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It's a threat to hold over Manchin's head, he's up for reelection in 2024.

Manchin's arrogance comes from the idea that 'nobody but me' can win as a Dem in 'deep red' WV.

But scratch below the surface and it's obvious that WV has a long history of electing Dems to the Senate (Byrd, Rockefeller) and really is a conservative-left state but votes Repub due to social issues. Give them a conservative Dem (who comes across as empathetic, unlike Manchin) like Jim Justice and he'll win easily IMO.

It would be better if Justice would run against Capito (R) at some point for the other seat, so there'd be two Dem Senators from the state.

But the idea is to let Manchin know he's not so special as he likes to think he is.

We need to put pressure on Manchin and pass the bill

in a straight party line vote, with our fabulous Kamala smiling as she gavels it in.

Biden won 81m votes on this agenda, it's what the people support, and it's time to dunk of these fuckers and show them who's boss.

Biden ran on a broad-based liberal agenda and won 81m votes.

Nobody voted for Manchin to control the agenda... this is why our system is so fucked up.

Time to send Kamala back into the state.. even the WV governor said he wants to 'go big' and supports Biden's stimulus as is (iirc).

We need to light stronger fires under the asses of these conservative Dems. Let the mayors, governors and residents of their states know that it is their senators standing in the way of desperately needed relief.

+1. MSNBC/CNN viewers don't care about this shit

and I don't think these networks 'get' this; we're political news people and like seeing our regular shows, especially with so much going on with the confirmation hearings etc.

Anytime a celebrity stubs their toe we get 24/7 coverage similar to the OJ stuff - it's the same reality show environment that led to Trump.

Did Kavanaugh have the 'experience' and temperament'

for a lifetime appointment? Was Trump even remotely 'transparent' or 'steady' to hold the most powerful leadership position in the world?

“The Director of OMB is responsible for overseeing the development and implementation of the federal budget and plays a significant role in any Administration’s fiscal and regulatory agenda. Congress has to be able to trust the OMB director to make countless decisions in an impartial manner, carrying out the letter of the law and congressional intent. Neera Tanden has neither the experience nor the temperament to lead this critical agency. Her past actions have demonstrated exactly the kind of animosity that President Biden has pledged to transcend.

“In addition, Ms. Tanden’s decision to delete more than a thousand tweets in the days before her nomination was announced raises concerns about her commitment to transparency. Should Congress need to review documents or actions taken by OMB, we must have confidence that the Director will be forthcoming.

“The OMB needs steady, experienced, responsive leadership. I will vote against confirming Ms. Tanden.”

— Sen. Susan Collins

What's really going on is white people holding an outspoken woman of color to different standards.

Tanden was 'mean' on Twitter to Bernie people, to Trump people and others - many of whom themselves are known for being 'mean' on Twitter but of course she's the one being taken to task for it.

There are political motivations to taking them down,

not just on the right but on the far-left who views TLP as 'bringing Republicans into the party and pushing us center'. IOW, the anti-TLP forces are fearful of TLP's effectiveness. Biden did better in the suburbs and with independents than Hillary did, with precisely the type of voter that TLP spent alot of time and effort targeting. Biden also did better with new and young voters who don't understand much about politics but do understand toughness and trolling skills.

Politics in this day and age are about winning social media wars and without that people view you as weak or absent from the conversation. TLP stepped up and were visible stars on TV and online - we all knew who they were and they were fearless in taking on the worst of the right wing. Schmidt and Wilson regularly got into it with Don Jr etc delivering serious body blows. They kept the morale of Dems high during the Trump years when everything seemed lost.

+1. This is politically dumb because voters want results.

Voters don't care about bipartanship per se, only results. Repubs know this and want to obstruct or trick conservative Dems into being 'bipartisan' - who Repubs will then run against as 'not producing results'.

Cuomo is a tough Dem and a good executive, de Blasio is a crybaby

and a terrible mayor who should stay out of the kitchen if he can't take the heat.

The entire nursing home 'scandal' is a conspiracy theory cooked up by the far-right on social media, and some on the left have jumped on it in attempt to weaken Cuomo in the 2022 gubernatorial primary.

However, these people don't understand NY politics. NY is liberal but not leftist, and is accustomed to tough politics as long as results are delivered. Cuomo has the state in very good shape considering the conditions; he had to deal not only with a terrible pandemic but with the Trump admin that was out to sabotage him and the attention and praise he received.

As long as the vaccine rollout goes well and herd immunity is achieved by next spring, Cuomo will be easily reelected.

Manchin vs AOC/Kamala/Tanden,

anyone see what his targets all have in common?

His public spats with outspoken women of color are IMO a clear dogwhistle to the voters in his pro-Trump state.

Manchin is a guy who has voted to confirm many terrible white men to powerful positions who were much more 'divisive' than Tanden could ever be. We had a Twitter troll as president who attempted to overthrow democracy. But of course the scary brown woman is the problem.

This is the typical double standard that non-whites and women (especially of color) have to face in America.

It's the typical GOP whataboutism and gaslighting

where they attempt to flip the script and make themselves - and by proxy conservative White America - the true victims of BLM, of Antifa, of 'identity politics' etc.

So Dem politicians' support for young people protesting for justice becomes equated with the Insurrectionist-in-Chief inciting far right white nationalists to commit sedition ... ie the 'good people on both sides' distortion.

It's not going to work and will continue to drive young people, women and others to the Dem side.
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