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MSNBC just announce that AP has called it for HIllary.

Please CA and NJ still go out there and vote lets show everybody that Hillary wins big.

The narrative has now changed again to "it's rigged, because she started with 400 super delegates"

I have now seen or heard at least three posts which state that the primary contest was rigged because she started out with 400 super delegates before any votes were cast. This is just another way to try and de-legitimatize her wins. There are many answers to this the number one is that Obama was able to win, if it was rigged he wouldn't have been able to win. Seems to me they are forgetting that the super delegates always were a separate category so they would indeed follow the will of the voters. Just because they signaled their intentions to vote for Hillary does not preclude a Sanders supporter voting for Sanders. How does that equate to being rigged. In addition, during the first primaries SD's were not included until their own state voted.

I Just heard Tad Divine say

that Sanders started 350 delegates behind and has made up about 50 delegates since March. That can't be true because she gained delegates in New York and in the 5 East Coast Primary states anybody have the figures?

free publicity for Bernie thru Feingold

The week before the Wisconsin primary there was a democratic dinner in Madison. Both Hill and Bernie were asked to put in a good word for Russ Feingold who is running to regain his senate seat in Wisconsin. Bernie did not say anything about Feingold, while Hill gave him a recommendation. Feingold is getting some publicity for what he did in the Congo, and look now, it looks like Bernie has said he is going to do some fund raising. His timing seems to be right on to catch some free press.


WHEN Sanders was at that democratic dinner right before the Wisconsin primary both he and Clinton were asked to mention him. ONLY Clinton did. He didn't have to fund raise or anything just give him a little publicity. It's kind of funny, that, now, when Feingold is getting his own publicity that Sanders is all interested.

K n R

and here we are again circling right back to the beginning....

Now that the election fraud and conspiracy theories seem to be dying down (somewhat) from the Bernie Bros and Sanders himself has stopped implying malfeasance we come back to his assertion that the process is rigged because of super delegates. Which of course he needs to overturn the will of the voters, but somehow doesn't see the hypocrisy. So lets examine his claim that starting out HRC had an advantage because the super delegates were already in her corner. While he is right in saying that she had super delegates, what is forgotten was that by mid March after she won that pledged delegate lead, the news media started separating pledged delegates from super delegates in the total count. Furthermore, DWS told the media to stop counting super delegates. Any supposed advantage of knowing who the super delegates were supporting should have been clearly over shadowed by the her pledged lead. The media, however, kept on portraying that she was winning only because of the super delegates. It was not until HRC was interrupted by the Bernie bros in her event when she said she was ahead in votes that the media started portraying the true situation, that Hillary was ahead in pledged delegates, and that it had been fairly early in the primary process when she developed that pledge delegate lead. Where was this rigging, then.

Arizona isn't the only state with GOP disenfranchisement; where are the bros on Wisconsin

When the Bernie Bros spout out there conspiracy theories about the states that have voter fraud or voter trouble they don't even mention Wisconsin, perhaps because it doesn't fit into their narrative, as Bernie won this state. But Wisconsin has one of the most brutal GOP disenfranchising laws that there is. But as of yesterday, we are very close to overturning those laws.


In a article in progressive magazine reveals that Judge Posner one of the judges in the case regrets his decision in 2007. Thanks to some dramatic testimony from Todd Allbaugh a former intern in Walkers office who said Walker and his repugs were "giddy" at disenfranchising voters. You might have seen this publicized on MSNBC on hardball and in The New York Times so kudos to those organizations for their reporting.

Whenever I feel afraid I whistle a happy tune

There have been several threads lately questioning Barbara Boxer's statement that she had been afraid in Nevada. In particular, CU of TYT has put out a video of Boxer's defiant exit from the stage, and said she flipped the bird. Someone needs to tell Cenk that yes standing up to being bullied is a response to fear.

Actually Chris Matthews seemed quite enthused about Bernie, at first.

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