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Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:20 PM

58. I doubt it...

She may have lost a lot of support here on DU, but I'm sure that's more than compensated for by those who see her as a champion of the #BelieveAllWomen movement.

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Ok, I'm not sure where I come down on the Gillibrand vs. Franken thing. [View all]	Ken Burch	Feb 12	OP
I still stand with Al	hueymahl	Feb 12	#1
Still disappointed in Tammy Baldwin	dragonlady	Feb 12	#3
Yeah, she couldn't wait to throw him under the bus	milestogo	Feb 12	#43
Let's be fair. Franken could have refused to resign and fought on...he chose not to. I for one don't	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#81
Lots wrong here.	Jakes Progress	Feb 13	#90
Franken was a Senator so it is not the same as if it was Pres. Obama. While he was a	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#91
So any senator is as good as any other?	Jakes Progress	Feb 13	#103
In order to get a majority...we need warm bodies...any Democratic Senator will suffice.	Demsrule86	Feb 14	#106
Use a calendar.	Jakes Progress	Feb 14	#107
It dampens the vote...Gillibrand is one person...she is not my senator nor yours if I remember	Demsrule86	Feb 14	#110
You certainly have an agenda.	Jakes Progress	Feb 16	#111
I have read the threads...I don't understand your point...Franken is gone nothing you do or say will	Demsrule86	Feb 16	#112
How saintly of you. Thanks for telling DU how important it is to vote Democratic.	Jakes Progress	Feb 17	#113
Noted. As for Ken's OP, I feel sure his answer lies in posting	Hortensis	Feb 13	#78
Pulling for Karla!	hueymahl	Feb 13	#84
Yes, she really sounds like one of the good people we want to keep	Hortensis	Feb 13	#85
Glad that she won, but any Dem could have won there with a strong campaign.	Ken Burch	Feb 14	#109
I stand with Al.	NurseJackie	Feb 12	#2
I Stand With You Standing With Al	Me.	Feb 12	#11
I am convinced she is not presidential material. nt	tblue37	Feb 12	#15
Sen Gillibrand panicked and threw Sen Franken	TheDebbieDee	Feb 12	#31
My prediction: If she decides to run in 2020, she'll be that year's	RandomAccess	Feb 12	#42
My suspicion is that she'll run as the "#MeToo candidate"...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#55
Don't forget that Conyers was also tossed out with that week's scraps.	ucrdem	Feb 12	#64
The allegations against Conyers were far more credible, more like	RandomAccess	Feb 12	#65
No prob, not arguing, but the fact is that staffers are different from constituents	ucrdem	Feb 12	#68
I stand with Al.	Raster	Feb 12	#4
very cynical.	barbtries	Feb 12	#19
I was going on what she said on 60 Minutes	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#25
That's simply grotesque	RandomAccess	Feb 12	#44
Agreed.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#46
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K&R. I agree. "her right to speak out"...I've never heard such blatant, self-serving bullshit...	brush	Feb 12	#59
So do I though it may be a futile stand in terms of him returning to running for office	Jarqui	Feb 13	#101
Look at Al's first accuser, that was nothing but a right-wing	doc03	Feb 12	#5
I stand with Al	happy feet	Feb 12	#8
I don't recall Franken putting duct tape on her mouth	dalton99a	Feb 12	#6
I don't either.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#26
I'm not conflicted one bit.	sdfernando	Feb 12	#7
+1000	OnDoutside	Feb 12	#10
That's it. NT	enough	Feb 12	#53
Senator Franken was forced out of office by his Democratic colleagues....	spanone	Feb 12	#9
Still with Al.	Guilded Lilly	Feb 12	#12
Me me me me me me me	leftstreet	Feb 12	#13
Yes, that's what she seems to have been about.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#27
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Wow, tacky, self delete. nt	USALiberal	Feb 12	#20
Wow	flamingdem	Feb 12	#32
for a yr after trump became prez she was silent on his alleged behaviors (based on a google search)	msongs	Feb 12	#16
She had ONE motive, make a name for herself! nt	USALiberal	Feb 12	#17
Gillibrand is the Democratic Dan Quayle.	Gidney N Cloyd	Feb 12	#18
I wa unhappy with Gillibrand and others who were involved but it is over. Time to move on. We can't	Demsrule86	Feb 12	#21
Thank you!	CTyankee	Feb 12	#22
Wasn't meaning to pick at a scab and largely agree with you.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#24
I am fine with it. It is what it is. I liked Franken and miss him...but he is one guy. We have	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#79
This sort of reaction is everything the GOP hoped for.	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#73
OK. That seems prudent.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#23
I agree about the presidency. I wouldn't vote for her in a primary. But in a general I would	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#92
Agree, unless she wants to keep milking it, which it seems she does. NT	enough	Feb 12	#54
To be fair, she is asked about it constantly. I think she should change the subject but she is	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#75
Yes, we'll just take up fucking knitting	MrsMatt	Feb 14	#104
And what is the purpose of 'never forgetting' It is a waste of time and energy. Let's focus on	Demsrule86	Feb 14	#105
All I will say is I stand with Al and for the truth, not railroading for personal gain.	lark	Feb 12	#28
I stand with the Honorable Senator Al Franken.	sinkingfeeling	Feb 12	#29
I imagine there was some behind the scenes talk and expectations that the Franken thing would never	bettyellen	Feb 12	#30
She's clearly a piece of work.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#35
Ill admit to clear Al Franken bias but its because I think he is such a great communicator and has	bettyellen	Feb 12	#38
True.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#63
The me too thing is causing lots of arguements among women as well- as to	bettyellen	Feb 12	#66
I am upset with some of the me too stuff...as a person who was violently attacked...	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#93
Okay- grabbing you is assault. But not as bad as assault from coworkers or bosses- that disrupt your	bettyellen	Feb 13	#94
Grabbing a person's butt is not assault and unless you are a minority...you will never be prosecuted	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#98
Actually I think it is battery- which is a crime. And yes, its hard to prosecute one instance of it	bettyellen	Feb 13	#100
She is way ahead of herself	msdogi	Feb 12	#33
After tRump made his tweet about due process,	panader0	Feb 12	#34
Her immediate reaction ...	NanceGreggs	Feb 12	#36
Ambitions she has probably destroyed now, as it happened.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#37
And that's the great irony.	NanceGreggs	Feb 12	#40
I doubt it...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#58
We dont know who the victims are	Nevernose	Feb 12	#39
Well said!	NanceGreggs	Feb 12	#45
You're leaving out Hannity. It's big mistake IMHO to do so.	ProudLib72	Feb 12	#49
You forgot...	Mandos the Judge	Feb 13	#82
Gillibrand.	writerJT	Feb 12	#41
Say what you want,,..	LakeArenal	Feb 12	#47
Maybe you did miss it.	writerJT	Feb 12	#51
so the lesson then is	Egnever	Feb 13	#88
Ok, we know that Gillibrand is only in it for Gillibrand	ProudLib72	Feb 12	#50
It's exceptionally challenging to primary anyone in New York.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#62
So what do we do then?	ProudLib72	Feb 12	#69
I'd focus on making sure she doesn't get nominated if she runs in '20.	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#71
Agree. Let her stay in the Senate, but	Jakes Progress	Feb 14	#108
Don't vote for her in 2020 Presidential primary -- if she runs (which looks more and more	KPN	Feb 13	#83
Some people think #BelieveAllWomen means accusers need to be taken seriously and not brushed-off...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#52
Can you try explaining your conundrum again?	BootinUp	Feb 12	#56
I was torn between wondering if AL was getting a fair shake about all of this...	Ken Burch	Feb 12	#67
I think that Franken got a raw deal...I do. But what can we do about it...as for believing the	Demsrule86	Feb 13	#95
I agree that we need to move on.	Ken Burch	Feb 13	#97
She also said ...	left-of-center2012	Feb 12	#57
November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement...	regnaD kciN	Feb 12	#60
At this point	PDittie	Feb 12	#61
the thought is that she may one day run for president	Skittles	Feb 13	#72
When you throw your best under the bus to advantage your own political career, what is next?	democratisphere	Feb 12	#70
There was enough foolishness to go around.	NCTraveler	Feb 13	#74
This message was self-deleted by its author	HopeAgain	Feb 13	#76
Notice To Republicans Wanting To Sabotage Democrats:	ollie10	Feb 13	#77
...	LexVegas	Feb 13	#80
At some point Gillibrand may realize	Danascot	Feb 13	#86
It was purely a political move to make it go away as an issue for Democrats	alarimer	Feb 13	#87
As long as she stays in New York I don't care.	jalan48	Feb 13	#89
gillebrand can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned....will NEVER vote for her	Rene	Feb 13	#96
I have no conflict. Consider ..	ananda	Feb 13	#99
I get a strong	JNelson6563	Feb 13	#102

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