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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 05:54 AM

8. Damn, please not in S.F.!

Politically, I can't imagine San Franciscans putting up with it. The politicians probably won't let that stop them, though, they serve other interests, not ours.

S.F. does have a frighteningly desperate and violent under-class. Many of the streets are permanently occupied by people who have no hope whatsoever, no legitimate means of income, no support network, and they do what they have to to survive. It's a huge problem, and needs to be dealt with.

It's sad to see Mayor Lee buying into the police state. Sounds similar to Quan in Oakland. The problem is poverty and hopelessness. Most of these people are just forgotten about by society, and wouldn't be criminals if they had another way to survive.

There are a number of better ways to deal with this problem. Taxing the hell out of the rich and getting that money back to local governments where social services could be funded would be one way.

All of these people are dealing with a lack of opportunity in their lives. Many of them are also dealing with substance abuse problems and various degrees of social challenges or mental illness. It wasn't like this on SF streets pre-Reagan, when so many social services were cut.

We need massive public works projects that improve our urban environments, with the jobs going to the homeless, even if it requires training them and giving them social support in order to hold down the jobs. Some of the money could come from reduced law enforcement and incarceration costs. The rest could easily be covered by tax policy.

It's the kind of change I used to expect Democrats to support. Our Dinocrat Senator Feinstein likes Mayor Lee, and it wouldn't surprise me if she also approves of stop and frisk. She's going out of her way to make sure Manning and Assange are locked up forever or worse. Part of the problem, she is, and it looks like her pal Ed Lee is also part of the problem.

Yeah, I know, good luck with getting any constructive approaches to the poverty problem. We shouldn't shut up about it though, in fact it's all the more reason to speak out for real change any way we can. Our politicians won't do it for us, they'll do crap like stop and frisk, treating the symptoms of the problems, and criminalizing the victims of an increasingly top-heavy society.

Sorry for the rant, thanks for the OP, I was not aware of this until I saw it.

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AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 OP
Downwinder Jul 2012 #1
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AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #16
UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #4
spike91nz Jul 2012 #5
Skittles Jul 2012 #6
AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #14
justanidea Jul 2012 #7
2pooped2pop Jul 2012 #9
AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #13
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dreamnightwind Jul 2012 #8
dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #10
AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #11
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AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #17
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