November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement... (Reply #60)

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Mon Feb 12, 2018, 09:29 PM

60. November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement...

One of the points that those wanting him to resign pushed was that he was sure to be replaced by a Democrat, and so he was. However, she has to stand for election nine months from now -- and it looks like Tim Pawlenty, still quite popular in Minnesota, is gearing up to run for the Republican nomination. It would be the greatest of ironies (worthy of something Franken might have dreamed up in one of his skits or books) if we are on track to run the table (which is what it will require) and recapture the Senate...when an upset victory for Pawlenty in Minnesota shifts the balance back to 50-50, with Pence able to cast the deciding vote on everything for the next two years.

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Ok, I'm not sure where I come down on the Gillibrand vs. Franken thing. [View all]	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	OP
I still stand with Al	hueymahl	Feb 2018	#1
Still disappointed in Tammy Baldwin	dragonlady	Feb 2018	#3
Yeah, she couldn't wait to throw him under the bus	milestogo	Feb 2018	#43
Let's be fair. Franken could have refused to resign and fought on...he chose not to. I for one don't	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#81
Lots wrong here.	Jakes Progress	Feb 2018	#90
Franken was a Senator so it is not the same as if it was Pres. Obama. While he was a	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#91
So any senator is as good as any other?	Jakes Progress	Feb 2018	#103
In order to get a majority...we need warm bodies...any Democratic Senator will suffice.	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#106
Use a calendar.	Jakes Progress	Feb 2018	#107
It dampens the vote...Gillibrand is one person...she is not my senator nor yours if I remember	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#110
You certainly have an agenda.	Jakes Progress	Feb 2018	#111
I have read the threads...I don't understand your point...Franken is gone nothing you do or say will	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#112
How saintly of you. Thanks for telling DU how important it is to vote Democratic.	Jakes Progress	Feb 2018	#113
Noted. As for Ken's OP, I feel sure his answer lies in posting	Hortensis	Feb 2018	#78
Pulling for Karla!	hueymahl	Feb 2018	#84
Yes, she really sounds like one of the good people we want to keep	Hortensis	Feb 2018	#85
Glad that she won, but any Dem could have won there with a strong campaign.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#109
I stand with Al.	NurseJackie	Feb 2018	#2
I Stand With You Standing With Al	Me.	Feb 2018	#11
I am convinced she is not presidential material. nt	tblue37	Feb 2018	#15
Sen Gillibrand panicked and threw Sen Franken	TheDebbieDee	Feb 2018	#31
My prediction: If she decides to run in 2020, she'll be that year's	RandomAccess	Feb 2018	#42
My suspicion is that she'll run as the "#MeToo candidate"...	regnaD kciN	Feb 2018	#55
Don't forget that Conyers was also tossed out with that week's scraps.	ucrdem	Feb 2018	#64
The allegations against Conyers were far more credible, more like	RandomAccess	Feb 2018	#65
No prob, not arguing, but the fact is that staffers are different from constituents	ucrdem	Feb 2018	#68
I stand with Al.	Raster	Feb 2018	#4
very cynical.	barbtries	Feb 2018	#19
I was going on what she said on 60 Minutes	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#25
That's simply grotesque	RandomAccess	Feb 2018	#44
Agreed.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#46
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2018	#48
K&R. I agree. "her right to speak out"...I've never heard such blatant, self-serving bullshit...	brush	Feb 2018	#59
So do I though it may be a futile stand in terms of him returning to running for office	Jarqui	Feb 2018	#101
Look at Al's first accuser, that was nothing but a right-wing	doc03	Feb 2018	#5
I stand with Al	happy feet	Feb 2018	#8
I don't recall Franken putting duct tape on her mouth	dalton99a	Feb 2018	#6
I don't either.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#26
I'm not conflicted one bit.	sdfernando	Feb 2018	#7
+1000	OnDoutside	Feb 2018	#10
That's it. NT	enough	Feb 2018	#53
Senator Franken was forced out of office by his Democratic colleagues....	spanone	Feb 2018	#9
Still with Al.	Guilded Lilly	Feb 2018	#12
Me me me me me me me	leftstreet	Feb 2018	#13
Yes, that's what she seems to have been about.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#27
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2018	#14
Wow, tacky, self delete. nt	USALiberal	Feb 2018	#20
Wow	flamingdem	Feb 2018	#32
for a yr after trump became prez she was silent on his alleged behaviors (based on a google search)	msongs	Feb 2018	#16
She had ONE motive, make a name for herself! nt	USALiberal	Feb 2018	#17
Gillibrand is the Democratic Dan Quayle.	Gidney N Cloyd	Feb 2018	#18
I wa unhappy with Gillibrand and others who were involved but it is over. Time to move on. We can't	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#21
Thank you!	CTyankee	Feb 2018	#22
Wasn't meaning to pick at a scab and largely agree with you.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#24
I am fine with it. It is what it is. I liked Franken and miss him...but he is one guy. We have	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#79
This sort of reaction is everything the GOP hoped for.	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#73
OK. That seems prudent.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#23
I agree about the presidency. I wouldn't vote for her in a primary. But in a general I would	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#92
Agree, unless she wants to keep milking it, which it seems she does. NT	enough	Feb 2018	#54
To be fair, she is asked about it constantly. I think she should change the subject but she is	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#75
Yes, we'll just take up fucking knitting	MrsMatt	Feb 2018	#104
And what is the purpose of 'never forgetting' It is a waste of time and energy. Let's focus on	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#105
All I will say is I stand with Al and for the truth, not railroading for personal gain.	lark	Feb 2018	#28
I stand with the Honorable Senator Al Franken.	sinkingfeeling	Feb 2018	#29
I imagine there was some behind the scenes talk and expectations that the Franken thing would never	bettyellen	Feb 2018	#30
She's clearly a piece of work.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#35
Ill admit to clear Al Franken bias but its because I think he is such a great communicator and has	bettyellen	Feb 2018	#38
True.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#63
The me too thing is causing lots of arguements among women as well- as to	bettyellen	Feb 2018	#66
I am upset with some of the me too stuff...as a person who was violently attacked...	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#93
Okay- grabbing you is assault. But not as bad as assault from coworkers or bosses- that disrupt your	bettyellen	Feb 2018	#94
Grabbing a person's butt is not assault and unless you are a minority...you will never be prosecuted	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#98
Actually I think it is battery- which is a crime. And yes, its hard to prosecute one instance of it	bettyellen	Feb 2018	#100
She is way ahead of herself	msdogi	Feb 2018	#33
After tRump made his tweet about due process,	panader0	Feb 2018	#34
Her immediate reaction ...	NanceGreggs	Feb 2018	#36
Ambitions she has probably destroyed now, as it happened.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#37
And that's the great irony.	NanceGreggs	Feb 2018	#40
I doubt it...	regnaD kciN	Feb 2018	#58
We dont know who the victims are	Nevernose	Feb 2018	#39
Well said!	NanceGreggs	Feb 2018	#45
You're leaving out Hannity. It's big mistake IMHO to do so.	ProudLib72	Feb 2018	#49
You forgot...	Mandos the Judge	Feb 2018	#82
Gillibrand.	writerJT	Feb 2018	#41
Say what you want,,..	LakeArenal	Feb 2018	#47
Maybe you did miss it.	writerJT	Feb 2018	#51
so the lesson then is	Egnever	Feb 2018	#88
Ok, we know that Gillibrand is only in it for Gillibrand	ProudLib72	Feb 2018	#50
It's exceptionally challenging to primary anyone in New York.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#62
So what do we do then?	ProudLib72	Feb 2018	#69
I'd focus on making sure she doesn't get nominated if she runs in '20.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#71
Agree. Let her stay in the Senate, but	Jakes Progress	Feb 2018	#108
Don't vote for her in 2020 Presidential primary -- if she runs (which looks more and more	KPN	Feb 2018	#83
Some people think #BelieveAllWomen means accusers need to be taken seriously and not brushed-off...	regnaD kciN	Feb 2018	#52
Can you try explaining your conundrum again?	BootinUp	Feb 2018	#56
I was torn between wondering if AL was getting a fair shake about all of this...	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#67
I think that Franken got a raw deal...I do. But what can we do about it...as for believing the	Demsrule86	Feb 2018	#95
I agree that we need to move on.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#97
She also said ...	left-of-center2012	Feb 2018	#57
November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement...	regnaD kciN	Feb 2018	#60
At this point	PDittie	Feb 2018	#61
the thought is that she may one day run for president	Skittles	Feb 2018	#72
When you throw your best under the bus to advantage your own political career, what is next?	democratisphere	Feb 2018	#70
There was enough foolishness to go around.	NCTraveler	Feb 2018	#74
This message was self-deleted by its author	HopeAgain	Feb 2018	#76
Notice To Republicans Wanting To Sabotage Democrats:	ollie10	Feb 2018	#77
...	LexVegas	Feb 2018	#80
At some point Gillibrand may realize	Danascot	Feb 2018	#86
It was purely a political move to make it go away as an issue for Democrats	alarimer	Feb 2018	#87
As long as she stays in New York I don't care.	jalan48	Feb 2018	#89
gillebrand can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned....will NEVER vote for her	Rene	Feb 2018	#96
I have no conflict. Consider ..	ananda	Feb 2018	#99
I get a strong	JNelson6563	Feb 2018	#102

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