LaMouffette
LaMouffette's JournalWhen the blessed day comes when Typhoid Trump is out of office, could families of Covid victims file
a massive wrongful death class-action lawsuit against him in civil court, in other words, in a state court, so that no pardon would apply (although if he's out of office, I guess that wouldn't be a concern anymore, right?).
Can you imagine? By January 20, there could be 500,000 Covid victims, so a possible 500,000-count wrongful death suit.
I'm not a lawyer, so not sure how these class-action lawsuits work, but it's how the Brown and Goldberg families got some bit of justice for the wrongful deaths of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldberg.
OJ Simpson has yet to pay the millions he owes from the settlement and it's a foregone conclusion that Trump would never pay up. But this murderer needs to be hounded for the rest of his sad, pathetic, stupid life and reminded daily that he is responsible for the deaths of half a million Americans and for the shattered lives of millions of Americans who lost family members because this callous idiot lied about the seriousness of the disease and failed to take action to mitigate its spread.
Laurence Tribe just explained on Lawrence O'Donnell why Trump could not self-pardon.
Tribe's reasoning was that it would violate the next article that says the president must faithfully execute the laws. He added that if presidents knew they were able to self-pardon, then they would come into office knowing they could get away with anything, since a self-pardon made them essentially above the law.
That was reassuring, until I remembered that it doesn't matter if Trump can't self-pardon because he can just resign and have Mike Pence pardon him instead.
Which made me wonder: How on God's green earth is it Constitutional, then, for a vice president to be able to pardon the president for whom he served? Isn't that almost exactly the same as the president doing a self-pardon?
And why, after Ford pardoned Nixon, didn't Congress pass a law to ensure that a vice president could not pardon a criminal president ever again?
I guess this explains why Roger Stone has that stupid-ass tattoo of Nixon on his back. At least something makes sense.
Goodnight, DUers!
Regarding Trump's pay-for-pardon scheme: Could the House bring impeachment charges in 50 days?
The president's pardon power is absolute except in cases of impeachment, right? If the House could fast-track an impeachment in December, and then the Senate voted to convict and remove him (and yes, I know that's unlikely), then maybe all of those corrupt pardons would be nullified.
Even if the Senate failed to convict Trump, another impeachment trial would at least bring this latest outrage out in the open.
Even as I write this, I know this plan is dead in the water, coming so close to Biden's inauguration. Still, you would think somehow, someway that justice would find a way to prevail.
It just makes me ill to think of the incredulous glee Trump must have felt when his lawyers first explained to him the power of the pardon: "I can pardon ANYBODY?! For ANYTHING? Nooooo! Really???? Really???? Even MYSELF?????
I'm so sick of individuals being vested with supreme power over vital government functions.
Like Emily Murphy having the supreme power to hold up the presidential transition. And Mitch McConnell having the supreme power to bring or refuse to bring bills passed by the House to the floor of the Senate. And Trump having the supreme power of granting top level security clearances—even when people like Jared and Ivanka have been denied clearances because they pose a threat to national security—and the supreme power to grant blanket pardons and to discard by executive order programs like the Iran Nuclear Treaty, which took hundreds of person-hours and massive diplomacy measures to enact. And state electors having the sole power of ignoring the majority of voters in their state and acting as "faithless electors."
Is this seriously what The Founders had in mind??? Just like capitalism running wildly out of control due to deregulation, the federal government is running amok from unregulated power in the hands of individuals and in one political party—the majority one.
The only "supreme" power in government should be the Supreme Court, and even that has the power of decision-making spread out over nine individuals (ostensibly), not just one.
This is nuts. We need a major injection of checks-and-balances before the next Trump gets elected.
The House Oversight Committee should subpoena Emily Murphy to come testify immediately.
And if she ignores the subpoena, hold her in contempt of Congress and arrest her.
She needs to publicly explain her refusal to formally recognize President-Elect Joe Biden and release the funds needed to carry out the transition to the new administration.
I don't think her excuses would hold up very well against Katie Porter and her whiteboard.
Trump voters get absolutely rabid at the idea of welfare recipients getting paid for doing nothing,
just watching TV all day long, stuffing their faces with food they bought with SNAP money, and not doing any work at all.
"Those lazy, good-fer-nothin' sons-of-bitches! I work my ass off all day long, and they don't do nothin'!"
So how is it they tolerate this behavior from Trump? Doesn't it make them the tiniest bit angry that Trump does NO work whatsoever?
Carrots and sticks: Biden should announce $3,000/month checks during a two-month lockdown.
And if a governor refuses to enforce the lockdown and/or mask mandate, the residents in her/his state do not get the checks. Even Trump's literally die-hard followers would probably be open to the idea of a two-month paid vacation.
He has fired Esper. Can Trump fire the Joint Chiefs of Staff and replace them with his loyalists?
We have learned over the past four years that Trump will do ANYTHING in an attempt to get his way. He has some 70 days left in office, and I am getting a bit nervous, what with Esper's firing, and McConnell now seeming to back Trump's refusal to concede, and Martha McSally refusing to concede, and Bill Barr now saying he will start investigations into voter fraud, and the Trump supporters' Million "Maggot" March on Saturday.
Could he be trying to instigate an actual military coup? I don't want to be alarmist. I hope that other DU posters are right and that this is just to create chaos and keep his supporters roiled up so that they vote in the Georgia runoff. I am just looking for reassurance that this is not possible and we will be rid of that repulsive sack of pus on January 20, 2021.
There haven't been mass celebrations across the United States like this since Bin Laden was killed.
Think about THAT, Traitor Trump.
You who declared that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey were celebrating after 9/11.
So elated to see you lose!
Oh, my God! The BLOAT-US is speaking!
He's proclaiming again that he has already won and that there is fraudulent voting. Thankfully, MSNBC cut him off in mid-rant.
Hate . . . him . . . so . . . much!
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