Beyond the trivialities of what is an assault weapon and what is not

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3. Thank you grantcart. I'm sure you're gonna get the hair-splitters by the droves

trying to "shoot down" your arguments. Too broad-brush, or you don't understand, or it's legal, or those were Illegal, or this magazine is okay because it's whatever, or that gun isn't an assault rifle or weapon or whatever gymnastics they wanna play with the semantics here. They'll always talk their way around whatever valid points you make and somehow label them invalid.

Well, grantcart, they're NOT invalid. Not at all. I don't care how the Second Amendment folks try to dance around this. To me they can't. To me they lose before they even open their mouths. To me they're just simply and flatly WRONG. And they cling to the Second Amendment like a bunch of george zimmermans, unapologetic and proud as can be in their purported rectitude. And somehow they all avoid or ignore the "WELL-REGULATED MILITIA" phrase in that same Second Amendment. What I "love" is how many times I've made that point to some gun-lover and the response is always some version of "oh, no, that's not what it means at all! You see, what they were REALLY talking about was..." Or "oh, no. That doesn't apply. That only applies to..." Or "well, what you don't understand is what that REALLY means here, which is..." Which, frankly, is nothing but BULLSHIT. The founder weren't talking about assault weapons or AK 47s or WHATEVER you want to call them or rename them or somehow jabber-jaw your way around what they really are. Or, splitting hairs further, it wasn't the GUN so much as it was the magazine clip or cartridge or whatever the verbiage is regarding those add-ons that allow you to mow a crowd down in 30 seconds to a minute.

I don't fucking CARE! These guns are WRONG. They're NOTHING but BAD. There is NOTHING good or beneficial or "keeping me safe" about them. They're just damage and mass-murder and bad and WRONG. That's all they are! And NO fast-talking or hair-splitting or slippery-sloping or jabber-jawing or mewling about the Second Amendment and how they get to stand their ground and whatever slick (and SICK) opportunistic murderous talking points the NRA comes up with this hour will change my mind. I don't want to hear their rationales. NONE of them will convince me otherwise. Not EVER.

And frankly, the massacre on Friday night would NOT have been stopped by some law-abiding concealed carry person in the audience. First the guy threw TEAR GAS. Okay? Would any of those concealed-carry zealots have been in that theater with their own gas masks on, too? So they could see through the tear gas and shoot the killer? Yeah, sure. In that packed theater with the lights low and the movie still playing so all this weird flickering light would have been enlivening the billowing clouds of tear gas in everybody's faces, noses, and eyes? How would everyone not be choking and gasping - WHILE they were stampeding in sheer panic, with barrages of 100-shots-a-minute bullets flying everywhere? Oh I'm just SURE somebody else with a gun woulda nailed that killer and just fixed it all, wouldn't they? Some latter-day Wyatt Earp wannabe woulda saved the day, for sure! In THOSE conditions. I've also heard that there WAS someone with a concealed weapon AT the Gabrielle Giffords event when the shooting erupted there. He was unable to do anything to stop the perpetrator there, mainly because, in the chaos that ensued - even in an open parking lot area in the light of day - he couldn't be sure he'd get the actual gunman, or manage to do so without accidently shooting some innocent bystanders too. Plus the fear of what the cops might do when they arrived at the scene and saw HIM with a gun, and mistake HIM for the perpetrator. That IS not the solution.