I happen to think there are reasonable gun owners who are not NRA shills, but maybe (Reply #108)

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Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:28 PM

Laurian (2,593 posts)

108. I happen to think there are reasonable gun owners who are not NRA shills, but maybe

they are not the ones engaging in these discussions. I have never owned a gun and do not understand the strong attachment some have to them. I do not care if someone has a gun for hunting or sport, but assault rifles and 100 round magazines are beyond reason.

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I don't understand the animosity towards DU gun owners. [View all]	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	OP
A DUer posted today that all the DU gun owners have blood on their hands	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#1
That is irrational...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#3
Ugh...	one_voice	Jul 2012	#9
Might as well say that all military personel have blood on their hands too.	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#13
I've seen that kind of nonsense here in the past, as well.	MADem	Jul 2012	#136
The whole point of the military is to regulate who has blood on their hands and why.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#319
And yesterday, that ALL gun owners fantasized about shooting sprees	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#25
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2012	#258
I see hate for the people who want to have some	movonne	Jul 2012	#68
You mean a law against Murder?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#112
is there one to cover this?	Skittles	Jul 2012	#204
ATF is on it, they hate competition.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#222
all a big joke to you	Skittles	Jul 2012	#228
If it would make you feel better,	Tejas	Jul 2012	#233
bye bye	Skittles	Jul 2012	#234
many of us are really saddened by the killing. Gun owners who make light of the situation are upseet	samsingh	Jul 2012	#302
I'm sad too, also sad to be persecuted just because I own a firearm.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#307
i don't think gun control advocates want your to give up your firearm. really, I don't.	samsingh	Jul 2012	#310
Gun control advocates I can stomach, the Fascists on the other hand...	Tejas	Jul 2012	#312
calling any Democrat a fascist is not reasonable	samsingh	Jul 2012	#313
I didn't call those pathetic RW weasels Democrats.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#315
i'm not sure what you're saying then.	samsingh	Jul 2012	#321
I agree...My husband bought a shotgun, years ago for home protection, but neither one of us	whathehell	Jul 2012	#377
it isnt "owning a firearm" that is the problem.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#318
20,000 gun laws?...	lame54	Jul 2012	#369
Popcorn?	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#128
Thats one of the more civil comments, unfortunately.	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#138
have you read the comments from pro-gunners?	samsingh	Jul 2012	#305
gunowners = "cult of penile compensation"	Tejas	Jul 2012	#314
Yes. I have been following and commenting on the story here all weekend.	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#330
well we are reacting to a tremendous tragedy and when it seems like some people	samsingh	Jul 2012	#334
The problem is a particular group...	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#339
"Gun ownership is a right granted under the constitution."	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#359
Disgusting.	emilyg	Jul 2012	#171
I posted today that I feel like I have been attacked by family.	Mojorabbit	Jul 2012	#205
...	gateley	Jul 2012	#405
Thanks	Mojorabbit	Jul 2012	#408
So when somebody dies in a DUI accident, is there blood on my hands since I drink beer? (N/T)	Travis_0004	Jul 2012	#231
No but if you were an advocate for unregulated driving and relaxation of drunk driving laws	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#279
That would be me.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#281
So what is your solution?	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#324
Right to self defense against what?	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#325
Self defense against someone who would cause you harm	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#327
As a gun owner here, let me second that those are reasonable views.	eallen	Jul 2012	#342
Some nits...	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#360
That's awful. nt	gateley	Jul 2012	#404
When seconds count, police are only minutes away. Some pray for police, others know they alone are	jody	Jul 2012	#2
Another gun cliche tinged with a dollop of paranoia...	rfranklin	Jul 2012	#10
What you call "gun cliche" is recognized as fact by the overwhelming majority of voters. nt	jody	Jul 2012	#24
Not true...just a group of fringe who have both Dems and Repukes	joeybee12	Jul 2012	#27
ROFL have a nice evening. nt	jody	Jul 2012	#30
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2012	#154
Also recognized by the courts. n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#362
What a self-righteous, sheltered statement.	Daemonaquila	Jul 2012	#85
Yeah, our police are minutes away - like 30 minutes	tularetom	Jul 2012	#31
This is what gets me going. It's the "kill or be killed" Law of the jungle - wild wild west	Ed Suspicious	Jul 2012	#121
I hope all citizens with a legal firearm respect your beliefs and let you deal with an assailaent	jody	Jul 2012	#131
That's hyperbole.	Igel	Jul 2012	#246
This message was self-deleted by its author	sadbear	Jul 2012	#4
I find it odd myself.	Brickbat	Jul 2012	#5
I agree with you, and I'm not a gun owner either.	yardwork	Jul 2012	#6
Absolutely...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#15
Check out this pm I got last night for daring to have a difference of opinion on guns	permatex	Jul 2012	#82
You can alert on PMs. That will send them to Admins for review.	yardwork	Jul 2012	#106
I did last night	permatex	Jul 2012	#146
I would have blocked that person from sending me mail, too.	yardwork	Jul 2012	#155
I did that also	permatex	Jul 2012	#156
You know you are winning the argument when you are insulted ...	spin	Jul 2012	#189
I've gotten some nastiness in my inbox from that person on other issues.	Codeine	Jul 2012	#282
He won't be sending me anymore pm's	permatex	Jul 2012	#288
what, did you buy a foreign car or something?	dionysus	Jul 2012	#323
I've had f-bomb after f-bomb directed at me in the last 2 days for pointing out just that.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#67
Well said. mt	rrneck	Jul 2012	#113
Most DU polls on DU member gun ownership are about 50/50.	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#7
Is that the split?	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#17
Post a poll and find out. I've seen a few on DU ...always comes out to around 50/50.	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#21
Self-selection bias much?	sadbear	Jul 2012	#28
..and anyone should give a shit about what you think?	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#39
I think the other poster's point	mythology	Jul 2012	#50
I never posted any such poll. The ones I've seen are like "do you own a gun - yes/no"	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#55
Wow!	sadbear	Jul 2012	#56
Nationally fourty percent of Dems are armed per gallup	Mojorabbit	Jul 2012	#212
"I couldn't really give a shit" - You're still here?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#316
Hell, I'm surprised you're still here.	sadbear	Jul 2012	#331
Somebody accused you of crawling out of a hole? Say it ain't so!	Tejas	Jul 2012	#343
Is English your second language?	sadbear	Jul 2012	#348
Why do you ask?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#349
Uh huh,..but how many people with fishing poles	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#161
It's those who are waving their guns around and saying ha-ha can't stop us that are...	rfranklin	Jul 2012	#8
I own a gun also BUT	wiseoldie	Jul 2012	#140
Welcome to DU!	beac	Jul 2012	#221
Yes, but how come the criminals aren't getting them in Canada? Great Britain?	aquart	Jul 2012	#306
They are getting them in the UK even with draconian laws	Mojorabbit	Jul 2012	#309
So your argument is their criminals have the guns but very bad aim? British restraint? No bullets?	aquart	Jul 2012	#320
Their gun crime went up after they passed the laws if I am reading this chart correctly	Mojorabbit	Jul 2012	#322
British restraint? ... lol	Kolesar	Jul 2012	#329
Exactly.	kurtzapril4	Jul 2012	#293
"those who are waving their guns around and saying ha-ha can't stop us"	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#363
It is gun problem. Nt	xchrom	Jul 2012	#11
I am so sorry for what has happened to the community that you grew up in.	cbayer	Jul 2012	#12
Well...my Liberal gun owning friends...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#19
I think that is true here as well, but there is not significant organizations for progressives.	cbayer	Jul 2012	#40
Try this one	permatex	Jul 2012	#96
Thanks for the links	REP	Jul 2012	#219
gun organization for progressives	wiseoldie	Jul 2012	#150
I think even in owners (well, sane DU gun owners) would agree that	gateley	Jul 2012	#406
I don't interpret it as animosity toward gun owners. It is at reactions of some of the gun owners.	NRaleighLiberal	Jul 2012	#14
Well stated n/t	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#18
thanks - I thought long and hard about how to try to ensure my point was clear - not easy.	NRaleighLiberal	Jul 2012	#26
Well, give yourself a pat on the back	permatex	Jul 2012	#120
Well, you did good. Again. nt	rrneck	Jul 2012	#123
When liberal Democrats start shooting up theaters, then we have reason to bash DU gun owners.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#16
Along with 99.9% of all gun owners.	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#23
Not all DU gun owners are liberals	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#270
I support lots of other issues....	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#364
YOU might support liberal issues	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#397
I don't blame gun owners. I don't own guns. However when I have made comments	southernyankeebelle	Jul 2012	#20
"guns that fire rapidly" - what on earth are you on about now?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#51
She's on about guns that fire rapidly. Those of us who don't love guns	Chorophyll	Jul 2012	#62
I agree. What's with people and their gun fetishes?	Lex	Jul 2012	#65
I've seen this reaction on more than one thread.	Chorophyll	Jul 2012	#71
Insisting on facts isn't a "festish"	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#76
Thank you.	REP	Jul 2012	#216
You're expecting people who generally stay far away from guns	Chorophyll	Jul 2012	#227
I don't have a gun fetish.	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#72
"Fully automatic guns are illegal. "	rl6214	Jul 2012	#247
Drama much?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#89
You are making the point. As soon as a person says something you don't agree with you	southernyankeebelle	Jul 2012	#88
A simple "I don't know" would do fine.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#117
This message was self-deleted by its author	southernyankeebelle	Jul 2012	#295
You've seen it before, but here is what some of the gun culture like about SEMI-autos.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#158
you know what the poster is trying to say	G_j	Jul 2012	#209
The poster has a keyboard.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#215
and presumably you have a brain. nt	G_j	Jul 2012	#217
Yes, and you are boring it to death.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#218
LOL, but you really did know what they were attempting to say	G_j	Jul 2012	#225
What you may find interesting is that the 'worlds fastest shooter' uses a REVOLVER.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#64
That is crazy	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#77
Kinda rains on the whole 'semi-auto is the DEVIL' parade...	Edweird	Jul 2012	#83
yes it does	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#92
Some guy trains himself to pull a trigger faster than a dork off the street with a semi-auto and...	Gidney N Cloyd	Jul 2012	#157
Faster than anyone on Earth with a semi-auto, actually.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#163
This was a subthread about 'rapid fire'.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#196
Not really.	Downtown Hound	Jul 2012	#177
There's a reason infantry trains with their rifles ALL THE TIME.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#194
You claim that Ray Charles would have had a higher body count and you accuse me of buying into the	Downtown Hound	Jul 2012	#269
That was an 'over the top' literary device used to make a point. But thanks for playing!	Edweird	Jul 2012	#277
I didn't know that. But you must admit there is a difference in 8 rounds then 100 rounds.	southernyankeebelle	Jul 2012	#90
He can fire 6 rounds, reload, and fire another 6 rounds - in less than 3 seconds.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#95
Wow, it is very impressive.	southernyankeebelle	Jul 2012	#104
I don't know much about guns or rifles.	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#110
I don't care what you own. But when a nut like the guy that went shooting	southernyankeebelle	Jul 2012	#294
Cho, the shooter at Virginia Tech fire 170 shots killing 32 and wounding 17	rl6214	Jul 2012	#249
He's amazing	REP	Jul 2012	#220
Check this dude out	Edweird	Jul 2012	#235
I've seen him, too - he's pretty awesome	REP	Jul 2012	#250
I presume you meant....	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#365
The glaring problem here (imho):	The Straight Story	Jul 2012	#22
Because for the most part...	-..__...	Jul 2012	#29
Come live in the Mountain West...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#52
Maybe it's because of the absolutely predictable hostile reaction	enough	Jul 2012	#32
If someone mentions reasonable gun laws	Kingofalldems	Jul 2012	#33
Not true. There is little discussion about reasonable gun laws...	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#105
That's bull.	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#239
"ruthlessly attacked"? Can you cite to this? n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#366
The question is	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#122
I believe it is the presumed allegiance of all gun owners to the NRA.	Laurian	Jul 2012	#34
If they're not aligned with the NRA, maybe they should stop promoting the NRA's lies.	baldguy	Jul 2012	#43
I don't know if they are or not, and I do not appreciate seeing any DU members spouting	Laurian	Jul 2012	#58
"Perhaps they should state their differences with the NRA despite being gun owners"	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#79
I happen to think there are reasonable gun owners who are not NRA shills, but maybe	Laurian	Jul 2012	#108
Yes, another example of a purity demand...	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#332
When every pro-gun argument is labled a "NRA talking point" then we have a problem.	hack89	Jul 2012	#74
Like the continued insistance that militias have nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment?	baldguy	Jul 2012	#87
per the2nd Amendment,nothing to do with a militia	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#102
You need to read Justice Stevens' dissent, not the crud from the 5 right wingers on the court.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#159
as stated down thread	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#167
Justice Stevens dissent is not the law, it is simply dissent by the losing justices	rl6214	Jul 2012	#251
It can become law in next case unless NRA succeeds in defeating Obama and other good Dems.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#254
It won't become law because President Obama believes in the 2A	rl6214	Jul 2012	#268
I doubt he believes people running around with weapons in public is good for society.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#289
Dosen't matter whether he says or thinks it's good for society	rl6214	Jul 2012	#317
That's less of an "NRA talking point"...	Lizzie Poppet	Jul 2012	#118
And there you go...	baldguy	Jul 2012	#132
Nice refutation.	Lizzie Poppet	Jul 2012	#182
I am just quoting law	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#148
Wasn't addressed to you.	Lizzie Poppet	Jul 2012	#166
I've asked repeatedly for someone to diagram the sentence....	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#367
So if "more guns breeds more violence"	hack89	Jul 2012	#144
Would be a lot less if we had enacted strict gun laws back then. And you know there are other	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#175
EXACTLY!!!	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#174
Partly true	Kaleva	Jul 2012	#49
I agree with you.	Blue_In_AK	Jul 2012	#35
I don't know which DU members own guns.	grantcart	Jul 2012	#36
I'd agree with that.	Kaleva	Jul 2012	#59
Neither do I.	muntrv	Jul 2012	#37
It's not. It's animosity towards the standard RW extremist lying propaganda posted by gun owners.	baldguy	Jul 2012	#38
Be careful who you attempt to alienate...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#57
When did blackmail become a Democratic virtue?	baldguy	Jul 2012	#81
The RW likes to breathe oxygen	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#115
You sir are a perfect example of the OP	permatex	Jul 2012	#130
I'm with you. It's disconcerting to read views on guns, shooting people, expansion, etc. in gungeon.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#186
Obama	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#207
Well ask NRA's Wayne LePierrr (?) why he wants to defeat Obama.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#211
"It's disconcerting to read views on guns, shooting people, expansion, etc. in gungeon."	rl6214	Jul 2012	#256
Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA, 1259 posts in the last 90 days	Union Scribe	Jul 2012	#263
I am not a DINO, I never go into the Gungeon even for juries	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#73
True that.	ohheckyeah	Jul 2012	#107
it is failure to understand the difference between gun owners and gun nuts	Skittles	Jul 2012	#41
So what's the difference? nt	rrneck	Jul 2012	#133
Support for the NRA is one sign	eallen	Jul 2012	#341
I've heard that term over and over again	permatex	Jul 2012	#134
This message was self-deleted by its author	HangOnKids	Jul 2012	#191
Wow! with your AMAZING New post count on DU can't you tell us?	permatex	Jul 2012	#195
To say nothing of people who won't recognize a difference. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#152
Exactly. IMO, when one carries in public, and owns more than a few guns -- they are likely a "nut."	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#172
A common theme this weekend is defending themselves from the government	DainBramaged	Jul 2012	#42
Hmmm...	-..__...	Jul 2012	#47
If that is the reason to arm up, folks can leave their guns at home until the revolution.	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#169
So, you are asserting that no people need all the protection they can muster from their governments?	TheKentuckian	Jul 2012	#203
Wow you got all of that from my sentence?	DainBramaged	Jul 2012	#224
IMO the animosity towards DU gun owners is just the same reactionary BS that we have been TRAINED	Vincardog	Jul 2012	#44
Because they're so goddamn smug and pretentious about it... nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Jul 2012	#45
Maybe a few are...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#60
Oh I do. It's simple:	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2012	#46
+1	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#119
Nailed it. n/t.	Inkfreak	Jul 2012	#278
Oh give me a big fukkin break!	ananda	Jul 2012	#48
Okay...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#66
Bull F'in' Crap	Daemonaquila	Jul 2012	#100
Superbly put.	Lizzie Poppet	Jul 2012	#114
Yea, no joke "Patriot act" anyone??? nt	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#226
Friday morning, in one of the early Aurora threads,	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#127
It's funny how those who want to talk about reasonable gun control laws	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#243
+1	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#352
I haven't seen any "muzzling" going on from either side. n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#371
To SOME DU members	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#53
I've seen at least two "nah nah nah" type threads by pro gun people..	Fumesucker	Jul 2012	#54
That is what did it for me.	Kalidurga	Jul 2012	#101
"gloating"? Could you link to this please? n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#373
Have you also noticed that those with the virulent posts against anyone who owns a gun have been	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#61
Do you come here often?	Confusious	Jul 2012	#274
If you understand the context of the OP and what was said, you know that the particular thread	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#276
No, I just think you're wrong	Confusious	Jul 2012	#290
You have no animosity? You didn't post: "274. Do you come here often?" in connection with saying	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#292
I don't understand the vitriol towards DUers who want more sensible gun laws.	Lex	Jul 2012	#63
That's what I've been reading on DU, Lex	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#69
Because criminals don't obey the 20,000+ laws that we already have?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#98
Oh BULLshit. Holmes was a law-abiding gun owner--until he wasn't.	Lex	Jul 2012	#165
20,000 gun laws didn't stop him,	Tejas	Jul 2012	#170
Maybe a little common sense would have helped - but that's been outlawed by theNRA.	baldguy	Jul 2012	#214
Who says gun owners	ohheckyeah	Jul 2012	#267
Gun owners say that.	baldguy	Jul 2012	#275
One gun owner on the Internet	ohheckyeah	Jul 2012	#308
Not just one. But you knew that.	baldguy	Jul 2012	#346
And now you know what I know...	ohheckyeah	Jul 2012	#350
If you haven't seen much support for no gun restrictions, then you've been blind.	baldguy	Jul 2012	#354
Or maybe, I just haven't been in every	ohheckyeah	Jul 2012	#358
And that is not at all "no gun control laws". So you are either very confused....	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#375
Who says? Obtuse parrots, that's who.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#301
"you don't want ANY gun control laws" - well, you know what they say about ASSuming things.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#300
Ummm... so what?	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#374
Then you have the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" group.	Pholus	Jul 2012	#284
Guns are our abortion.	Atman	Jul 2012	#70
Just so. +1. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#385
You're a regressive monster as bad as Mr. Holmes.	ileus	Jul 2012	#75
Sarcasm?	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#80
It is.	rrneck	Jul 2012	#137
don't pretend this is about All DU Gun Owners	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#78
I don't understand the animosity of DU posters, in general.	Peregrine Took	Jul 2012	#84
In my 8 years here...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#91
I'm not anti-gun...I'm for sensible (common sense) gun laws. And most know what they should be,	demosincebirth	Jul 2012	#86
There is a bigoted belief, common among middle class urban progressives...	Odin2005	Jul 2012	#93
I'm an urban progressive...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#97
I am rrneck	rrneck	Jul 2012	#139
When I was 16 I spent the better part of the summer on the farm	Simo 1939_1940	Jul 2012	#213
This Fargo guy is glad to hear that!	Odin2005	Jul 2012	#229
Every one of these killers has	pipoman	Jul 2012	#94
BAM...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#99
I agree. The right wingers help on one end by promoting easy access to guns, and cut funding on	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#188
We think that guns should not be around and that without guns this would not happen. To me it is a	robinlynne	Jul 2012	#103
The best advice that I can give you is to ingore the ones who go to far	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#109
It Goes Both Ways -	otohara	Jul 2012	#111
so what in the hell does anyone need a automatic for ? a gun is ok but machine guns glock etc ?????	april	Jul 2012	#116
Automatics are heavily regulated and pricey	Kaleva	Jul 2012	#124
I assume you're speaking of fully automatic weapons?	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#176
Yes	Kaleva	Jul 2012	#200
I have yet	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#129
I can't recall an automatic being used in this shooting or any other major ones lately. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#153
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2012	#378
No hate, no animosity,	mahina	Jul 2012	#125
Every hunting rifle ever used is directly derived from a military design.	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#379
Go read Johnny Rico's thread	stranger81	Jul 2012	#126
Please.	beevul	Jul 2012	#271
Gun owner here.........	socialist_n_TN	Jul 2012	#135
As I see it,	Cary	Jul 2012	#141
The animosity towards and broad-brushing -	lynne	Jul 2012	#142
Never owned a gun. Probably never will.	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#143
ty	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#151
I don't know know any DUers who feel otherwise.	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#183
Just pointing out how appreciative I am of the Big Tent that is our party.	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#193
OK. So what is the point of the OP?	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#197
After reading most of the post here	Pakid	Jul 2012	#145
I’ve seen a lot of mindless rage directed at gun owners all weekend	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#147
Youre absolutely wrong, it IS A GUN PROBLEM	bowens43	Jul 2012	#149
Funny But I Missed All Of The Posts You Are Complaining About	DallasNE	Jul 2012	#160
Agree. It is not a gun problem it is a culture of violence problem.	harun	Jul 2012	#162
Guns and military	BlueinOhio	Jul 2012	#164
I agree with you, "This isn't a gun problem. This is a societal problem." It manifests	RKP5637	Jul 2012	#168
Exactly. It's easier	emilyg	Jul 2012	#178
And I really have no idea what the solution is because the problems in	RKP5637	Jul 2012	#202
Not true.	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#180
I certainly agree with that, but I do think we have some deep societal	RKP5637	Jul 2012	#198
Of course we do. We're a community made up of humans.	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#199
Just curious, what would be an effective way to attempt to reduce	RKP5637	Jul 2012	#208
Let's start...	Buddyblazon	Jul 2012	#223
You do realize that it will take years.	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#244
I have no doubt it can be addressed. A lot of it has to do, of course,	RKP5637	Jul 2012	#296
Perhaps I have a simplistic	emilyg	Jul 2012	#344
Yep, I agree. There is little that is "feel good" today. I think all of the	RKP5637	Jul 2012	#345
"knives, fists would be far slower"	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#381
What animosity toward DU gun owners?	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#173
no shit	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#179
What is an "anti gun religionist?"	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#181
I would	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#184
So what is a "gun religionist?"	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#187
Google it	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#210
So you can't define a term you use?	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#241
I have only seen the term used here	Go Vols	Jul 2012	#252
There is a particular virulent anti-gun poster here that spews that term non-stop.	hack89	Jul 2012	#291
Well, they might be flirting, you be the judge.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#192
"They" equals two questionable posts?	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#201
This type of rhetoric has been going on since day 1.	beevul	Jul 2012	#272
Thank you! I don't understand it, either.	OnionPatch	Jul 2012	#185
Just remember, DU is not a reflection of real life.	Lil Missy	Jul 2012	#190
Most intelligent post I've seen lately. nt	rrneck	Jul 2012	#380
I'll bite	sellitman	Jul 2012	#206
Hold on....	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#236
Nobody needs a AK-47 to defend themselves or shoot deer	sellitman	Jul 2012	#240
As I said before...Since you clearly did not read my post.	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#245
Semi-auto AK-pattern rifles are excellent for deer hunting, in legal configuration.	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#382
Sick	sellitman	Jul 2012	#399
"screw humanity" how?	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#400
+1000	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#238
"the spread of automatic weapons" - hyperbole and call it a "valid discussion?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#248
Yes, rational discussion.	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#253
"the spread of automatic weapons" - well?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#260
thanks for the having the patience	G_j	Jul 2012	#273
Any ammo that can take down a deer or elk will go through almost any modern body armor.	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#383
I never said aything about "full auto"	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#409
It is very difficult to have a rational policy discussion...	Marengo	Jul 2012	#410
Policy should be based on the good of the community.	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#413
LOL! Uh, I didn't say your father hunted with armor piercing ammuntion...	Marengo	Jul 2012	#414
You gave up on respectful conversation in your last post.	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#415
Nothing "percieved" about it, my knowledge is superior to yours on this subject	Marengo	Aug 2012	#417
Oh, and I wouldn't listen to a word of what you would have to say...	Marengo	Aug 2012	#419
I will quote you:	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#411
No.	OrwellwasRight	Jul 2012	#412
Do you understand what's been explained to you...	Marengo	Aug 2012	#418
Reid voted against the '94 AWB, the moonbats have never forgotten that.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#230
K & R thank you for posting this	rollin74	Jul 2012	#232
Thank you for posting this as well..	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#237
What needs to be said?	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#242
Lol	Union Scribe	Jul 2012	#262
In other words, you fail to support your claims.	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#394
Lol	Union Scribe	Jul 2012	#398
The search bar.	Clames	Jul 2012	#311
Ah, the usual Internet cop out.	HuckleB	Jul 2012	#395
Cop out? HAHAHAA	Clames	Jul 2012	#396
Here, allow me to explain...	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#255
As usual, Scootaloo, you get to the core of this issue.	Pholus	Jul 2012	#280
Well said. nt	Chorophyll	Jul 2012	#297
"Something like 20 minutes after news broke about Aurora, there were posts on DU..."	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#384
+ brazillion.	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#416
I guess some of us...	liberalmuse	Jul 2012	#257
So. How. Do. You. Propose. To. Eliminate, Over. 250,000,000. Of. Them? n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#266
By challenging their bloviating loudly.	Pholus	Jul 2012	#285
That's not an answer. I'm asking about the actual mechanism of tracking down and seizing	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#337
And that is why you fail...	Pholus	Jul 2012	#355
So typical. I don't think you've thought this through and point it out,	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#356
Oh, PUH-LEASE nothing is typical about this.	Pholus	Jul 2012	#357
To quote; "... if they dare suggest gun control, never mind banning them altogether."	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#361
All too easy...	Pholus	Jul 2012	#368
DIdn't say that either, but please, do go on. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#370
And still the question remains unanswered. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#372
And considering how you hijacked the discussion to ask it, you won't be getting an answer.	Pholus	Jul 2012	#393
"conflates deer rifles with modded AR-15's"	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#386
You don't understand animosity at DU?	jberryhill	Jul 2012	#259
K&R	cliffordu	Jul 2012	#261
A lot of them are condescending douchebags who wave their guns in our face after people are killed.	Evoman	Jul 2012	#264
"douchebags who wave their guns in our face after people are killed"	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#387
You monster! Thanks for trying. K&R	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#265
My wife was similar to your friends	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#326
Women are usually the best shots in my experience. I think its funny as hell	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#333
Oh.... okay...	MrMickeysMom	Jul 2012	#283
we should have nothing but respect for all the gun owners who stand up to the gun nuts of the NRA	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2012	#286
What specific "tough, strict gun control laws" do I have to support....	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#388
I'm sorry, but this is an "emotional" argument. NT	Democracyinkind	Jul 2012	#287
I imagine the animosity is more towards the intractable dogmas held...	LanternWaste	Jul 2012	#298
I have no animosity.	xmas74	Jul 2012	#299
I don't either. I don't own a gun, and hope never to have to.	Taverner	Jul 2012	#303
Animosity? Animals have a right to have their own city.	L0oniX	Jul 2012	#304
Guns freak me out. I wouldn't even want to touch one	lightworker at work	Jul 2012	#328
While I admire and appreciate your stance, I have to ask....	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#389
I don't understand the animosity	LWolf	Jul 2012	#335
Not gun OWNERS, gun NUTS	Lydia Leftcoast	Jul 2012	#336
I don't really think there are any of those left anymore. n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#390
I hate guns but if people are responsible with them	marlakay	Jul 2012	#338
"tighten up the rules" - In CA there is a 10-day waiting period (?????????????)	Tejas	Jul 2012	#351
Marta and I own a few	Omaha Steve	Jul 2012	#340
Semi-auto guns have been around since the 1920s	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#347
So you were sold a gun.	Scruffy1	Jul 2012	#353
98% of gun-haters are Republican.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#376
"The crap I hear about self defense is just that."	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#391
You reap what you sow	Warpy	Jul 2012	#392
Silliness	andyv2k14	Jul 2012	#401
I do you support a terrorist bully organization: the nra	gopiscrap	Jul 2012	#402
I have 12 guns, none of which have killed anyone while in my possesion.	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#407
I agree. And when I've had a non-gun owner question, the DU folks	gateley	Jul 2012	#403

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