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high-capacity 'clips' (magazines) were not 'banned', you could always buy them... PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #1
From the ProSense Jul 2012 #2
they weren't sold illegally belcffub Jul 2012 #4
Thanks for pointing that out. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #11
In fact, that wasn't even the extent of the truth. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #201
It was perfectly legal to sell high-capacity magazines that were manufactured before the 'ban'... PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #7
and that is a key point HankyDub Jul 2012 #59
Rachel Madow made the same mistakes when reporting on the AWB... aikoaiko Jul 2012 #108
Yep, gun manufacturers and those coveting such guns took advantage of the "loopholes". Sounds like Hoyt Jul 2012 #138
It was a stupid law and manufacturers complied with the stupidity. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #158
It's also worth pointing out that the AR-15 was never banned. sofa king Jul 2012 #117
The legal/illegal versions michreject Jul 2012 #191
Thus illustrating just how idiotic the AWB really was. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #193
The mag on the illegal one would be illegal michreject Jul 2012 #196
Do they make them in 6.8 SPC? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #197
No michreject Jul 2012 #203
Aw. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #207
Good reason to buy one in 5.56 michreject Jul 2012 #208
Right. This entire original post is simply incorrect. nt naaman fletcher Jul 2012 #194
The headline, at least, is simply incorrect. sofa king Jul 2012 #195
new rks306 Jul 2012 #186
What in the world is a "multi-clip"? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #187
It's the new gun control buzz word. permatex Jul 2012 #210
If you want to assume that a mass killer would have respected the gun laws, then perhaps bluestateguy Jul 2012 #3
Without getting into the specifics of gun control legislation... ljm2002 Jul 2012 #35
Not at all. Most people simply don't understand the purpose of laws. PavePusher Jul 2012 #56
Again, I was not discussing gun control laws per se... ljm2002 Jul 2012 #84
the *effect* of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal DBoon Jul 2012 #161
the *effect* of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #202
Illegal items are more difficult to procure and more expensive DBoon Jul 2012 #150
Want to buy a Rolex? sofa king Jul 2012 #216
Just because someone is a mass killer doesn't mean we should allow them to legally buy weapons TNLib Jul 2012 #164
There was and is no proof he is mentally ill obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #172
Yes there is. Nostradammit Jul 2012 #185
YAY, let's promote Republican ideals! Tejas Jul 2012 #5
Simply false. The AWB was passed by a Democratic Congress and signed into law apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #8
Oh, in that case, YAY, let's lose everything this November! Tejas Jul 2012 #14
Your concession that you posted false information in the reply above is noted, apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #16
That an AWB is a Republican ideal is not false, I posted links to their website. Tejas Jul 2012 #26
It is false: the AWB was a progressive ideal, passed by a Democratic Congress apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #30
I'm speaking of the current call for an AWB. Tejas Jul 2012 #37
No, you weren't, but even if you had been that assertion is false, also. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #39
"renewal" - thank you for admitting this is current affairs. Tejas Jul 2012 #50
As no one ever denied it, your reply is once again non-responsive & irrelevant. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #52
so why did Republicans vote for it? gejohnston Jul 2012 #136
Once again: the AWB was passed by a Democratic Congress, and signed into law apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #139
It was a "progressive ideal." Because it was signed by Clinton? It was a progressive as NAFTA. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #44
Proposed by liberal Democrats in Congress; passed by a Democratic Congress; signed apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #48
If you want to feel sorry, you can feel sorry for not being able to distinguish liberals and AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #62
Like I said above, sorry you don't seem to like progressives or liberals much, apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #65
Do you have a comprehension problem? You are repeating yourself, unnecessarily so. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #66
Ahhh, now the "comprehension" card emerges, in lieu of saying anything on point. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #68
My words mean exactly what they said. They were exactly on point. If you don't understand, AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #78
They were not on point and, hence, there is no need to "re-read" them. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #81
The NRA supports an AWB? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #96
Who told you that? I hope they don't really think you're that stupid. Tejas Jul 2012 #209
The 'Individual Mandate' is RW policy passed by'dems'. It happens. DLC=GOP Edweird Jul 2012 #47
Well let's finish the thought here nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #31
Let's also get a clue, you ever heard of Harry Reid? Tejas Jul 2012 #87
Yup, and your point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #95
My point is to give you a clue that all Dems do not look at NRA as the plague. Tejas Jul 2012 #100
We know that, and again your point? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #103
So, the Bradyes support the AWB Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #206
Actually that is his contention nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #215
The $1,000,000 free money they get MIGHT be a clue? Tejas Jul 2012 #212
The NRA *overwhelmingly* contributes money and resources to defeat Democrats apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #127
Some Democrats have actually rated very high on the NRA's scale DBoon Jul 2012 #153
Yes, and water is wet (you DO know who Harry Reid is don't you???) Tejas Jul 2012 #174
Remind me who runs the NRA again? HankyDub Jul 2012 #85
Remind me of why I should care? Tejas Jul 2012 #89
Because when you're pushing bullshit HankyDub Jul 2012 #90
No need to deceive, Jim Brady IS (not "was") an R. Tejas Jul 2012 #91
Sarah Palin is for an AWB too? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #98
Sarah Brady, Jims wife rl6214 Jul 2012 #113
The campaign is named after a Republican who spent the better part of his life in a wheelchair... Hippo_Tron Jul 2012 #99
as to the rest of the Repubs on the company roster? Tejas Jul 2012 #102
False, again. Per usual. The vast majority of board members are progressive Democrats. n/t. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #126
Oh, like Helmke the Republican Mayor? Tejas Jul 2012 #163
Your point was obliterated by the logical fact that Brady has a reason to be for gun control Demit Jul 2012 #144
Republican wimpy do-gooders CynicalOtto Jul 2012 #119
You sure don't seem like a Democrat brentspeak Jul 2012 #205
And a Ruger Mini-14 wasn't. A superior weapon that fires the same round. No points for you. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #6
Right ProSense Jul 2012 #9
Clearly I do. You're the one trying to score political points from this. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #17
Oh, bullshit ProSense Jul 2012 #20
Right back atcha. Re-read your title and tell me again that you didn't write this to score points Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #34
Wait ProSense Jul 2012 #40
But you put it up here. Are you now saying that you disagree with it? Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #49
Yes, ProSense Jul 2012 #54
It was intended to be silly. The point remains that the ban would have had no effect Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #70
"superior weapon" went right over his head Tejas Jul 2012 #104
The AR15 could not have "remained" illegal because it was NOT illegal rl6214 Jul 2012 #114
I took the OP's word that the Colt was on the list. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #115
Yes, we do know more. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #183
So, the death and maiming by gunfire of scores of people is a game to you, is it? apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #12
I'm not the one trying to score political poo-flinging points from another tragedy. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #15
Commenting on the insanity that is America's lack of effective gun control laws apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #22
Your prejudice is showing. What America lacks is a sane social structure and explicit contract. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #41
My "prejudice" against tens of thousands of needless deaths every year apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #46
Yes, this guy was clearly concerned with obeying the law. Again, you cling to a fantasy Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #58
You "cling" to the fantasy that more effective gun control laws don't work. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #63
You should go see Bowling for Columbine again. Michael Moore does a good job of addressing the Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #73
Yada-yada-yada. Whatever: when you decide to post something on point, get back with me. n/t. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #74
So you have nothing, as usual. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #79
Nope: you just haven't bothered to reply to it with anything substantive. As usual. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #82
You're the one that jumped in with your dissembling and assignation of motivations Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #101
Nope: sorry you missed my original reply. I'll re-post it here for your perusal: apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #105
Shall we repeat the entire sub-thread. The expressed opinion still misses Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #116
Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #124
I am curious about your ideas on effective gun controls. Please be specific and detailed. johnnytoobad Jul 2012 #181
The "points" meme comes from a certain jackass that posts in the Gungeon. Tejas Jul 2012 #18
Oh, so it's a Gungeon "game." Haven't been down there in a while. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #19
The troll that invented the system is proud. Tejas Jul 2012 #28
Uh-huh. Riiiiiiggghht... apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #42
Stop by the Gungeon, it's there for all to see. Tejas Jul 2012 #51
Nope, it's not. But it's cute to pretend, I guess. n/t. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #57
lets go down the list, shall we? beevul Jul 2012 #121
Nope: it doesn't clear anything up, except your ability to post pointless links. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #131
Thats ok, its there for those with an open mind... beevul Jul 2012 #179
This TEC-9 trumps your Mini-14 Tejas Jul 2012 #55
But an AK-47 trumps everything Tejas Jul 2012 #60
Manufacture of normal capacity magazines was banned under the late (unlamented) AWB, Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #10
"He had a high-capacity clip, which were banned as 'large capacity ammunition feeding devices' "? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #23
A search through the Brownells online catalog shows that it doesn't sell any clips. Only magazines. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #33
That's what I say. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #38
That's a 100 round Beta-C magazine. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #88
The ban expired in 2004. Millions of normal capacity magazines have been manufactured since. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #25
Some people seem to think that there is a difference between clips and magazines. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #36
Well...there is a difference, as your link points out. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #45
Did you see the word "If"? It's there. Manufacturers decide the limits to place upon stipper clips AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #53
While I'll grant that there's a practical limit to the size of a stripper clip, I was speaking of a Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #67
There is also 2-round stripper clip which is sometimes used for NRA matches (8 & 2 to mimic a M1) AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #77
The 100 round circular magazine was what allowed Holmes to shoot so many people so quickly. Major Hogwash Jul 2012 #21
C-Mags have been around long before the AWB NickB79 Jul 2012 #64
Germans used C-mags for their MG-42s during WWII Kaleva Jul 2012 #204
Which is relatively meaningless. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2012 #24
Quit it. That is logical fact reasoning and not acceptable here! RegieRocker Jul 2012 #32
And it probably wouldn't have stopped this nutcase from getting one. WillowTree Jul 2012 #27
That is true, but would he still have had one? Rex Jul 2012 #43
Bad reporting. Millions of AR-15's were made and sold during the AWB NickB79 Jul 2012 #61
Oh. but no! There is no such thing as an "assault weapon" Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #69
True. Congress tried to define it. Assault RIFLE is a real thing. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #80
Exactly obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #159
Thank you. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #83
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #71
zacks a dumbass if he believes what he wrote. ileus Jul 2012 #72
OH NO, did it have a bayonet lug, flash suppressor and a pistol grip?! THE HORROR AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #76
Such a red herring. Daemonaquila Jul 2012 #86
And this would have mattered.. sendero Jul 2012 #92
I know ProSense Jul 2012 #93
And while we are at it.. sendero Jul 2012 #94
I know ProSense Jul 2012 #97
Gun Ban ? That's crazy clint55 Jul 2012 #106
When something happens this sudden and fast, in the dark, with tear gas... arcane1 Jul 2012 #107
Amurikans don't want no god-damned legislation banning their semi-automatic indepat Jul 2012 #109
This is absolutely untrue. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #110
He could have used one of these krispos42 Jul 2012 #111
Neither the AR15 nor the high-capacity (clip) magazine were banned under the 94 AWB rl6214 Jul 2012 #112
Comon Sense CynicalOtto Jul 2012 #118
What kind of surprised me was the 6,000 rounds. Seems that would have triggered some interest. freshwest Jul 2012 #120
and he supposedly bought his ammo over the internet! DBoon Jul 2012 #155
Whoa, that adds a new dimension to the case. It makes oversight by state laws or vendorsirrelevant. freshwest Jul 2012 #169
What's to stop him from buying a different gun? JonLP24 Jul 2012 #122
He could have bought an AR-15 anyway, just without a couple features that had no bearing on the atta AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #182
Another Update DallasNE Jul 2012 #123
I would like to give DallasNE some recognition for an amazing mish-mash of incorrect information slackmaster Jul 2012 #125
Thanks Slackmaster! It amazes me the crap people pull out concerning guns. n-t Logical Jul 2012 #128
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #130
Openly mocking actual progressive DU members with a Freeper talking point, i.e., apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #134
You missed my point. There are posters who feign ignorance on DU in order to make DU look stupid. slackmaster Jul 2012 #142
I agree. Where are the rational arguments? n-t Logical Jul 2012 #137
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #133
The expired "assault weapons ban" was not the Brady Law slackmaster Jul 2012 #140
My Post Was On Ammo DallasNE Jul 2012 #152
And it was WRONG in every respect on ammo slackmaster Jul 2012 #156
This message was self-deleted by its author permatex Jul 2012 #162
Armor piercing ammo is perfectly legal to buy over the internet. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #165
My bad permatex Jul 2012 #168
I have not read any "cop killer ammo" was used obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #167
As defined by gun grabbers, all .223 is "cop killer ammo", Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #176
Hey clueless, read closer..... Logical Jul 2012 #141
Who's Clueless - My Post Was On Ammo DallasNE Jul 2012 #154
No. gejohnston Jul 2012 #143
You really need to stop and research before you post permatex Jul 2012 #145
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #160
You said that the ammo he used was banned under the Brady law that bush let expire permatex Jul 2012 #166
There is no reason to personally attack anyone like that obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #171
Two different laws. atreides1 Jul 2012 #148
You sound about as clueless as this congresswoman permatex Jul 2012 #151
I give Carolyn McCarthy a pass, because of her son and husband obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #170
If she weren't in a position to craft laws permatex Jul 2012 #173
I understand your POV, so we will have to agree to disagree on this obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #178
There is no such thing JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #129
Come on, we all know that there are now micro-chips inserted into bullets GarroHorus Jul 2012 #135
I have a friend that works at the gun counter in a Cabelas store, he said the doc03 Jul 2012 #132
What idiot told you Obama is going to ban the most popular-selling longarm in US history? Tejas Jul 2012 #147
That was just sarcasm, don't you know the NRA has been pushing that doc03 Jul 2012 #149
Sorry, 95% of gunowners do NOT belong to the NRA. Tejas Jul 2012 #157
The Sickest Day elbloggoZY27 Jul 2012 #146
I doubt the USA is the most violent nation in the world obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #175
We're not even it the top 10 permatex Jul 2012 #177
5.56 or .223 ammo is the reason more did not die chapel hill dem Jul 2012 #180
If I've gotta get shot by something, I'm definitely going to opt for .223 over anythign .30 cal. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #184
The fact is that these rules were never really enforced rudycantfail Jul 2012 #188
How were they not enforced? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #189
People who wanted to get assault weapons rudycantfail Jul 2012 #190
That's because the Assault Weapons Ban didn't make it illegal to purchase assault weapons. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #192
Point made and taken rudycantfail Jul 2012 #198
It was a stupid law then and it would be a stupid law now. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #199
Again, I want a law to do what this law claimed it would do - ban assault weapons. rudycantfail Jul 2012 #213
We'll have to agree to disagree on the need for such a law. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #214
So, were you going to update the title and contents of your post with the truth, or what? AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #200
Colt simply changed the name and modified the gun in order to continue selling the AR-15 Kaleva Jul 2012 #211
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