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FSogol

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Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:26 AM

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Democrats were played on the debt ceiling [View all] pimpbot Dec 2017 OP

At times... Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #1

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #6

How? Because we're in the minority and couldn't stop it. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #10

I didnt intend it to come across as bashing... Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #29

And why is that? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #52

Comey, Russia and voter suppression uponit7771 Dec 2017 #54

It is not "bashing." It is criticizing pangaia Dec 2017 #77

It is bashing if it's unfair or unwarranted criticism, which this is. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #90

They couldn't stop it because they don't have any power in any branch of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #24

Well .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #2

The debt ceiling should have been barely raised. David__77 Dec 2017 #3

What are you talking about? Dems got $8 Billion in hurricane relief out of the deal. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #12

Exactly. brer cat Dec 2017 #39

The US got hurricane relief pimpbot Dec 2017 #40

Holding the the full faith and credit of the US government hostage isn't a good idea tritsofme Dec 2017 #56

I think it should have covered a shorter duration of time. David__77 Dec 2017 #41

What difference would that have made? SunSeeker Dec 2017 #67

Completely agree. They should have held the approval of funds until... kysrsoze Dec 2017 #4

What are you talking about? Dems didn't "approve funds" for the GOP tax scam bill. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #19

I suspect you know as much about the legislative process as the o.p. A handful here have finally... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #66

Interesting how the leadership spoke forcefully with such clarity and resolve on the Franken matter dalton99a Dec 2017 #5

Dem leadership was quite clear and forceful in opposing the GOP tax scam bill. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #20

Amazing how some still feel the need to blame the Democrats for GOP bills...but why? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #92

Wow. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #7

Hear, hear. We are proud Democrats and should stick together. Now, more than ever. secondwind Dec 2017 #15

It's just more divide & conquer bullshit, and yet it made to the front page with 5 recs. Go figure. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #17

How is this post even still up? "incompetent losers"? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #26

How is this hit post still up? "incompetent losers"? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #27

I apologize pimpbot Dec 2017 #33

Translation: The Republicans suck, but I wanna blame the Democrats! FSogol Dec 2017 #36

What Democrat is working with the Republicans on this? herding cats Dec 2017 #8

repubs have the votes. dems not needed. no leverage there nt msongs Dec 2017 #9

Are you trying to blame the GOP tax scam bill on Democrats?! SunSeeker Dec 2017 #11

Thank you gabeana Dec 2017 #18

Yeah ... LOTS to pick at the dems on, but this is a fantasy Cosmocat Dec 2017 #30

Look, pimpbot... radical noodle Dec 2017 #13

I get so tired of coming here and having to read shit like this. "Incompetent losers"? Are you... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #14

I'm tired of it too, Tarheel_Dem. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #21

+1 n/t FSogol Dec 2017 #37

It gets really, really old Hekate Dec 2017 #62

Is this a hit & run? You posted 3 hours ago, and you have no further comments? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #16

Hit and run I think. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #23

I think the "bot" part in his/her screen name is probably accurate, too. GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #32

Yathink? Unless it's supposed to be all ironic and stuff. Hekate Dec 2017 #63

I went to sleep pimpbot Dec 2017 #34

Then specifically why are you doing anything but that? LanternWaste Dec 2017 #45

Why I don't know...we have so much power and all... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #22

Not trying to drive numbers down pimpbot Dec 2017 #35

Whether you intend to or not.. radical noodle Dec 2017 #43

Pure supposition about Kirsten who is not on my presidential primary list... we don't help Repugs Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47

We're in the minority. There's only so much you can do. Tatiana Dec 2017 #25

You need power to go in for the kill. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #28

We had it and we still acquiesed to the other side. Tatiana Dec 2017 #50

When did we reach across the aisle? We got what we could and then the left left who whine even now Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #58

Democrats.aren't.killers Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #42

What you see as a killer instinct, I see as a lack of character. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #46

Sweet Georgia Brown! RandiFan1290 Dec 2017 #31

Shut It Down spanone Dec 2017 #38

Shut It Down member12 Dec 2017 #88

I think you've been played. No Democratic congressman or Senator supported the bill. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #44

Oh FFS... SidDithers Dec 2017 #48

Hi Sid! SunSeeker Dec 2017 #65

A majority of the Americans do no like this tax bill...the message has been hammered BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #49

Or allowed themselves to be played. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #51

Wrong Hekate Dec 2017 #64

Debt ceiling and the deficit ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #53

Thats Always RobinA Dec 2017 #80

Be careful. old guy Dec 2017 #55

Me Too RobinA Dec 2017 #81

Yup. old guy Dec 2017 #93

The debt ceiling should always be lifted and shouldn't be a political football. pnwmom Dec 2017 #57

We play chess, they clear the board with a hammer Generic Brad Dec 2017 #59

That, is the only thing they understand. Many democrats are too meek IMO. We now need an RKP5637 Dec 2017 #78

Nonsense. I suspect you know less about politics than you think. SharonClark Dec 2017 #60

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer pimpbot Dec 2017 #74

Repeat after me: Democrats are a MINORITY party. We HAVE no "leverage." Nobody "caves"... Hekate Dec 2017 #61

They voted to raise the debt ceiling pimpbot Dec 2017 #70

So are you pushing for a government shutdown? Really? Hekate Dec 2017 #89

The fuck, what hogwarts incantation were Democrats supposed to unleash to get "leverage"..???? JHan Dec 2017 #68

Garbage, Pimpot. Such contempt for Democrats Hortensis Dec 2017 #69

The contempt is for the spineless leadership pimpbot Dec 2017 #71

You agree with all our Republican friends. Hortensis Dec 2017 #91

We're keeping our powder dry dflprincess Dec 2017 #72

Another episode of "blaming Dems for Rs atrocities" mcar Dec 2017 #73

Agree. And, as we've seen before, sometimes these decisions backfire on us question everything Dec 2017 #75

As a minority party it does not have many arrows in the quiver it can use. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #76

We had everything when Obama first started his first term, and then progressively lost it. I'm not RKP5637 Dec 2017 #79

We lost it, in part, because purists on the left mcar Dec 2017 #82

It's a hard lesson! I hope so too! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #83

... mcar Dec 2017 #85

I sure hope we remember that in 2018 and beyond. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #87

We only had a short window of time to make anything happen. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #94

Yep, it would have been far different if that window had not closed so quickly. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #95

Wow you did obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2017 #84

Screw it. Shut the government down if we have to. member12 Dec 2017 #86