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MrGrieves

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Member since: Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:47 PM
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Thank you for the Heart!

It is much appreciated. I love this site and its community!

I said a lot of stupid racist stuff when I was a KID.


(I apologize for spelling out some very horrible language in this story about myself as a kid.)

I would like to think that I had no idea what I was saying, how hurtful it was, or even what it meant. And for the most part I didnít other than I knew it wasnít ďrightĒ to categorize people. Sadly it wasnít until I was in 8th grade that I realized how stupid I was. I lived on the east side of Saint Paul in the 80ís. This was an area that had recently had many Hmong immigrants. And it was VERY blue collar and had MANY veterans that lived there. Terms like gooks chinks and other things were learned behavior that were used. The thing is that I didnít have any animosity to them. I was friends with almost all of them. But I was engrained to using this disgusting insulting language. I also went to a school where we had autistic kids in the school. As you can imagine hateful things like retard were common. But we interacted, knew them, shared story time and again there was no hate or animosity. We were dumbass kids that SHOULD have known better, but our social environment failed us.

In 8th grade I moved to a different school in a different part of the city and met a friend who heard me casually use one of these insults. And he tore into for it. At first I was shocked at how wrong he said I was, but then the light bulb went on I KNEW I was wrong. Really wrong. I donít know why it took someone shaking me to wake me up. I wasnít someone that didnít befriend so,done because they were a different race or because of any other physical appearance. I absolutely adored MLKís message. My parents were not racist, but there was this awful language that we just... learned.

As a father now I am constantly thinking back to my childhood and I am hawk like in watching for that creeping into my kids lives. Admittedly where I live we are in a bubble,. Affluent, very white, and insanely privileged. I grew up hating the people where I live now...known as cake eater land (Edina for fellow MN DUers) My kids understand that we live in a bubble. They understand what white privilege is, even as I am still striving to understand my privilege every day. But they are growing up in a different time too. There is plenty of hate. There is all the same hurtful language out there and more. But they donít seem to let it seep into their vernacular or how they look at people. I hope it is because I am doing a good job parenting but I also think that even though there is still hate, that we are creating a better social environment for kids to grow up in. I have to hope for that.

In light of the news that has come out in VA I just had to think back about how I was a stupid foul mouthed insulting shit. but I was a stupid impressionable kid that was around a lot of bad insulting language that I didnít really fully understand. That is a far ways from being a 25 year old educated person who should have long since come to grips with their own stupidity and to become comfortable talking about it and finding some way to underscore why that made you a better person today. The fact that he didnít do that leaves me wondering if he ever did really learn anything from his own actions.

Eventually we are going to have to pick a candidate

Thankfully we have a bit of time and right now we have to go through the gristmill of figuring out who that is going to be. The only thing I know is that we arenít going to have a perfect candidate. We likely are going to have to push for them to change their position on something. But I think we need to be real careful about how much weight we give to these imperfections before we do settle on a candidate.Itís one thing to identify faults but we blow them completely out of proportion and we allow the opposition to absolutely divide us.

I am just so tired of that.

Bad actors on forums

Hi. I am writing this here as I didnít want to post it in the general forums and create a big to do there and the admin forum didnít seem to fit either. Anyways, hereís what I have to say. There are a number of bad actors here on the forums. I have ran different internet message board communities for a long time. For a number of different topics. I have dealt with trolls, jerks, and gadflies on far too many occasions and can spot them pretty easily. There are a number of folks here that are intentionally creating division and disruption. I am not talking about people presenting a different side to an issue but people that like to play to our democratic ideals to discredit one and other on these forums. They play by the rules technically but the intent is there to create division and infighting. With the non-moderator set up here I donít know how you go about dealing with it. And I wouldnít say that anything needs to change per se, but rather that I would keep an eye on it.

I know I myself have a low post count but I have been here for a pretty good ampunt of time viewing. I had a different username at one point going back to Bush W.

I haop no offense is taking to me raising this issue as I think you guys do a really good job here. But just wanted to say that as a lingtime admin and moderator of many communities there is a recognizable pattern that caught my attention.

Thanks guys.

Enough

Before the LA Kings MN Wild game last I night I saw something that I have never seen at a sports event. Sure there have been moments of silence and all that but I have never heard an announcer go off like this one did here.

This was good to hear

https://www.foxsports.com/west/story/los-angeles-kings-honor-victims-families-thousand-oaks-shooting-110818?utm_campaign=share_buttons&utm_medium=fscom&utm_content=return_visit&utm_term=story_pinned&utm_source=share_url

Ok so it's time to start looking at flights to washington. Let's go people!

If you can't go to Washington you need to get to your local protests as soon as the word comes down.

This firing (and I do mean firing) of Sessions is the dumbest fucking thing he could do. Many liberals and progressives may have been satiated by the results last night and now he is choosing to light the fire once again.

Fired up! Ready to go!

Evers declared winner by NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-wisconsin-elections.html

Drove my city of Edina, MN

An affluent city suburb of Minneapolis and took inventory of the signs in the yards. I drove probably 80% of the city and the signs are HEAVILY in favor of democrats. This suburb borders Minneapolis which is heavily democratic itself. If other first ring suburbs are the same Minnesota should remain blue. It will do my heart and mind some good when Erik Paulsen is out of office and Dean Phillips is in. Walz should take the governorship here. Feeling Great about a True Blue Minnesota tomorrow night!
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