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Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
21. Social Security was implemented to supplement your retirement income.
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 06:44 PM
Dec 2017

Not be only income. Pensions were supposed to be the dominant retirement income...however, the cost to administrate them have been shooting through the roof...almost on purpose to eliminate them.

Company I work for is freezing theirs this year. I'm grandfathered in the defined benefit plan, but a few years back, they switched to defined contribution for the newer employee's...now they are eliminating it and contributing 3% extra to the 401k, no need to match. Granted, they match up to 6% currently...but you still have to match. But I told the younger employee's....just wait in five years, they will change it and you'll have to match it. Yes that means the company will match up to 9%...but you still have to contribute...whereas in the past you didn't.

And I wouldn't be surprised later if they tie the extra 3% to the companies performance. They did that years ago with the bonus, with the usual BS "Oh but if we exceed our goals, your bonus will even be larger than before!" Take note, we've yet to meet all our goals and have continued to receive less than what we got before.

How did they lose their pensions? MichMan Dec 2017 #1
Working for a set time is common in the education industry n2doc Dec 2017 #7
They worked in an aircraft manufacturing plant MichMan Dec 2017 #8
I don't know the details n2doc Dec 2017 #10
Lots of workers would opt for a 401k match but they just don't have the means to do so. CTyankee Dec 2017 #12
Yes. klook Dec 2017 #32
I never worked anywhere that offered a pension plan until recently- dawg day Dec 2017 #33
It was unhappy for me that my brother (who was co-inheritor of my parents' estate) CTyankee Dec 2017 #37
It takes much less than that to be vested shanti Dec 2017 #17
I remember some unions bargained pensions away NotASurfer Dec 2017 #11
That's the wrong question maxrandb Dec 2017 #14
A lot of places don't offer pensions anymore. That has been since the 80's MiniMe Dec 2017 #16
401k's came in with the 1978 Revenue Act. former9thward Dec 2017 #29
Interesting read, but looking at the timeline at the link, MiniMe Dec 2017 #34
I agree; used to work in pension industry spooky3 Dec 2017 #18
In cases of bankruptcy sarah FAILIN Dec 2017 #22
Employers can under some circumstances terminate spooky3 Dec 2017 #24
Republic Steel did: dawg day Dec 2017 #35
I was puzzled by the guy working 29 years and then no pension. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #19
Look up Bethlehem Steel pensions... Hekate Dec 2017 #23
PBS Frontline did a good documentary on this spooky3 Dec 2017 #25
Except, if the Bethleham Steel retirees had a 401k, they wouldn't have lost all their retirement $$ MichMan Dec 2017 #27
Are you a blue collar worker with a high school/community college education? Just curious. nt Hekate Dec 2017 #28
Always worked in manufacturing plants MichMan Dec 2017 #30
THIS is why Social Security is increasingly important. Cut or take THAT away too and ... CousinIT Dec 2017 #2
excellent post NJCher Dec 2017 #5
I thought WalMart did away w/the greeters. I haven't seen one for years. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #3
I'm always amazed Brainstormy Dec 2017 #4
Yep. Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #9
Didn't Charles Dickens describe it as... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #6
GOP Solution: Don't be old and non-rich ck4829 Dec 2017 #13
Its even worse that you think... BSdetect Dec 2017 #15
I can't see the whole story due to the paywall but... VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #20
Social Security was implemented to supplement your retirement income. Xolodno Dec 2017 #21
Our healthcare and retirement are at the mercy of corrupt and greedy corporations. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #26
Yes you can lose a pension if it is not a Defined Benefit Pension insured by doc03 Dec 2017 #31
Pension? What is a pension? Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #36
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