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40. That's when we turned off the TV

Reply to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:56 PM

Feb 2018

It is not just the way she went after Franken without whom Sessions would not have recused himself.

It is not that she is resurrecting Bill Clinton, who gave us a period of surplus between three Republican administrations with ballooned deficits.

It is that, when it comes down to it, she is a one dimension politician.

Besides assault on women - what else is on her agenda?

And when talking about assaulting women - is she talking only about wealthy Hollywood celebrities? What about the women working at a minimum wage in the factories, in fast food chains who cannot afford to even complain? The assault on whom is more than just "look at my dick?"

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Kirstin Gillibrand coming up on 60 Minutes very shortly. [View all] TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 OP

I will afford her the same hearing she gave Al. TV is off. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #1

Part of being a liberal is keeping an open mind Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #33

It doesn't mean not ever making it up. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #42

Or listening to both sides Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #119

I made up my mind I'm not going to rzemanfl Feb 2018 #123

Touche LOL Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #125

that is not fair wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #76

How so? nt Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #120

People don't have to live up to your standard of what a liberal is. wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #146

No my standard. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #147

Being open minded does not mean not forming opinions. It means being open to new information. wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #148

Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #150

CNBC - Trump complains about lack of due process TomCADem Feb 2018 #41

does she even realize how badly she shot herself in the foot? Skittles Feb 2018 #2

No. NT enough Feb 2018 #3

Considering that nobody but a handful of bloggers appear upset with her? brooklynite Feb 2018 #5

Good luck with trying to polish that turd rufus dog Feb 2018 #7

Point to any data that the Franken issue will be a driving force in the 2020 Primary. brooklynite Feb 2018 #10

I'll guarantee you the DFLers in Minnesota will not forget. nt dflprincess Feb 2018 #46

With all due respect, when has Minnesota been pivotal in a Presidential nomination? brooklynite Feb 2018 #48

Some people didn't think Wisconsin was important last time. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #51

If it's a tight race, every vote will count dflprincess Feb 2018 #52

Bernie Sanders won the MN Caucus 61-38...how'd that work out for him? brooklynite Feb 2018 #58

There will probably be more than 2 candidates in 2020 dflprincess Feb 2018 #67

California will be rufus dog Feb 2018 #79

I am from Northern California, and agree still_one Feb 2018 #151

How about the overwhelming number of pro-Franken posters here on DU v the Gillebrand... brush Feb 2018 #98

DU isnt representative of the Democratic Party as a whole. tammywammy Feb 2018 #113

That's one view. Another is that DUers are from every state in the country. brush Feb 2018 #115

I think there are enough Democrats who won't vote for her that she will lose a 2020 primary...should Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #107

"I thinK" is based on what information? brooklynite Feb 2018 #108

Never? aikoaiko Feb 2018 #124

I spend time on social media. It is my opinion based on what I see that she will not Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #134

I have no judgement that she'll win the nomination either... brooklynite Feb 2018 #138

When I lived in Georgia...they talked about our last Democratic governor...Roy Barnes...they Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #139

we get it, you hate Franken Skittles Feb 2018 #17

Where did brooklynite say she hates Franken? Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #37

Feel free to check the FEC listings as to how much I've contributed to Franken... brooklynite Feb 2018 #49

LOL, what a shock. You bragging about money again? WHY????? nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #53

So, if I don't contribute to Franken, I "hate him"... brooklynite Feb 2018 #57

FWIW...Shake it off... Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #64

Some don't like to accept political reality. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #121

Actually, it might be... regnaD kciN Feb 2018 #20

That seems about right. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #117

Doubt it. fallout87 Feb 2018 #8

Not with me it won't! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #24

When it comes to President Clinton, she didn't learn from the lesson of Al Gore. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2018 #21

Glad I'm watching the Olympics with women athletes that either are or will be democratisphere Feb 2018 #4

:) . That's all. Hortensis Feb 2018 #16

K&R NCTraveler Feb 2018 #6

You mean the "former" blue dog? vi5 Feb 2018 #9

I really don't understand her attitude about President Clinton Rhiannon12866 Feb 2018 #11

Calculation to distance herself from the name "Clinton" JDC Feb 2018 #13

Hillary Clinton was instrumental, too. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2018 #14

I think she is trying to distance herself from Hillary JDC Feb 2018 #15

I do see your point, but I think she's shooting herself in the foot. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2018 #18

And as we know, that strategy worked so well for Al Gore in 2000 emulatorloo Feb 2018 #153

she is self-serving Skittles Feb 2018 #26

She was my congresswoman here in NY-20 Rhiannon12866 Feb 2018 #28

All politicians are self-serving Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #31

Yes. No one has yet had the courage Nevernose Feb 2018 #47

Yes DesertRat Feb 2018 #59

Nope rufus dog Feb 2018 #83

I just saw Mazdzer win USAs first ever mens singles luge medal(silver) on TV lunasun Feb 2018 #12

I can't think of anything she might say that I would want to hear. jalan48 Feb 2018 #19

Oooooo, let me DVR it. Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #22

She did an excellent job. Blue_true Feb 2018 #23

Good to know. kstewart33 Feb 2018 #25

helping to railroad a great senator is not PASSION, it is self-serving BULLSHIT Skittles Feb 2018 #27

You have your opinion. Other people that saw the same events have their opinion. Blue_true Feb 2018 #30

She is damaged goods. And I am glad. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #54

we all know she is good peddling bullshit Skittles Feb 2018 #69

She said Al Franken didn't have to resign left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #39

Bwahahahahaha! dhol82 Feb 2018 #60

"Did she really say that? " left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #89

he has ALREADY been railroaded out of his job Skittles Feb 2018 #127

that is her backpedding Skittles Feb 2018 #68

Or maybe she is good at making people think she is passionate about an issue Bradshaw3 Feb 2018 #94

Did she talk about her support of Big Tobacco ? JI7 Feb 2018 #29

Complete distortion by you. Blue_true Feb 2018 #35

"But I understand that some people are so pure" JI7 Feb 2018 #44

I was with you until your whiny, passive-aggressive last sentence. Demit Feb 2018 #45

you got that right Skittles Feb 2018 #88

Well placed and earned dismissals often Blue_true Feb 2018 #131

Not quite. She was a major player for the firm she worked for. jalan48 Feb 2018 #55

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #32

Bernie Sanders lambasts 'absolute failure' of Democratic party's strategy TomCADem Feb 2018 #43

Calling for change doesn't equate to attack. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #50

Geez Ken. Youre like Batman. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #96

I'd have said the same thing about anyone else accused of attacking the party Ken Burch Feb 2018 #101

Youve been here a hell of a lot longer than me GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #102

I actually haven't been in a lot of those threads recently. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #104

I've been here a long time as well PatSeg Feb 2018 #129

Canny dispute that possibility GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #140

Ah, that is a good point! PatSeg Feb 2018 #142

Were you in the service? GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #143

No PatSeg Feb 2018 #144

It will never end, the wholesale attack of the Democratic Party, because very powerful interests Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #126

Sounds like her views have changed a lot since first being elected left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #34

She gave sound, logical explanations of why some of her view changed. Blue_true Feb 2018 #38

LOLOLOL Skittles Feb 2018 #72

... left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #95

Im glad she showed her true colors tavernier Feb 2018 #36

That's when we turned off the TV question everything Feb 2018 #40

She's Great BlueDog22 Feb 2018 #56

Not...bot. brush Feb 2018 #100

Joe Biden 2020 ! stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #61

I have issues with Joe, but, and would prefer someone else, but if it was between Joe and Gillibrand still_one Feb 2018 #152

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #62

No, it was posted to notify DUers that she was coming up. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 #65

Hey. You're right. rzemanfl Feb 2018 #66

I will not support her in the 2020 primaries, if it happens. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #63

Like always, the woman catches shit GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #70

she led the effort Skittles Feb 2018 #71

Exactly. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #73

And the 30 or SENATORS were then rendered helpless GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #74

I never said I had any respect for them either Skittles Feb 2018 #75

Then why pile on the girl? GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #77

People are blaming the person who first threw Al under the bus. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #78

No... GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #85

The person who threw Al Franken under the bus was himself mythology Feb 2018 #93

Thank you. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #99

Some of the allegations at least seem to be IluvPitties Feb 2018 #110

BECAUSE SHE LED THE EFFORT Skittles Feb 2018 #81

Bye then. I have not been rude nor insulting GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #90

So simply waiting DiverDave Feb 2018 #106

I do not disagree with anything you said GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #109

She can't hog what she thought would be credit Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #112

Self serving reasons??? Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #122

"Sen. Gillibrand: The political face of the #metoo movement" brooklynite Feb 2018 #80

her moral compass includes stabbing friends in the back Skittles Feb 2018 #82

Exactly. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #84

So , you believe that virtually no Democratic Senator has a moral compass? brooklynite Feb 2018 #91

LOLOL Skittles Feb 2018 #92

""Where's my moral compass ... NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #103

Watched the interview msdogi Feb 2018 #86

Judging by the responses here SHRED Feb 2018 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #116

I thought that was a she Skittles Feb 2018 #128

Ah you may be right. BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #130

Jealous much? Blue_true Feb 2018 #133

I like DU, but it does not reflect the very broad Democratic Party. Blue_true Feb 2018 #132

I saw the interview - not good left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #97

Yeah, this bothers me waaaay more than anything to do with Al Franken... vi5 Feb 2018 #114

I saw the same 60 Minutes show. Blue_true Feb 2018 #135

Okie dokie smokie left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #136

Good enough. Blue_true Feb 2018 #137

I'm even more disgusted Raine Feb 2018 #105

For some reason, when I think of Gillibrand circa 2017, ... drbtg1 Feb 2018 #111

She said Al Franken is her friend left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #118

With friends like these, who needs enemies? LisaL Feb 2018 #149

Gillibrand? Hell no! Not interested. Owl Feb 2018 #141

Kristin Effed Up...Big Time ConnorMarc Feb 2018 #145