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Judges have...ruled that Congress has a greater claim to sensitive documents [during impeachment]

As many of us have been saying, if Democrats are serious about getting documents and testimony, they should begin an impeachment inquiry.

Here’s why Democrats may rethink impeaching Trump
Judges have repeatedly ruled that Congress has a greater claim to sensitive documents when it can point to an ongoing legal matter, like impeachment.

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN and JOSH GERSTEIN 05/10/2019 05:02 AM EDT

... there’s another rationale for launching impeachment that has some Democrats reconsidering the idea — getting access to the sensitive documents and testimony that Trump’s team is withholding.

Judges have repeatedly ruled that Congress has a greater claim to sensitive government documents and personal information when it can point to an ongoing legal matter, instead of just a congressional investigation or legislative debate. And impeachment would give lawmakers that legal matter — the process is essentially a court procedure run by Congress where the House brings charges and the Senate holds the trial.
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But legal experts and lawmakers across the ideological spectrum acknowledge that formally unleashing impeachment would bolster Democrats’ arguments that they deserve to see the president’s tax returns, interview senior officials, peruse special counsel Robert Mueller’s trove of evidence and see the details of Trump’s personal dealings with foreign leaders.


Read the rest here:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/10/democrats-impeachment-trump-1315838

Trump Jr. fires back at Burr!

What the heck is going on?

Don Jr’s camp responds to his subpoena with 🔥🔥— calls Burr a ”so-called” Republican who answers to Warner and is pulling an “obvious PR stunt.”


https://twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/1126242524333473792

Wednesday's contempt vote for Barr is not inherent contempt

I think some people are confused about Wednesday's vote to hold Barr in contempt of Congress. This Wednesday's vote is the same thing that Republicans did to Holder. It will get referred to the DOJ where nothing will happen.

I have no idea if the House is considering filing a civil referral to a judge to enforce the subpoenas. This would take a long time.

Inherent contempt is a completely different process. This is a trial in the House. The Sergeant at Arms of the House would first capture and bring the "suspect" to the House for a trial. The trial would be somewhat similar to the Clinton impeachment trial in the Senate. The suspect has the right to defend himself, bring witnesses, etc. It is an actual trial. Then if the House votes that the suspect is guilty, the House can imprison the person.

IMHO, all of these delays need to stop. A formal impeachment inquiry should begin. This could help expedite the process through the courts and make it more likely for judges to enforce the subpoenas.

If there is strong resistance then the House should use inherent contempt against McGahn, Lewandowski, Donaldson, etc. They are private citizens and have far less ability to prevent capture by the House.

North Korea fires short-range missile

There goes Trump's Nobel prize

#BREAKING North Korea fires short-range missile: Yonhap


https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1124474663466258433

Rep. Cicilline goes there! The House should imprison directly. (Added video clip)

Rep. David Ciciliine on Hardball goes there! Tonight he said the House can imprison people directly! And he said the House SHOULD do it if it becomes necessary!

This is fantastic! Finally someone is telling the TRUTH and threatening the use of one of the legitimate powers of the House!

Hardball posted part of the clip:
https://twitter.com/hardball/status/1121561340953407489

Many students walk out at Jeff Sessions speech



Great kids!

Half the students at the Jeff Sessions speech at Amherst College just got up and walked out, holding a rainbow flag.


https://twitter.com/laurakrantz/status/1121205844102852609

Hearing on subpoena of Mazars USA set for May 14th

My god this is going to take forever.

The House Oversight Committee agreed to delay enforcing the subpoena to Trump's accountant, so the judge said Trump's request for a temp. restraining order is moot. Arguments on the preliminary injunction are set for May 14 at 10am.


https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1120769592685682690

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Leading expert says Trump plausibly committed impeachment offenses

All aboard the Impeachment Train!

Trump plausibly committed impeachable offenses. A leading expert explains how.

Philip Bobbitt, the constitutional scholar at Columbia University, is among those who have wrestled most deeply with the complex questions raised by impeachment. He is the co-author of “Impeachment: A Handbook,” which republishes the famous commentary on impeachment by Yale law scholar Charles L. Black Jr. and concludes with Bobbitt’s own discourse on the topic.

I spoke to Bobbitt at length about the latest revelations. The upshot: Bobbitt now believes it’s “plausible” that Trump committed impeachable offenses and that the House of Representatives is obligated to proceed from this premise.
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Coming from Bobbitt, this is notable, because he has long maintained that impeachment must be reserved only for the most extraordinary cases and (as his book argues) that we must approach the question of whether conduct is impeachable with extreme caution.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/22/trump-plausibly-committed-impeachable-offenses-leading-expert-explains-how/

CHOO CHOO! Hop on board the Impeachment Train!

Ladies and gents, the Impeachment Train will soon be leaving the station! Make sure to get your tickets and HOP ON BOARD!

We've got Warren in the Engine and Mueller in the caboose! The ride will include dramatic scenery including Don McGahn repeating the word "shit" and Jody Hunt saying the word "fucked". Watch as Don Jr. explains that he's too stupid to be indicted.

Come and join in on the fun! And note the prominent new passengers:

House Intel chair says Dems may impeach Trump in wake of Mueller report

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1119978356781531136
House Judiciary chairs says Mueller report includes potential grounds for Trump impeachment

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1119984395031666688
House Judiciary Chair Jerry Nadler did not rule out the prospect of impeaching Trump over allegations detailed in the Mueller report, arguing that Congress has to see the full unredacted report.

"Obstruction of justice, if proven, would be impeachable."

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1119994283669504000
Elijah Cummings says that even if the House moves to impeach Trump and the Senate votes against it, "history would smile upon us for standing up for the Constitution."
Via CBS

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1119979107419398144
Finished a second read through the Mueller Report. I don’t say this lightly, as a life long Republican, former R Hill staffer, and someone who has worked on every R campaign and pre-transition team for the last ten years. There is enough here to begin impeachment proceedings.

https://twitter.com/JWVerret/status/1119690984173056001
The reason I’ve never supported @realDonaldTrump is right in front us with the Mueller Report. It’s behavior not fit for a president.

https://twitter.com/JohnKasich/status/1119698898245885952

Cohen says he's ready to talk about the Mueller report, "soon"

Well this is interesting.

As the #Country waits for the #MuellerReport, know this...it does not matter how #Barr #RedactedMuellerReport. @MichaelCohen212 has 7 days, 70 hours, + 100 pages of what #TeamMueller knows and can fill in the bulk of the redactions. Nice try Mr. @POTUS. #Truth We will tell it all


https://twitter.com/LannyDavis/status/1118842329924820992

Soon I will be ready to address the American people again...tell it all...and tell it myself!


https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1118846404582150144
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