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uponit7771

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16. I'm referring to the devices design not its efficacy on a battle field. Seeing...

Reply to linuxman (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 15, 2018, 02:41 AM

Feb 2018

... said device was used in a high school my point about keeping it out of the hands of Joe Blow citizens is amplified by your use of the battlefield setting.

High schools in the US aren't war fronts.

Also, on the battle field, there are ways to minimize the effects of all the weapons of war including the weapon the device the young man used today.

But

That doesn't make them ... ALL ... less of a WMD because their highest level of effectiveness can be minimized in a setting.

Its STILL a WMD because of what it was designed for and what it was modeled after.

Naw man, you can't call a grenade a firecracker because it wasn't used in a battle setting and it COULD be used to make big blast sounds ... its still a device designed to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

The grenade and the murder weapon used today were all designed to do just that very thing; kill a lot of humans in a short amount of time.

This sounds like a position resting on systematics vs substance of what the devise was design for and what it was modeled after.

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ATTENTION: Any Device designed ... SPECIFICALLY... to kill massive amounts of humans is a WMD !!! [View all] uponit7771 Feb 2018 OP

Gun free zones are always in the buildings that politicians sit in to pass laws allowing guns Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #1

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #2

but...it's not the rifle, it's capacity! I NEED THEM FOR COYOTES! Skittles Feb 2018 #3

+1, I've heard all their excuses but this one stops them dead in their tracks. They ... KNOW ... the uponit7771 Feb 2018 #4

It is the capacity that's the problem NickB79 Feb 2018 #21

The counter argument would be that guns aren't designed soley to kill large number of people mythology Feb 2018 #5

True, the device the young man had ... IS... designed SPECIFICALLY to kill massive amounts of humans uponit7771 Feb 2018 #6

It'd be on you to prove they were designed for that express purpose then, right? linuxman Feb 2018 #7

No, even Gumpers understand the device the young man used is modeled after a device used to kill ... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #8

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. linuxman Feb 2018 #9

Facts aren't bad, normalizing WMD use by general public is though uponit7771 Feb 2018 #10

Well you certainly feel free to create your own "facts" linuxman Feb 2018 #11

Fact not in dispute, the device the young man used today was modeled after and designed to kill ... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #12

No, your assertion that the rifle it was modeled after linuxman Feb 2018 #13

So your position is the device is NOT designed to kill massive amounts of people... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #14

Yep. But just not due to that. linuxman Feb 2018 #15

I'm referring to the devices design not its efficacy on a battle field. Seeing... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #16

Way to miss the entire point. linuxman Feb 2018 #17

So does context, in a non battlefield setting that device is a WMD. On the battle field ... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #18

WOW!!! Did you see this? Squinch Feb 2018 #19

I just heard a veteran of war talking about the purpose of assault rifles: Vinca Feb 2018 #20