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joshcryer

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64. I dunno. I've recognized implicit support for Paul in your posts.

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 09:50 PM

Jan 2012

I think it's a fair assessment given that you think he's being unfairly used as a "boogieman" when I think philosophically DU should be made aware of Ron Paul's far right wing ideology, and that there's absolutely nothing wrong with calling Ron Paul's ideology out. It only stood to reason that being so shook up over an "anti-cultist" that a Ron Paul supporter may be intimidated by such a link.

Though, of course, no such link existed, it was still quite interesting.

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Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist. [View all] msanthrope Jan 2012 OP

IDWGDI ... Kahuna Jan 2012 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Jan 2012 #2

"Wiretapping for me, but not for thee...." nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #3

This is so complicated IDK what he did. But this and another thread makes him seem like O'Keefe. freshwest Jan 2012 #133

I have not been a fan of GG's since day one. graham4anything Jun 2013 #202

Yes, the big money is there. I'm not sure who, but a DUer posted this and I saved it to read : freshwest Jun 2013 #203

So it seems. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #177

Woah. That's fucked up. DevonRex Jan 2012 #4

You are quite welcome. I hope to do a little more digging regarding the Hale case and Glenn's msanthrope Jan 2012 #9

It is indeed. TheWraith Jan 2012 #115

Just stumbled on this again from another thread. You're right, extremely disturbing! n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #208

Wow, that seems rather odious. MH1 Jan 2012 #5

Good post... SidDithers Jan 2012 #6

I love Sgt. Hulka. He's my big toe. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #12

Interesting. All of this is new to me. MineralMan Jan 2012 #7

wow....just Wow! Spazito Jan 2012 #8

But, he's a progressive, you see... MineralMan Jan 2012 #10

Are you saying people don't change? Change has come Jan 2012 #164

Gee funny how you left this out dsc Jan 2012 #11

That doesnt fit the orchestrated campaign to slime a blogger that dares question Obama DJ13 Jan 2012 #15

It has nothing to do with Obama. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #112

In response to those who dare question Glenn treestar Jan 2012 #166

Yes. Being told you are not so much unethical as incompetent is something every lawyer clings to. msanthrope Jan 2012 #16

Ignorance of one's own cited link is no defense, either brentspeak Jan 2012 #28

You mean "The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical" msanthrope Jan 2012 #37

Defense counsel could have reasonably believed that his conduct was permissible. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #44

Since he neglected to read the local rules, that's true. So he can always claim ignorance msanthrope Jan 2012 #57

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #55

How dare I quote Glenn Greenwald!!!! In a thread about, well, Glenn Greenwald. msanthrope Jan 2012 #65

I've seen you quote people who purport to quote Greenwald, that's it MNBrewer Jan 2012 #68

Oh, dear. Was poor Glenn misquoted? So many times??? nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #83

I don't know MNBrewer Jan 2012 #85

Which quote??? I can't make you click the links and read. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #90

All of the quotes point to one source. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #94

American Lawyer Media/April 6, 2000 By Molly McDonough is the source. msanthrope Jan 2012 #99

Then you should link to that source. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #101

Um, I did. Do you not understand how an archive works? msanthrope Jan 2012 #103

You should not be using questionable sources.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #104

American Lawyer Media/April 6, 2000 By Molly McDonough is the source. How is she not msanthrope Jan 2012 #105

You didn't link to American Lawyer Media or Molly McDonough. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #107

You are posting falsely about Mr Ross. He was acquitted by jury trial***. msanthrope Jan 2012 #108

Yeah, I'm a Scientologist.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #110

Are you still suggesting that an article from a decade ago was altered to defame Glenn Greenwald? msanthrope Jan 2012 #111

Not to pick a fight but that would sort of be like saying Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #139

Zzzz guanubian Jan 2012 #143

This is so sad. What's next, his guidance counselor said he was "surly?" DirkGently Jan 2012 #119

Great post! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #150

OMFG! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #13

I went to this link provided in the OP... Spazito Jan 2012 #21

You best look him up on wikipedia, it's a shocker. whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #23

well, wikipedia is good for geography... Spazito Jan 2012 #35

Defense counsel could have reasonably believed that his conduct was permissible Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #45

Yes--when he decided not the read the local rules, I am sure Mr. Greenwald thought msanthrope Jan 2012 #60

As someone else pointed out... Spazito Jan 2012 #74

Lawyers are rebuked regularly. I really can't get too worked up about this. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #91

Okay n/t Spazito Jan 2012 #95

So, Greenwald's invasion of privacy isn't troubling geek tragedy Jan 2012 #127

Here: joshcryer Jan 2012 #22

And that's why whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #24

American Lawyer Media/April 6, 2000 By Molly McDonough is the source. msanthrope Jan 2012 #26

I already explained that to them. joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

Why do you refer to me as 'them' whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #43

It's the new PUMA. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #48

"Singular they" as the "new PUMA"? joshcryer Jan 2012 #52

Nice racket. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #56

I don't know if you're a male or female, thus I use singular they. joshcryer Jan 2012 #51

No, I'm referring to the body of your post whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #54

I dunno. I've recognized implicit support for Paul in your posts. joshcryer Jan 2012 #64

I'm amazed you're allowed to get away with this kind of stuff whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #77

I think it was a fair assessment given the information available. joshcryer Jan 2012 #81

Total garbage whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #92

I'm sorry for presenting that assumption, though. joshcryer Jan 2012 #97

"knocking over liquor stores"? boppers Jan 2012 #120

You're right whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #121

It was salient enough to be mentioned. boppers Jan 2012 #124

There is a new game: get your opponent ronpauled out of here. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #100

Brilliant! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #116

I've got a witch hunt list going... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #136

You should read later in the thread--they're using Scientology propaganda to defend msanthrope Jan 2012 #109

This guy brentspeak Jan 2012 #30

Yes--did he change the source article? I couldn't hotlink from Lexis, but msanthrope Jan 2012 #39

Stop trying to silence Greenwald! CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #14

You never loved him. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #82

Leave Glenn alone! Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #169

And we unethically tape millions. jpgray Jan 2012 #17

well, well. I can't say that I'm surprised. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #18

bookmarking. Whisp Jan 2012 #19

The district court specifically declined to label Greenwald as "unethical" brentspeak Jan 2012 #20

"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical" msanthrope Jan 2012 #32

"It's not for the court to say" brentspeak Jan 2012 #38

It's not for the court to pass judgments of character, but of law. That's what they did. Glenn msanthrope Jan 2012 #40

They did not say he wasn't unethical. geek tragedy Jan 2012 #126

Zzzzz guanubian Jan 2012 #147

It's becoming clear to me that Glen Greenwald actually likes the Libertarian concepts... joshcryer Jan 2012 #25

In this thread, DUer's will defend taping without permission. joshcryer Jan 2012 #27

In other threads, DUer's defend incinerating brown children. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #59

Link? joshcryer Jan 2012 #69

Look at any thread that discusses Obama's drone wars MNBrewer Jan 2012 #70

Don't see 'em. Interesting. joshcryer Jan 2012 #76

guess you were lucky and missed that particular low point in DU history, then MNBrewer Jan 2012 #80

How long ago was it? joshcryer Jan 2012 #84

It was at it's worst right after Awlaki's kid was murdered, along with his cousin. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #88

Ahh, yes, that one. joshcryer Jan 2012 #96

Geezus Christ. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #29

Good job spreading RW smears. baldguy Jan 2012 #31

Public court documents are RW smears??? Then Greenwald's fucked. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #33

Karl Rove would be proud. baldguy Jan 2012 #50

Yes, he'd ProSense Jan 2012 #58

And taking statements out of context & twisting their meaning is a very Rovian thing to do. baldguy Jan 2012 #102

Glenn Greenwald is a great Journalist fascisthunter Jan 2012 #34

Corporatists? You do know that Greenwald thinks Citizen's United was rightly decided, correct? msanthrope Jan 2012 #42

I know we're not supposed to accuse DUer's of being liars, so I won't MNBrewer Jan 2012 #62

Thank you for posting the column that Greenwald wrote in support of the decision. msanthrope Jan 2012 #72

I did read it and I find it well reasoned and argued MNBrewer Jan 2012 #78

Like the part where he compares the US judicial system to North Korea's? msanthrope Jan 2012 #87

So does the ACLU in strictly 1st Amendment grounds. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #66

And I think th ACLU is as mistaken as Greenwald. It's happened. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #75

Explain on Constitutioon grounds. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #79

I'm not sure what "Constitutioon grounds" are. If you start a thread about it, msanthrope Jan 2012 #98

Ooh. Clever. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #113

Why? Make a Constitutional argument as to why they are wrong? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #93

No, he's not... SidDithers Jan 2012 #144

Oh dear. JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #41

This thread: 13 recs. Thread on a pro-Greenwald thread earlier: 38 recs Weisbergkevin Jan 2012 #46

This ProSense Jan 2012 #53

which one? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #63

Thanks... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #47

Interesting! ProSense Jan 2012 #49

Plus he's gay! girl gone mad Jan 2012 #61

I cannot tell what being gay has to do with this thread, but I'm willing to hear your theory. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #67

No theory, just a statement of fact. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #71

Oh, I think you've gone beyond questioning, haven't you? nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #73

No. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #86

Glenn is dead to me, now. UGH! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #89

lol pmorlan1 Jan 2012 #106

I've been posting this story for years here frazzled Jan 2012 #114

It's even worse than THAT-- msanthrope Jan 2012 #117

Wow...there are just no words the more I hear. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #130

Yikes...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #145

Wow. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #118

Wow, DU, how far we've fallen to defend scum like this. joshcryer Jan 2012 #122

Fascinating n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #125

Holy shit. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #128

All on the front page of GD right now. Do you see the futility? DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #123

This story really freaks me the fuck out.n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #129

Remember when Glenn Greenwald _ed_ Jan 2012 #131

Is this ProSense Jan 2012 #132

I would have preferred that you link to my work... guanubian Jan 2012 #134

Oh my!! I went with the legal source.... msanthrope Jan 2012 #135

Thanks, it's not a big deal. guanubian Jan 2012 #142

I'm glad you got some traffic. The 'rape a nun' fracas is disgusting-- msanthrope Jan 2012 #146

So nasty for so long guanubian Jan 2012 #149

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Jan 2012 #167

Glenn has always oozed douchebaggery. great white snark Jan 2012 #137

he seems to have replaced Jane Hamster around here lately. Whisp Jan 2012 #138

He's treasurer of her PAC-- msanthrope Jan 2012 #140

interesting stuff. Whisp Jan 2012 #141

Quite a bit of organized smear there. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #148

Yay libel! guanubian Jan 2012 #151

Please edit out your second word--it's against community standards, and your post msanthrope Jan 2012 #153

Done guanubian Jan 2012 #155

Wait, wait, wait--did you just post an article criticize Greenwald while arguing for the Iraq War on Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #162

Cultish Followers guanubian Jan 2012 #163

Pot. Meet Kettle. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #171

Let me get this straight--someone who supports the Iraq War and opposes the Islamic Community Center Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #191

Zzzzzz guanubian Jan 2012 #192

Spoken like a cultist guanubian Jan 2012 #194

Basic Reasoning guanubian Jan 2012 #195

I'm going to keep pawing you around until I can overcome my insomnia guanubian Jan 2012 #197

Dude. You are only playing with yourself. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #198

Waay late to the party.... Rob H May 2012 #199

So, you are a neocon, eh? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #168

So, you are a child molester, eh? guanubian Jan 2012 #193

Just looking up Fightin with Grabes. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #196

Touchy. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #172

What is the RDLC? Googled it, found nothing. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #152

The more accurate name of the party Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #170

he must have struck a nerve if people are going to this much trouble to dig up dirt on him yurbud Jan 2012 #154

Nothing strange here guanubian Jan 2012 #156

You insult the intelligence of DUers when you imply we will buy EVERYTHING someone says because we yurbud Jan 2012 #157

I find some of what Hitler says about the nature of propaganda useful, but yurbud Jan 2012 #158

That's a generality that skirts the issue. guanubian Jan 2012 #160

I would cite Hitler on propaganda because he used it very successfully yurbud Jan 2012 #178

You're continuing to miss the point guanubian Jan 2012 #179

Also guanubian Jan 2012 #161

Ron Paul, and Chomsky too guanubian Jan 2012 #159

Thanks for this, msanthrope. This is truly fascinating Number23 Jan 2012 #165

Ah yes--Greenwald in his pre-Salon days. His piece on illegal immigration msanthrope Jan 2012 #173

Holy Smokes: ProSense Jan 2012 #174

Worthy of it's own thread, frankly.... msanthrope Jan 2012 #175

His "explanations" are often far more revealing than his usual writings Number23 Jan 2012 #176

In other words, he was for bigotry before he was against it? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #185

I think people coming here to decapitate our intellectual heroes are not to be trusted librechik Jan 2012 #180

Funny how people who shouldn't be trusted keep getting Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #181

Glenn Greenwald = "intellectual hero"?!? MH1 Jan 2012 #182

yeah, and it's obvious those who don't perceive this librechik Jan 2012 #183

.. MH1 Jan 2012 #190

I have never guillotined anyone in my life. msanthrope Jan 2012 #186

How anyone who believes this could call treestar Jun 2013 #204

This guy's a real beaut, ain't he? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #184

I think he is a Libertarian who made his money being a pseudo-liberal/progressive. msanthrope Jan 2012 #187

"Libertarian who made his money being a pseudo-liberal/progressive". This is why I will always..... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #188

To add to your point... guanubian Jan 2012 #189

I'm bookmarking this. thucythucy Jun 2013 #200

I'm not surprised you posted this. Kill the fuckin messenga! morningfog Jun 2013 #201

I'd not been paying close attention last year and missed this SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #205

bump for relevance nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #206

Thank you---I think you also might like this thread-- msanthrope Jul 2013 #207