November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement... (Reply #60)

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Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:29 PM

60. November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement...

One of the points that those wanting him to resign pushed was that he was sure to be replaced by a Democrat, and so he was. However, she has to stand for election nine months from now -- and it looks like Tim Pawlenty, still quite popular in Minnesota, is gearing up to run for the Republican nomination. It would be the greatest of ironies (worthy of something Franken might have dreamed up in one of his skits or books) if we are on track to run the table (which is what it will require) and recapture the Senate...when an upset victory for Pawlenty in Minnesota shifts the balance back to 50-50, with Pence able to cast the deciding vote on everything for the next two years.

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Ok, I'm not sure where I come down on the Gillibrand vs. Franken thing. [View all]	Ken Burch	Feb 12	OP
I still stand with Al	hueymahl	Feb 12	#1
Still disappointed in Tammy Baldwin	dragonlady	Feb 12	#3
Yeah, she couldn't wait to throw him under the bus	milestogo	Feb 12	#43
Let's be fair. Franken could have refused to resign and fought on...he chose not to. I for one don't	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#81
Lots wrong here.	Jakes Progress	Feb 13	#90
Franken was a Senator so it is not the same as if it was Pres. Obama. While he was a	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#91
So any senator is as good as any other?	Jakes Progress	Feb 13	#103
In order to get a majority...we need warm bodies...any Democratic Senator will suffice.	Demsrule86	Feb 14	#106
Use a calendar.	Jakes Progress	Feb 14	#107
It dampens the vote...Gillibrand is one person...she is not my senator nor yours if I remember	Demsrule86	Feb 14	#110
You certainly have an agenda.	Jakes Progress	Feb 16	#111
I have read the threads...I don't understand your point...Franken is gone nothing you do or say will	Demsrule86	Feb 16	#112
How saintly of you. Thanks for telling DU how important it is to vote Democratic.	Jakes Progress	Feb 17	#113
Noted. As for Ken's OP, I feel sure his answer lies in posting	Hortensis	Feb 13	#78
Pulling for Karla!	hueymahl	Feb 13	#84
Yes, she really sounds like one of the good people we want to keep	Hortensis	Feb 13	#85
Glad that she won, but any Dem could have won there with a strong campaign.	Ken Burch	Feb 14	#109
I stand with Al.	NurseJackie	Feb 12	#2
I Stand With You Standing With Al	Me.	Feb 12	#11
I am convinced she is not presidential material. nt	tblue37	Feb 12	#15
Sen Gillibrand panicked and threw Sen Franken	TheDebbieDee	Feb 12	#31
My prediction: If she decides to run in 2020, she'll be that year's	RandomAccess	Feb 12	#42
My suspicion is that she'll run as the "#MeToo candidate"...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#55
Don't forget that Conyers was also tossed out with that week's scraps.	ucrdem	Feb 12	#64
The allegations against Conyers were far more credible, more like	RandomAccess	Feb 12	#65
No prob, not arguing, but the fact is that staffers are different from constituents	ucrdem	Feb 12	#68
I stand with Al.	Raster	Feb 12	#4
very cynical.	barbtries	Feb 12	#19
I was going on what she said on 60 Minutes	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#25
That's simply grotesque	RandomAccess	Feb 12	#44
Agreed.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#46
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K&R. I agree. "her right to speak out"...I've never heard such blatant, self-serving bullshit...	brush	Feb 12	#59
So do I though it may be a futile stand in terms of him returning to running for office	Jarqui	Feb 13	#101
Look at Al's first accuser, that was nothing but a right-wing	doc03	Feb 12	#5
I stand with Al	happy feet	Feb 12	#8
I don't recall Franken putting duct tape on her mouth	dalton99a	Feb 12	#6
I don't either.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#26
I'm not conflicted one bit.	sdfernando	Feb 12	#7
+1000	OnDoutside	Feb 12	#10
That's it. NT	enough	Feb 12	#53
Senator Franken was forced out of office by his Democratic colleagues....	spanone	Feb 12	#9
Still with Al.	Guilded Lilly	Feb 12	#12
Me me me me me me me	leftstreet	Feb 12	#13
Yes, that's what she seems to have been about.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#27
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Wow, tacky, self delete. nt	USALiberal	Feb 12	#20
Wow	flamingdem	Feb 12	#32
for a yr after trump became prez she was silent on his alleged behaviors (based on a google search)	msongs	Feb 12	#16
She had ONE motive, make a name for herself! nt	USALiberal	Feb 12	#17
Gillibrand is the Democratic Dan Quayle.	Gidney N Cloyd	Feb 12	#18
I wa unhappy with Gillibrand and others who were involved but it is over. Time to move on. We can't	Demsrule86	Feb 12	#21
Thank you!	CTyankee	Feb 12	#22
Wasn't meaning to pick at a scab and largely agree with you.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#24
I am fine with it. It is what it is. I liked Franken and miss him...but he is one guy. We have	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#79
This sort of reaction is everything the GOP hoped for.	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#73
OK. That seems prudent.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#23
I agree about the presidency. I wouldn't vote for her in a primary. But in a general I would	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#92
Agree, unless she wants to keep milking it, which it seems she does. NT	enough	Feb 12	#54
To be fair, she is asked about it constantly. I think she should change the subject but she is	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#75
Yes, we'll just take up fucking knitting	MrsMatt	Feb 14	#104
And what is the purpose of 'never forgetting' It is a waste of time and energy. Let's focus on	Demsrule86	Feb 14	#105
All I will say is I stand with Al and for the truth, not railroading for personal gain.	lark	Feb 12	#28
I stand with the Honorable Senator Al Franken.	sinkingfeeling	Feb 12	#29
I imagine there was some behind the scenes talk and expectations that the Franken thing would never	bettyellen	Feb 12	#30
She's clearly a piece of work.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#35
Ill admit to clear Al Franken bias but its because I think he is such a great communicator and has	bettyellen	Feb 12	#38
True.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#63
The me too thing is causing lots of arguements among women as well- as to	bettyellen	Feb 12	#66
I am upset with some of the me too stuff...as a person who was violently attacked...	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#93
Okay- grabbing you is assault. But not as bad as assault from coworkers or bosses- that disrupt your	bettyellen	Feb 13	#94
Grabbing a person's butt is not assault and unless you are a minority...you will never be prosecuted	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#98
Actually I think it is battery- which is a crime. And yes, its hard to prosecute one instance of it	bettyellen	Feb 13	#100
She is way ahead of herself	msdogi	Feb 12	#33
After tRump made his tweet about due process,	panader0	Feb 12	#34
Her immediate reaction ...	NanceGreggs	Feb 12	#36
Ambitions she has probably destroyed now, as it happened.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#37
And that's the great irony.	NanceGreggs	Feb 12	#40
I doubt it...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#58
We dont know who the victims are	Nevernose	Feb 12	#39
Well said!	NanceGreggs	Feb 12	#45
You're leaving out Hannity. It's big mistake IMHO to do so.	ProudLib72	Feb 12	#49
You forgot...	Mandos the Judge	Feb 13	#82
Gillibrand.	writerJT	Feb 12	#41
Say what you want,,..	LakeArenal	Feb 12	#47
Maybe you did miss it.	writerJT	Feb 12	#51
so the lesson then is	Egnever	Feb 13	#88
Ok, we know that Gillibrand is only in it for Gillibrand	ProudLib72	Feb 12	#50
It's exceptionally challenging to primary anyone in New York.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#62
So what do we do then?	ProudLib72	Feb 12	#69
I'd focus on making sure she doesn't get nominated if she runs in '20.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#71
Agree. Let her stay in the Senate, but	Jakes Progress	Feb 14	#108
Don't vote for her in 2020 Presidential primary -- if she runs (which looks more and more	KPN	Feb 13	#83
Some people think #BelieveAllWomen means accusers need to be taken seriously and not brushed-off...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#52
Can you try explaining your conundrum again?	BootinUp	Feb 12	#56
I was torn between wondering if AL was getting a fair shake about all of this...	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#67
I think that Franken got a raw deal...I do. But what can we do about it...as for believing the	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#95
I agree that we need to move on.	Ken Burch	Feb 13	#97
She also said ...	left-of-center2012	Feb 12	#57
November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#60
At this point	PDittie	Feb 12	#61
the thought is that she may one day run for president	Skittles	Feb 13	#72
When you throw your best under the bus to advantage your own political career, what is next?	democratisphere	Feb 12	#70
There was enough foolishness to go around.	NCTraveler	Feb 13	#74
This message was self-deleted by its author	HopeAgain	Feb 13	#76
Notice To Republicans Wanting To Sabotage Democrats:	ollie10	Feb 13	#77
...	LexVegas	Feb 13	#80
At some point Gillibrand may realize	Danascot	Feb 13	#86
It was purely a political move to make it go away as an issue for Democrats	alarimer	Feb 13	#87
As long as she stays in New York I don't care.	jalan48	Feb 13	#89
gillebrand can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned....will NEVER vote for her	Rene	Feb 13	#96
I have no conflict. Consider ..	ananda	Feb 13	#99
I get a strong	JNelson6563	Feb 13	#102

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