec 2011 #92
Will the Mexicans let us go there for jobs? Zalatix Jan 2012 #100
Offshoring Mission Accomplished Octafish Dec 2011 #69
It's just another way to transfer more weath upward high density Dec 2011 #72
Maybe we can force them to pack up and leave, totally Zalatix Dec 2011 #75
There needs to be a collective change in the way companies think high density Dec 2011 #80
"a family that cares about its own" grantcart Dec 2011 #77
Where's my Global Citizenship ID card? Can I move to China for a job with this ID card? Zalatix Dec 2011 #78
Apparently you cannot. grantcart Dec 2011 #87
Find someone else to sell your One World Government ideas to. I'm flippant and proud of it. Zalatix Dec 2011 #88
I see you didn't have an answer to the offshore pollution problem, eh? Zalatix Jan 2012 #102
What? unlawflcombatnt Jan 2012 #103
Let's talk about the real issue - globalists becoming vastly rich TBF Dec 2011 #83
should Americans take a good hard look at their options and their impacts on the global economy? getdown Dec 2011 #84
Had the corporations and government agencies had good intentions when they went into these jwirr Jan 2012 #99
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